Elwood
24 Mar 2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by champmanager
I train scoring too, but how do you decide when to sell someone off? If seems like the prices jump dramatically as they go beyond excellent (I've only got one formidable striker now, but shall soon have four I think). Should I sell all but two of the formidables when they become so and buy passable or solid youngsters to train?
Another question: I've also got two youngish (21-23) formidable playmakers who aren't great passers. Would in make sense to switch to passing, since I can have four midfielders and five strikers improve?
My training theory is a bit different than that of many, so take the following with a grain of salt.
I train scoring, not primarily for amazing offense (just check my wing attacks for proof), but to train scoring. I chose it simply because I promoted 2 good scoring youths in October of 2001. I play 3-4-3 to train as many forwards as possible.
I've also played by the rule that of midfield, defense and attack, since I train scoring, my offense should be my WEAKEST spot. It gets better each week, and if I ever get in serious trouble, offensively, all I need to do is not sell trainees for a bit. But the only way to improve on defense or in the midfield is to purchase better players there.
The way I judge when to sell is if, after selling a player, my top 2 forwards (the target goal has been to get 2 forwards to keep when I switch back to 3-5-2) are still better than after selling my last player. I currently have only my 2nd brilliant trainee ever (and I'm keeping him after I switch), even though I've been training scoring since Oct of '01. I've also only ever sold 2 players, in total, that were outstanding or better. One was a 20 yr old I trained from passable, and the other was a 19 yr old magnificent (+4), I bought as a 17 yr solid, in week 1, who took just 1 training to go excellent. He was mag while still 18! But I sold him to improve my midfield (got a supernatural PM in exchange).
Basically I sell when selling a current non-trainee starter, plus my most recent leveler as a trainee will let me improve that non-trainee starter. So things like the following:
Say I have 3 formidable defenders, and I've decided I want to upgrade my CD to brilliant (that's a 2 level jump). I guage the sale price I'm likely to get, and then couple that income with gate receipts as well as the sale of a trainee. So maybe it takes 3 weeks revenue, the sale of the formidable defender, plus the sale of an excellent 17 yr old forward to get that brilliant defender. If that is the case, I sell at excellent.
Or say I have a formidable, an outstanding and a brilliant as inner mids. I want to replace that formidable with a magnificent. That jump is going to be a bit more, so maybe I train a youth to formidable to sell along with the current starter.
I've never really worried much about the actual skills, far ahead, of my forwards, until now. And that is because, shortly (if 20 weeks is "short"), I'm switching training, so I simply can't sell my 2 best guys. I know what level I want my 2 to be at when I stop, the other 4, I'll likely sell as I near that stopping point, and they level.
Hope that makes at least a little bit of sense.
Also, I would never recommend training passing. I know it supposedly goes up faster now than it used to, but it's still a secondary skill (though used by quite a few positions). I would think the best way to improve offense is to get proper trainees and train winger or scoring. Passing probably is ok, but to maximize training you need the guys to be as young as possible, and that's not easy to do all across the field (younger AND having decent skills).
I train scoring too, but how do you decide when to sell someone off? If seems like the prices jump dramatically as they go beyond excellent (I've only got one formidable striker now, but shall soon have four I think). Should I sell all but two of the formidables when they become so and buy passable or solid youngsters to train?
Another question: I've also got two youngish (21-23) formidable playmakers who aren't great passers. Would in make sense to switch to passing, since I can have four midfielders and five strikers improve?
My training theory is a bit different than that of many, so take the following with a grain of salt.
I train scoring, not primarily for amazing offense (just check my wing attacks for proof), but to train scoring. I chose it simply because I promoted 2 good scoring youths in October of 2001. I play 3-4-3 to train as many forwards as possible.
I've also played by the rule that of midfield, defense and attack, since I train scoring, my offense should be my WEAKEST spot. It gets better each week, and if I ever get in serious trouble, offensively, all I need to do is not sell trainees for a bit. But the only way to improve on defense or in the midfield is to purchase better players there.
The way I judge when to sell is if, after selling a player, my top 2 forwards (the target goal has been to get 2 forwards to keep when I switch back to 3-5-2) are still better than after selling my last player. I currently have only my 2nd brilliant trainee ever (and I'm keeping him after I switch), even though I've been training scoring since Oct of '01. I've also only ever sold 2 players, in total, that were outstanding or better. One was a 20 yr old I trained from passable, and the other was a 19 yr old magnificent (+4), I bought as a 17 yr solid, in week 1, who took just 1 training to go excellent. He was mag while still 18! But I sold him to improve my midfield (got a supernatural PM in exchange).
Basically I sell when selling a current non-trainee starter, plus my most recent leveler as a trainee will let me improve that non-trainee starter. So things like the following:
Say I have 3 formidable defenders, and I've decided I want to upgrade my CD to brilliant (that's a 2 level jump). I guage the sale price I'm likely to get, and then couple that income with gate receipts as well as the sale of a trainee. So maybe it takes 3 weeks revenue, the sale of the formidable defender, plus the sale of an excellent 17 yr old forward to get that brilliant defender. If that is the case, I sell at excellent.
Or say I have a formidable, an outstanding and a brilliant as inner mids. I want to replace that formidable with a magnificent. That jump is going to be a bit more, so maybe I train a youth to formidable to sell along with the current starter.
I've never really worried much about the actual skills, far ahead, of my forwards, until now. And that is because, shortly (if 20 weeks is "short"), I'm switching training, so I simply can't sell my 2 best guys. I know what level I want my 2 to be at when I stop, the other 4, I'll likely sell as I near that stopping point, and they level.
Hope that makes at least a little bit of sense.
Also, I would never recommend training passing. I know it supposedly goes up faster now than it used to, but it's still a secondary skill (though used by quite a few positions). I would think the best way to improve offense is to get proper trainees and train winger or scoring. Passing probably is ok, but to maximize training you need the guys to be as young as possible, and that's not easy to do all across the field (younger AND having decent skills).