Shoes or Boots? Field or Pitch? Zero-zero or nil-nil? Etc.

[Sachin]

Originally posted by superdave

You meant "lose an accent." Southerners don't have accents.

Word!

Sachin

[DAKCrew]

Originally posted by Own Goal Hat-Trick
wow, people actually care about this...

does it REALLY matter if you say cleats or boots or even shoes or kit or shirt or stripe or jersey or nil or zero or nothing or zilch or pitch or field or team or side or mannschaft or supporters or fans or stadium or ground or football or soccer or futbol or fotbol or fussball or calcio.

and all of you who say americans shouldnt say the "english" words, do you say "pub"? ever? do you ever go out for a pint? is there anything wrong with saying either? how about going down to the bar for a pint, or down to the pub for a cold one? you could not give a toss, or, equally, you just couldnt give a ************.

why should anyone force themselves to have a strict closed minded vocabulary that is geocentric. if you know the terms, and you know what they mean, why not use them? whats wrong with having an expanded vocabulary like that.

Amen

[retnicf]

If you're a fan (supporter?) of this thread, then you're gonna love this recent exchange on the Metro boards....

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8761

[MarioKempes]

bloody American wankers! :D

[GoDC]

Originally posted by Own Goal Hat-Trick
wow, people actually care about this...

does it REALLY matter if you say cleats or boots or even shoes or kit or shirt or stripe or jersey or nil or zero or nothing or zilch or pitch or field or team or side or mannschaft or supporters or fans or stadium or ground or football or soccer or futbol or fotbol or fussball or calcio.

and all of you who say americans shouldnt say the "english" words, do you say "pub"? ever? do you ever go out for a pint? is there anything wrong with saying either? how about going down to the bar for a pint, or down to the pub for a cold one? you could not give a toss, or, equally, you just couldnt give a ************.

why should anyone force themselves to have a strict closed minded vocabulary that is geocentric. if you know the terms, and you know what they mean, why not use them? whats wrong with having an expanded vocabulary like that.

Because we are Americans. We are better than everyone else and we should not try to imitate them. I have never said Pub unless the establishment was named that. I have never had a pint, just a beer. What do I know if the glass holds a pint or a bit more or less??

[Motterman]

Originally posted by retnicf
If you're a fan (supporter?) of this thread, then you're gonna love this recent exchange on the Metro boards....

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8761

I'm going to go kick a dog now.

[Motterman]

Originally posted by GoDC


Because we are Americans. We are better than everyone else and we should not try to imitate them. I have never said Pub unless the establishment was named that. I have never had a pint, just a beer. What do I know if the glass holds a pint or a bit more or less??

Yeah, since we speak American after all, don't we?

;)

[QPR Kevin H]

Originally posted by GoDC
Because we are Americans. We are better than everyone else and we should not try to imitate them.
YEAH! Well said Hacksaw Jim Duggin! What do the English now about drinking? After all, they are part of the Axis of Evil - huh Dubya?

LETS ROLL!!!!!!

[dcaddick]

Originally posted by QPR Kevin H

YEAH! Well said Hacksaw Jim Duggin! What do the English now about drinking? After all, they are part of the Axis of Evil - huh Dubya?

LETS ROLL!!!!!!

Eurosnob Strikeforce!!!

I'll have pint, mate...bloody hell, God Save The Queen.

[GoDC]

Originally posted by Motterman


Yeah, since we speak American after all, don't we?

;)

I know that I do!!

[monster]

OK, time for this to go to The Beautiful Game forum.

[QPR Kevin H]

Originally posted by dcaddick


Eurosnob Strikeforce!!!

I'll have pint, mate...bloody hell, God Save The Queen.
Remember, when we go over to London this autumn...oops I mean fall - if the bartender asks what we'd like....we want a BEER. In a glass. If they ask full or half pint, tell them we dont know what that means - WE'RE AMERICAN AND WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST GODDAMN COUNTRY ON EARTH. Just pour it in a glass, or better yet - just put my enormous cowboy hat under the tap.

[kenntomasch]

You're only an American if you can speak Apache. :)

[capt. america]

i fell in love with the game while living in england after college. i discussed it constantly with english guys in the pub that i worked, therefore, i always used football, nil, kit, and boots.

i generally use football if i'm talking to friends of mine who are european or are american and follow the game, however, i don't really care what you call it. when in england, i would always adjust my speak to their slang, as to not sound ignorant to them. i've also found that most of the english guys show the same courtesy.

[dcaddick]

Originally posted by QPR Kevin H

Remember, when we go over to London this autumn...oops I mean fall - if the bartender asks what we'd like....we want a BEER. In a glass. If they ask full or half pint, tell them we dont know what that means - WE'RE AMERICAN AND WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST GODDAMN COUNTRY ON EARTH. Just pour it in a glass, or better yet - just put my enormous cowboy hat under the tap.

I'll be sure to tell them the greatness that is the Yankees and Man U while waering my brand new Rambo bandana. After I have my BEER, I would like to talk about soccer with the "locals."

I can't wait!

Beautiful game!

[RichardL]

Originally posted by QPR Kevin H

Remember, when we go over to London this autumn...oops I mean fall - if the bartender asks what we'd like....we want a BEER. In a glass. If they ask full or half pint, tell them we dont know what that means - WE'RE AMERICAN AND WE LIVE IN THE GREATEST GODDAMN COUNTRY ON EARTH. Just pour it in a glass, or better yet - just put my enormous cowboy hat under the tap.

Ask for a beer and you'll probably get served bitter, which is rather different to Budweiser (you can ask for a replacement due to it not being fizzy if you want but I wouldn't recommend it). If you tell him you don't know what a pint is you'll find you are paying full price but for some reason drinking out a glass that only seems half the size of everyone else's. Also, if you tip the bartender, or barman as they are called over here, he will probably think you are gay and trying to pull him.

All gone pear shaped. Nothing at all to do with football, just means it's all gone wrong.
At 6s & 7s. Again, nothing to do with football, it just means basically in a state of confusion.

Personally I think "are" for a team is grammatically correct as a team are a group of people, not a single entity.

There's not much of a difference between fan & supporter over here. Nobody would say "rooting" though. Mind you, in Australia saying you root passionately for a team would get you some very puzzled looks as over there "rooting" is slang for having sex (hence the "joke" koala t-shirts with the slogan "eat roots shoots and leaves" which is more of a reference to the wearer's supposed dating style than any cuddly animal's diet).

For draws, do Americans say "a one all draw" or "a one one" draw? (or a one each draw as some Scots say?)

For me the worst thing is seeing English person commentating on the NFL and talking about a team's DEfence.

[QPR Kevin H]

Originally posted by RichardL


Ask for a beer and you'll probably get served bitter, which is rather different to Budweiser (you can ask for a replacement due to it not being fizzy if you want but I wouldn't recommend it). If you tell him you don't know what a pint is you'll find you are paying full price but for some reason drinking out a glass that only seems half the size of everyone else's. Also, if you tip the bartender, or barman as they are called over here, he will probably think you are gay and trying to pull him.

For draws, do Americans say "a one all draw" or "a one one" draw? (or a one each draw as some Scots say?)
Thanks Richard - I was having a bit of a laugh. Thanks to not being hamstrung as an over-defensive American, I know my way around an English pub.

And here in the States - unless you are talking to someone that knows soccer - you wont hear the word "draw", people say "tie". As in, "The game ended in a 1-1 tie".

[bungadiri]

Originally posted by RichardL


Ask for a beer and you'll probably get served bitter, which is rather different to Budweiser (you can ask for a replacement due to it not being fizzy if you want but I wouldn't recommend it). If you tell him you don't know what a pint is you'll find you are paying full price but for some reason drinking out a glass that only seems half the size of everyone else's. Also, if you tip the bartender, or barman as they are called over here, he will probably think you are gay and trying to pull him.

All gone pear shaped. Nothing at all to do with football, just means it's all gone wrong.
At 6s & 7s. Again, nothing to do with football, it just means basically in a state of confusion.

Personally I think "are" for a team is grammatically correct as a team are a group of people, not a single entity.

There's not much of a difference between fan & supporter over here. Nobody would say "rooting" though. Mind you, in Australia saying you root passionately for a team would get you some very puzzled looks as over there "rooting" is slang for having sex (hence the "joke" koala t-shirts with the slogan "eat roots shoots and leaves" which is more of a reference to the wearer's supposed dating style than any cuddly animal's diet).

For draws, do Americans say "a one all draw" or "a one one" draw? (or a one each draw as some Scots say?)

For me the worst thing is seeing English person commentating on the NFL and talking about a team's DEfence.
Hello Richard--have missed seeing your posts.

I think (though anyone who's read this thread can tell you I've been wrong before) most Americans say "one-one tie" rather than either of the "draw" options you offer.

As for talking about NFL DEEfense, I find that upsetting as well, but that's because I watch the Lions.

[cpwilson80]

When I studied abroad in Italy, the kids there said that we spoke "American" and that the British spoke "English"...quite amusing.

If you want great slang, check out college football coaches and their post game interviews:

"Well we've got a great football team, and we were up against another really strong football team. But we've got some great football players on this team, who when you get down to it, make great football plays"

I love football and soccer, so let's not turn this into a bash session. Honestly, though: we watched the game and haven't forgotten the sport from the time the teams left the field

[QPR Kevin H]

Originally posted by cpwilson80
"Well we've got a great football team, and we were up against another really strong football team. But we've got some great football players on this team, who when you get down to it, make great football plays"
Sports player/coach cliches are fantastic all over the world. I love hearing the old school English gaffer after matches:

"Ah, you're not wrong there Des. I thought we had the lions share of possession, but we were desperately unlucky not to get a result. We can take some positives from the match, but at the end of the day its gotta be taken as two points lost - not one point gained. Im just gutted for the supporters really."