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Maczebus
07 Sep 2002, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by GoHawks4
Well for a Keeper, sweat in the eyes is a big deal, and wiping your face with your gloves will detereorate the grip of your gloves. I would allow it.
Actually, if you got decent gloves, the moisture will make the gloves work better (ie 'stickier'). That's why you often see keepers spitting into their gloves just before a set piece (corner/free-kick etc).
And not sure if it's just in the US which the headband question is pertaining to, but I can't see them being 'illegal' within the game.
I remember a Wimbledon(uk leagues) player of a few years ago (90's) wearing one. Can't, for the life of me remember his name (defender - possibly, black with an interestingly brown head band) - maybe Eric something.
Jeff L
07 Sep 2002, 05:29 AM
Yes you are right about the Wimbledon player but I too can't remember his name! Right on all other counts though.
deejay
07 Sep 2002, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Greyhnd00
Once again the NFHS comes up with another brilliant idea.... :)..........What about KY?
Very neccesary if you are wearing a condom. :)
lanman
07 Sep 2002, 06:17 PM
maczebus, you are thinking of the great Eric Young.
GoHawks4
07 Sep 2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by maczebus
Actually, if you got decent gloves, the moisture will make the gloves work better (ie 'stickier'). That's why you often see keepers spitting into their gloves just before a set piece (corner/free-kick etc).
These are my gloves, the Nike Talon Curve Premier:
http://www.goalkeeper.com/Store/Images/talon_curve_premiere.jpg
I don't know what you conisder to be decent gloves. I love them, maybe it's just a mental thing but the fingers don't seem to grip as well.
Maczebus
07 Sep 2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by GoHawks4
I don't know what you conisder to be decent gloves. I love them, maybe it's just a mental thing but the fingers don't seem to grip as well.
I'm sure they're fine gloves.
I think it's the amount of moisture we're talking about. If it's monsoon weather, then yes, the extra moisture will make the gloves/ball slippy. But if it's a dry day then a little extra moisture from spit or sweat will help the gloves a little.
And yes Ian, thanks, that's the chap I was thinking of.
And reminds me of the point I was going to make...
If headbands aren't 'illegal' within the game (as proved by the fact Eric Young wore one in top level English football), then why don't people wear them?
I think we must come to the conclusion, that it's not a great idea.
lanman
07 Sep 2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by maczebus
And yes Ian, thanks, that's the chap I was thinking of.
And reminds me of the point I was going to make...
If headbands aren't 'illegal' within the game (as proved by the fact Eric Young wore one in top level English football), then why don't people wear them?
I think we must come to the conclusion, that it's not a great idea.
Probably because most of today's footballers are incredibly image conscious, and headbands make you look like a complete tit. Still, if Beckham were to wear one, I would guarantee that headband useage would reach an all time high.
GoHawks4
07 Sep 2002, 07:49 PM
Fair enough.
jkc313
08 Sep 2002, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Greyhnd00
The sweatband seems to be increasing in popularity........again. While I think it looks like a BAD throwback to the 1970s I cant see why the kids cant wear them if they want to.
While I agree with you, then why can't girls wear matching bandanas? Which is NOT allowed by USSF simply because it's not part of the uniform. That's to say, it's not a safety issue. Kind of like the illogic in not allowing referees to wear hats.
jkc313
08 Sep 2002, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by jc508
I believe that USSF issued a position paper several years ago that said that elastic sweatbands were permitted.
The paper's main concern was the wearing of bandanas, which were forbidden. The concern was that the wearing of certain colors in certain areas posed a real danger for that player if the wrong color was worn (e.g. wearing crips colors in bloods' territory).
We were told recently by both the state and ussf that bandanas were forbidden (we don't have a gang problem in Ga) simply because they are not a part of the uniform. Nothing to do with safety
Jerlon
08 Sep 2002, 08:18 PM
In New York State wecan wear sweatbands (although occasionally refs will have problems with it, the same refs who have massive problems with which arm captains band goes on, or leg for that matter) but the Adidas logo would be too big and it would be seen as promoting and it would have to have tape over it. I think the biggest a logo can be is an inch-1/2 inch, or something of the sorts.
Omahacrew
08 Sep 2002, 09:24 PM
I have several girls on my team who wear them all the time for last two years with a variety of refs, they have never said anything. The one wear the adidas one shown with no problems.
You know, if the headbands or kerchiefs stayed on the head, then there would be no problem. The safety issue occurs when the player loses the cloth loop on the ground. Now it is a dangerous item with the potential to ensnare a foot or two.
There are many examples of items worn at the professional/international level that we would prohibit in a youth match. These young players are not professionals. The question that we (referees) must ask is not, "What is the harm of this item?" The question we should be able to answer with a high degree of certainty is, "Can any harm come of the presence of this item?"
Wrist bands: Just ask Danny Ainge (pro baskerball player who broke his fingers when they got caught in another player's wrist band).
Hats, scarfs, sweatbands: Above lasso example.
Remeber to always err on the side of safety when doing youth games.
I don't give a ************ which arm or leg has the captain's arm band, but it damn well does not belong on the wrist. ;)
Greyhnd00
08 Sep 2002, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by nsa
You know, if the headbands or kerchiefs stayed on the head, then there would be no problem. The safety issue occurs when the player loses the cloth loop on the ground. Now it is a dangerous item with the potential to ensnare a foot or two.
There are many examples of items worn at the professional/international level that we would prohibit in a youth match. These young players are not professionals. The question that we (referees) must ask is not, "What is the harm of this item?" The question we should be able to answer with a high degree of certainty is, "Can any harm come of the presence of this item?"
Wrist bands: Just ask Danny Ainge (pro baskerball player who broke his fingers when they got caught in another player's wrist band).
Hats, scarfs, sweatbands: Above lasso example.
Remeber to always err on the side of safety when doing youth games.
I don't give a ************ which arm or leg has the captain's arm band, but it damn well does not belong on the wrist. ;) I guess if they just kept thier hands off of thier opponants wrists and forehead this wouldnt be an issue! :)
Andyrey
09 Sep 2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by nsa
You know, if the headbands or kerchiefs stayed on the head, then there would be no problem.
The problem with a kerchief is that it has to be knoted, and the knot represents a hazard for the player if the ball were to hit him/her on the knot.