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phillips10
31 Dec 2003, 09:09 AM
question for hattrick players...
I have an inad coach with inad leadership and outstanding experience...
I want to get a passable or even solid coach. How much will that cost?...and how much stock do I put in leadership?
Craig P
31 Dec 2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Spiro_In_San_Jose
I have been playing with a 4-3-3 and have upped my experience with it to passable, so that is a plus.Why did you decide to play a 4-3-3? It can work, but you'll be sacrificing both wing attacks as well as the wing contribution to midfield, so I tend to think that there are better formations to choose. Personally, I'd prefer unbalanced 4-4-2 as a four back set or 3-4-3 as a three back set.
Originally posted by phillips10
I have an inad coach with inad leadership and outstanding experience...
I want to get a passable or even solid coach. How much will that cost?...and how much stock do I put in leadership?I believe Hattrix files has a table of coach prices. A passable coach with poor leadership costs $80 000. I wouldn't spend the money to get higher leadership in a passable coach, and I plan on using an internal recruit (if I can) to produce a solid coach with better leadership.
Coaching leadership is fairly important to team spirit management, but it's not critical and a young, low-division team is unlikely to be able to afford good coaching leadership without sacrificing training ability. Since training ability is more important to long-term success, training ability wins out.
Chris Caron
31 Dec 2003, 10:42 AM
Leadership should be considered secondary to his coaching skill. You can get away with inadequate leadership or weak at that and go with a better trainer. If you have a clown on your club then leadership of your head coach is even less important...but still don't get a coach with less than weak or inadequate leadership.
Unfortunately I got an Inadequate Coach with Solid Leadership...means my training will be less effective over the course of his career...maybe 3 or 4 seasons...if I keep him than if I had paid nearly the same money for a solid trainer with inadequate leadership.
Leadership will fall each season that you have a coach, but his training ability won't begin to fall until his leadership reaches disastrous (or maybe poor).
phillips10
31 Dec 2003, 11:04 AM
thanks guys, I have checked out those hattrix files.
I have a semi-clown (symp/solid leader)...so would he be able to balance the TS if I go with a solid coach/poor leader....I see those cost around 270K??..
kopiteinkc
31 Dec 2003, 12:27 PM
For the first time ever today, my bank balance hit $1 million!!
I am trying to hold back from blowing it all at once and resisting the urge to spend it before the end of the season.
Maybe if I don't log in every 10 miutes to look at the transfer market that would help!! :D
Happy New Year to all the hattrick fanatics.
greatscott
31 Dec 2003, 12:53 PM
just picked up a 17 yo passable striker with passable stamina. good stuff. got him cheap too
Spiro_In_San_Jose
01 Jan 2004, 12:10 AM
How would I be able to change the formation my squad plays?
greatscott
01 Jan 2004, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by Spiro_In_San_Jose
How would I be able to change the formation my squad plays?
where you assign player positions, you should be able to select from a scroll bar : extra center midfield or extra forward or extra defender whatever
AAGunner3
01 Jan 2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Spiro_In_San_Jose
How would I be able to change the formation my squad plays?
General rule of thumb is to keep the number of repositionings to a minimum. Keep in mind that when you reposition a player, you can't give them individual instructions like 'Offensive' or 'Toward the Wing'.
Symmetric 3-4-3
Use the pull down menu to make a CD an extra Forward (For assymetric, you can make a WingBack the Forward and leave your wingback area relatively exposed.)
Symmetric 3-5-2
I typically reassign a CD as an extra Inner Midfielder
Symmetric 5-4-1
Reassign a forward as an extra CD
Symmetric 4-5-1
Reassing a forward as an extra Inner Mid.
That's enough to get you started. There are more complex variations but for now, just keep it simple so that you don't ruin your training program. A lot of this info is posted on sites that you can search for on the internet.
AAGunner3
01 Jan 2004, 12:44 PM
Well my opponent's starting strikers were too much for my 'poor form' or 'B-team' defense. Lost 4-2. I pressed though to see what would happen, I won possession. Good stamina paid off. He just ended up putting his chances in the net, while I could only finish off 2 of mine.
In my week 7 league turnaround game against the #2 team, it will be interesting to see if he makes any changes. Wonder if he PIC'd my game or if he was low on spirit when I hosted him. I wonder how different the match this week at his place will be.
By defeating the #2 team last week, I moved into a 3 way tie (but last due to goal differential) for 2nd. The #3 team is bound to lose again to the #1 this week and if I can beat the #2 again, I'll have sole possession of #2 for a moment. Right where I expected to be.
My new coach should help maintain my good Team Spirit for this match so that I can cruise past the weaker teams that follow this match.
My youth pull sold. I was worried that my minimum bid might have been too high, but got a solitary early bid with two days left in bidding. Then a last minute bid to purchase my player. Nice $ in the bank, especially after having to acquire a new coach.
kopiteinkc
01 Jan 2004, 02:32 PM
My youth pull sold for $111,000 which is more than I expected.
My bank manager is very happy with me now.
I was able to pull off a 5-0 friendly win over Jun-Jun. got a nice four stars from my top IM player who I rested on the weekend in my walkover match. He needed to play to get more training.
I am in a div iv, v and vi cup (a different one from some other posters on here) and I am playing a div vi team away next week.
As I have a walkover again this Sunday I can field a strong team in this cup and have an assured friendly/cup match the following week.
Spiro_In_San_Jose
01 Jan 2004, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by AAGunner3
General rule of thumb is to keep the number of repositionings to a minimum. Keep in mind that when you reposition a player, you can't give them individual instructions like 'Offensive' or 'Toward the Wing'.
Symmetric 3-4-3
Use the pull down menu to make a CD an extra Forward (For assymetric, you can make a WingBack the Forward and leave your wingback area relatively exposed.)
Symmetric 3-5-2
I typically reassign a CD as an extra Inner Midfielder
Symmetric 5-4-1
Reassign a forward as an extra CD
Symmetric 4-5-1
Reassing a forward as an extra Inner Mid.
That's enough to get you started. There are more complex variations but for now, just keep it simple so that you don't ruin your training program. A lot of this info is posted on sites that you can search for on the internet.
Thanks very much.
kuhnscoot
01 Jan 2004, 04:25 PM
Well my cup game went about the way I expected, I expected to lose, the thing was though, I was expecting to get shut out, cause this guy has an awesome defense and a passable midfield, but I was leading for most of the game before giving up three late goals to fall 3-1. Next week I have a home game, but I have to switch players around cause I have four guys that are injured right now on my team and it's going to be hard to field a full B-side like I would hope to. The team I play is near the bottom of his table but it also seems to have a decent defense but absolutly no attack, poor at best. They lost their first game as well, 2-0, away.
This week I have the away leg against the team I played last week, who I beat easily at home, so I'm looking towards another good win for the club. It won't push me up though, unless one of the other teams fall against teams in the bottom half of the league. Oh well after this week I got the other teams in the top four, and I figure I'll MOTS one of them probably the last against those three so that I can hopefully pull more points out of it. Two of those games are also at home so I can hope for a good result.
Spiro_In_San_Jose
01 Jan 2004, 04:26 PM
Since I am new to Hattrick I have many questions. Something that I am quite unsure about still is the way the series are named. If I am #3 in VI.42 in the USA is that good? Does that mean division six, league forty-two? Please help! A better explanation would be wonderful. Also, what about someone who is #2 in V.8. How are they doing?
Spiro_In_San_Jose
01 Jan 2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by kuhnscoot
This week I have the away leg against the team I played last week, who I beat easily at home, so I'm looking towards another good win for the club. It won't push me up though, unless one of the other teams fall against teams in the bottom half of the league. Oh well after this week I got the other teams in the top four, and I figure I'll MOTS one of them probably the last against those three so that I can hopefully pull more points out of it. Two of those games are also at home so I can hope for a good result.
I MOTS the match I played against the number one team in my group last week. It worked out well and I mustered a 0-0 tie against him. I play him this week again but I have to play it cool so that my players' spirit can go down from furious. I hope that they play well and playing it cool does not have an affect on the turnout.
AAGunner3
01 Jan 2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Spiro_In_San_Jose
Since I am new to Hattrick I have many questions. Something that I am quite unsure about still is the way the series are named. If I am #3 in VI.42 in the USA is that good? Does that mean division six, league forty-two? Please help! A better explanation would be wonderful. Also, what about someone who is #2 in V.8. How are they doing?
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I MOTS the match I played against the number one team in my group last week. It worked out well and I mustered a 0-0 tie against him. I play him this week again but I have to play it cool so that my players' spirit can go down from furious. I hope that they play well and playing it cool does not have an affect on the turnout
Division I is the equivalent of MLS or Premier League. You want to advance to be the best teams in your nation/the world. Within each division (there are six in the US) the teams are broken up into 8 team series. Think of Division I as the top of the pyramid with the fewst teams. Division VI is at the bottom with the most teams. Each series within a division is assigned a number. Mine, in Division V, is #188. Being in series #188 of Div V is no better or worse than being in #1 of Div V. Generally speaking, Division I teams are the best and Division VI teams are the worst. You at #3 in Division VI is not so good. You want/need to advance out of this 'cellar' of robot teams and start competing against humans, or you should.
PIC doesn't affect your fan's turnout. Just the way your team approaches the game. Good Luck!
GenghisKahn
Mongrel FC 221913
USA V.188 - currently in 4th place
Craig P
01 Jan 2004, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by AAGunner3
Symmetric 3-4-3
Use the pull down menu to make a CD an extra Forward (For assymetric, you can make a WingBack the Forward and leave your wingback area relatively exposed.)I would recommend abandoning a wing (not a wingback) to make the assymetric formation, i.e. one CD positioned as extra IM and one winger positioned as extra forward.
I would NOT recommend playing a symmetric four-midfielder formation. You're unlikely to have the players to pull it off, and midfield is still too important in this game to concede possession.
#3 in VI isn't great, but it's not all that bad either, especially when you consider that as a new team, you inherited the team's position when it was under incompetent bot nonmanagement. Really, though, if you know what you're doing you shouldn't be worse than second in a series in VI and most of the time you should win the series.
junjunforever
02 Jan 2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by kopiteinkc
I was able to pull off a 5-0 friendly win over Jun-Jun. got a nice four stars from my top IM player who I rested on the weekend in my walkover match. He needed to play to get more training.
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the friendly was awesome. i've never gotten $7000 income for a friendly before. how many supporters do u have? my injured guy was only out for one week too. one bad thing was my new solid midfield trainee only mustered two stars.
u killed me this time. did u use some starter or something?
kopiteinkc
02 Jan 2004, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by junjunforever
the friendly was awesome. i've never gotten $7000 income for a friendly before. how many supporters do u have? my injured guy was only out for one week too. one bad thing was my new solid midfield trainee only mustered two stars.
u killed me this time. did u use some starter or something?
I have 1,600 supporters and a 55,000 stadium.
I did start my best inner mid (regularly gets 4 stars) and one of my starting forwards.
I had rested them in my previous league match so they needed to play to keep their form and training up.
Chris Caron
02 Jan 2004, 10:39 PM
Also when you look at a series number a Series V.1 is not necessarily better than a V.100...how strong a series in has more to do with the competitors in it than anything with the series number.
Generally series that beat up a lot on the number 7 and 8 teams and denied them points will get a club or two autopromoted into their division and a club or two autorelegated...in theory. So the best lower clubs and the worst clubs from the higher division join a series.
BTW you can only get promoted (automatically or through a playoff) by finishing first.