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benine
20 Aug 2002, 01:44 PM
So, i've noticed that more and more clubs are adding womens squads to their opperations. But, could any of these teams even hang with UNC's JV squad? All the clubs with womens squads seem to use them just to harp on how "commited to growing womens and girls football" they are, but is it all just a bunch of bs marketing crap? I mean, in sort of an odd reverse, if any of these women were half decent, wouldnt they be in NCAA ball?

RichardL
20 Aug 2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by benine
but is it all just a bunch of bs marketing crap?

that's probably about the size of it. It is all amateur with I think the exception of Fulham who are paying players. Fulham have won something like 50 games in a row since turning pro. You'd have to ask a lot of people before you found one who could name a single female player.

Maczebus
20 Aug 2002, 02:44 PM
Yep, you've got me stumped.

FearM9
20 Aug 2002, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by RichardL
You'd have to ask a lot of people before you found one who could name a single female player. Marianne Petterson plays for Fulham.

Angela Banks for Arsenal.

That's all I could name.

benine
20 Aug 2002, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by FearM9
Marianne Petterson plays for Fulham.

Angela Banks for Arsenal.

That's all I could name.


Yeah, each Arse male 1st teamer sponsors the corresponding position on the female squad...yes, the pay-for-your-hoe joke options are endless here, as well as the premises/dialog for David Seamens long overdue entry into the world of porn ("care for some pointers dealing with high balls?", etc...)

eric515
20 Aug 2002, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by benine



Yeah, each Arse male 1st teamer sponsors the corresponding position on the female squad...yes, the pay-for-your-hoe joke options are endless here, as well as the premises/dialog for David Seamens long overdue entry into the world of porn ("care for some pointers dealing with high balls?", etc...)

LOL...he does look like an in shape Ron Jeremy...I just love hearing Kelly Dalglish say his name on Sky Sports...it's always good for "Seaman" to be coming out of her mouth. :)

M
20 Aug 2002, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by benine
So, i've noticed that more and more clubs are adding womens squads to their opperations. But, could any of these teams even hang with UNC's JV squad? All the clubs with womens squads seem to use them just to harp on how "commited to growing womens and girls football" they are, but is it all just a bunch of bs marketing crap? I mean, in sort of an odd reverse, if any of these women were half decent, wouldnt they be in NCAA ball?

I think I read somewhere that women's football is the fastest growing sport in Britain. So although the standard is certainly far lower than the US right now, I suspect the gap will narrow as time goes on.

Elninho
20 Aug 2002, 05:08 PM
Fulham's been beaten exactly once since turning pro, by Arsenal in the 2001 Women's FA Cup final. They've won many of their games by double-digit scores - last season they scored 234 goals and allowed 6 in 22 league matches.

Fulham Ladies' full 2001/02 season results:

Ipswich Town 0:13 Fulham
Wimbledon 0:12 Fulham
Newport County 0:14 Fulham
Fulham 12:0 Millwall Lionesses (Women's League Cup prelim)
Fulham 9:1 Chelsea
Fulham 8:0 Leeds United (Women's League Cup 1st rd)
Berkhamsted Town 0:12 Fulham
Charlton Athletic 1:5 Fulham (Women's League Cup 2nd rd)
Bristol Rovers 1:6 Fulham
Queens Park Rangers 0:14 Fulham
Barnet 1:7 Fulham
Fulham 12:0 Ipswich Town
Fulham 12:0 Newport County (Women's FA Cup 3rd rd)
Fulham 9:1 Southampton (Women's League Cup 3rd rd)
Birmingham City 0:5 Fulham (Women's FA Cup 4th rd)
Fulham 9:0 Wimbledon
Fulham 9:1 Newport County
Fulham 2:1 Arsenal (Women's League Cup semifinal)
Coventry City 0:11 Fulham (Women's FA Cup 5th rd)
Everton 0:4 Fulham (Women's FA Cup quarterfinal)
Fulham 15:0 Berkhamsted Town
Fulham 22:0 Barking
Fulham 12:1 Bristol Rovers
Fulham 9:0 Millwall Lionesses
Fulham 18:0 Barnet
Fulham 4:1 Charlton Athletic (Women's FA Cup semifinal)
Barking 1:4 Fulham
Fulham 7:1 Birmingham City (Women's League Cup final)
Fulham 3:0 Queens Park Rangers
Millwall Lionesses 0:11 Fulham
Fulham 9:0 Langford
Chelsea 0:9 Fulham
Langford 0:5 Fulham
Doncaster Belles 1:2 Fulham (Women's FA Cup final)

That's 34 consecutive wins since the 2001 Women's FA Cup final, which was the last game of the 2000/01 season.

I think three teams in England would not embarrass themselves in the ACC: Fulham, Arsenal, and Doncaster Belles. Fulham could give UNC's varsity team a good game, and might even win on a good day.

Maczebus
20 Aug 2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by M


I think I read somewhere that women's football is the fastest growing sport in Britain. So although the standard is certainly far lower than the US right now, I suspect the gap will narrow as time goes on.

It may narrow, but it will never have the same coverage/adulation, that the US womens team does.

When you've got the choice of watching the male version of the sport in this country, I can't see the women getting much of a look in. Well that's what's happening now, and I can't see it changing.

MNAFETSC
21 Aug 2002, 01:33 AM
are all the national teamers on fulham?

Elninho
21 Aug 2002, 07:13 AM
Most of England's WNT is drawn from Fulham, Arsenal, and Doncaster Belles, with a few players from other clubs. Fulham also has Norwegian and Irish internationals.

RichardL
21 Aug 2002, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by M


I think I read somewhere that women's football is the fastest growing sport in Britain.

In England, I think every single sport that isn't football makes this claim. I am dubious that there is some national body that records the rate of growth for different sports. As somebody once said, 73.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Ian Lozada
21 Aug 2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by RichardL

As somebody once said, 73.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

You're just making that up. ;)

total_football
21 Aug 2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by RichardL


In England, I think every single sport that isn't football makes this claim. I am dubious that there is some national body that records the rate of growth for different sports. As somebody once said, 73.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Um, hate to break it to you, but aren't they playing...football?

I would imagine, ultimately, that women's football, if it takes off on a professional level, will ultimately surpass the game in the US in terms of stature and popularity, particularly in places such as England and Germany. After all, they already have the structure, facilities, and passion for the Beautiful Game. And, assuming that that the quality of play is at an acceptable level, what can be better than beautiful women playing the Beautiful Game?

kygunner
21 Aug 2002, 10:47 AM
If English womens football was able to stay with the UNC girls than I would suspect a better showing from the England squad at the Olympics and WC. I dont believe Ive ever seen England on ESPN and they broadcast a large number of Womens internationals.

MNAFETSC
21 Aug 2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by total_football


Um, hate to break it to you, but aren't they playing...football?

I would imagine, ultimately, that women's football, if it takes off on a professional level, will ultimately surpass the game in the US in terms of stature and popularity, particularly in places such as England and Germany. After all, they already have the structure, facilities, and passion for the Beautiful Game. And, assuming that that the quality of play is at an acceptable level, what can be better than beautiful women playing the Beautiful Game?

if this was true the last world cup would have been in england with wembley stadium packed watching germany v england

no one really cares about womens soccer there
i remember watching highlight of a tourney the us was in at germany and the terraces were empty besides a few people behing the goals

benine
21 Aug 2002, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by total_football




I would imagine, ultimately, that women's football, if it takes off on a professional level, will ultimately surpass the game in the US in terms of stature and popularity, particularly in places such as England and Germany. After all, they already have the structure, facilities, and passion for the Beautiful Game. And, assuming that that the quality of play is at an acceptable level, what can be better than beautiful women playing the Beautiful Game?


beautiful women...ha...take a look at the Fulham squad. Chadwick or Ferrer could take any three of those girls home a night.

kygunner
21 Aug 2002, 02:23 PM
Emma Byrne, the Arsenal GK, is absolutely hot! Lesbian but hot. 1 out of a thousand aint bad.

Wizardscharter
22 Aug 2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by benine
So, i've noticed that more and more clubs are adding womens squads to their opperations. But, could any of these teams even hang with UNC's JV squad? All the clubs with womens squads seem to use them just to harp on how "commited to growing womens and girls football" they are, but is it all just a bunch of bs marketing crap? I mean, in sort of an odd reverse, if any of these women were half decent, wouldnt they be in NCAA ball?

A loose basis for comparison:
U of Nebraska-Lincoln is on tour in England right now. They have played two games so far, beating Millwall 5-1, and losing to Arsenal 1-0. Taking it further, NU is annually in the Final 16 (they keep losing to Notre Dame), is currently ranked #10 in the pre-season poll, and did beat #2 UN-C in the preseason (in Lincoln).

Brownswan
22 Aug 2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by maczebus


It may narrow, but it will never have the same coverage/adulation, that the US womens team does.



You must be thinking of the WNBA. Your combo of "coverage/adulation" doesn't apply to US soccer in any way, shape or form -- Brandi's bra, excepted.