Champions League TV info - Dec 9-10, 2008

[socceraction]

Not listed yet:
- ESPNDeportes delayed games.
- Setanta Canada delayed games.
- espn360.com

Will repost with update when available. All times US Central (Chicago) -


Champions League - Tuesday, 9 December

1:45pm Chelsea - Cluj
..............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN
..............DELAYED: TSN2 (4:30pm)

1:45pm PSV Eindhoven - Liverpool
..............LIVE: Setanta USA/Canada
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (8:15pm + 8:15am/next day)

1:45pm Werder Bremen - Inter Milan
..............LIVE: ESPN Deportes + TSN2
..............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm)

1:45pm AS Roma - Bordeaux
..............LIVE: TLN/Canada
..............DELAYED: TSN (11:30am/next day) + TSN (3:45pm/next day)

1:45pm FC Basel - Sporting Lisbon
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (6:30pm + 6:15am/next day)

1:45pm Barcelona - Shakhtar Donetsk
..............LIVE: TBA*
..............DELAYED: TSN (11:00pm) + TSN2 (2:00am)

1:45pm Marseille - Atletico de Madrid
..............LIVE: TBA
..............DELAYED: TBA

1:45pm Panathinaikos - Anorthosis
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (4:45pm + 10:00pm)

(* - A chance ESPN Deportes picks this up instead of Bremen - Inter)



Champions League - Wednesday, 10 December

1:45pm Manchester United - Aalborg
..............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN
..............DELAYED: TSN2 (5:30pm) + Setanta USA (6:30am/Friday)

1:45pm FC Porto - Arsenal
..............LIVE: Setanta USA/Canada
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (8:15pm + 1:00am/Friday + 11:45am/Friday) + TSN (11:00pm) + TSN2 (2:00am/next day)

1:45pm Real Madrid - Zenit St. Petersburg
..............LIVE: ESPN Deportes + TLN/Canada + TSN2
..............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm)

1:45pm Celtic - Villarreal
..............LIVE: TBA (Setanta Premium?)
..............DELAYED: TBA

1:45pm Lyon - Bayern Munich
..............LIVE: TBA
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (6:30pm + 8:15am/next day) + TSN (11:30am/next day) + TSN2 (2:30pm/next day)

1:45pm Dinamo Kiev - Fenerbahce
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (4:45pm + 10:00pm)

1:45pm Steaua Bucharest - Fiorentina
..............LIVE: TBA
..............DELAYED: TBA

1:45pm Juventus - FC BATE Borisov
..............LIVE: TBA
..............DELAYED: TBA

SA

[danielmak]

I know everyone has something to say when their favorite team is not scheduled to air, but I am blown away that the Roma-Bordeaux game is not being shown on Setanta or ESPN Deportes when first place in the group is up for grabs. How is Basel-Sporting a more attractive game when absolutely nothing is at stake in this game as far as the CL is concerned. This goes back to Setanta's focus on Portugese teams, which makes no sense given the fact that there is enough quality in the sides to usually make it out of the group but rarely enough to make it past the next round in recent years (minus the Porto's winning side a few years back). I might be missing something in terms of immigrant demographics in the US but I don't get the sense that the quantity of Portugese immigrants (and Portugese football-watching immigrants) is greater than the quantity of French and/or Italian football-watching immigrants.

EDIT: Just noticed SA's note about ESPN Deportes delayed games. I hope this one falls into that category. Either way, the comment still stands re: Setanta's picks.

[BocaFan]

I know everyone has something to say when their favorite team is not scheduled to air, but I am blown away that the Roma-Bordeaux game is not being shown on Setanta or ESPN Deportes when first place in the group is up for grabs.

Actually you're under-selling that match. Qualification to the next round is up for grabs when Bordeaux travel to Rome. Not just first place in the group (which is pretty meaningless).

Oh well, clearly the importance of the match is not considered when these games are picked or else Panathinaikos v Anorthosis would be shown live instead of the PSV v Liverpool snorefest.

[DAGSports]

I guess Setanta does have sales evidence that they can do well with Portuguese teams, in both the domestic league and Europe (ESPN also has U.S. internet rights to the league).

Beyond that, yeah, it is mostly based on ratings (plus PPV sales for Celtic/Rangers games not against the EPL teams, which I think Setanta probably makes a deal with ESPN to lock up).

[huhe888]

I know everyone has something to say when their favorite team is not scheduled to air, but I am blown away that the Roma-Bordeaux game is not being shown on Setanta or ESPN Deportes when first place in the group is up for grabs.

If you want Roma-Bordeaux, you can watch it live at UEFA.com. $7.95 pay-per-view.



How is Basel-Sporting a more attractive game when absolutely nothing is at stake in this game as far as the CL is concerned. This goes back to Setanta's focus on Portugese teams, which makes no sense given the fact that there is enough quality in the sides to usually make it out of the group but rarely enough to make it past the next round in recent years (minus the Porto's winning side a few years back). I might be missing something in terms of immigrant demographics in the US but I don't get the sense that the quantity of Portugese immigrants (and Portugese football-watching immigrants) is greater than the quantity of French and/or Italian football-watching immigrants.

Setanta actively sells subscriptions to Portugese restaurants and clubs in the U.S. and Canada, but does NOT have a similar business covering Italian or Afro-French communities in the U.S. and Canada.

FYI: Italian immigrants as a group don't do much business with Setanta, while French League teams tends to attract mostly French-speaking immigrants from Africa. The French-speaking natives in Quebec are mostly ice hockey fans (Montreal Canadiens 24/7/365) and don't care about French Ligue 1.

[danielmak]

If you want Roma-Bordeaux, you can watch it live at UEFA.com. $7.95 pay-per-view.

I am already paying a small fortune for Setanta, En Espanol, and the sports pack on DirecTV so PPV is not an option for me. I can just get a DVD via ftp from another collector, so the issue is more about seeing games that matter rather than seeing my favorite team. In this case, seeing a game that matters in terms of moving onto the next round and seeing my favorite team is one and the same. If Roma had already qualified or been eliminated then I wouldn't say anything about the game not being shown in the US because I think the networks will (A) show games that garner more viewers (EPL sides) and then (B) show the games that matter relative to advancing to the next round. In this case, Sporting-Basel fits neither of those criteria. Take care.

[Drake44444]

I know everyone has something to say when their favorite team is not scheduled to air, but I am blown away that the Roma-Bordeaux game is not being shown on Setanta or ESPN Deportes when first place in the group is up for grabs. How is Basel-Sporting a more attractive game when absolutely nothing is at stake in this game as far as the CL is concerned. This goes back to Setanta's focus on Portugese teams, which makes no sense given the fact that there is enough quality in the sides to usually make it out of the group but rarely enough to make it past the next round in recent years (minus the Porto's winning side a few years back). I might be missing something in terms of immigrant demographics in the US but I don't get the sense that the quantity of Portugese immigrants (and Portugese football-watching immigrants) is greater than the quantity of French and/or Italian football-watching immigrants.

EDIT: Just noticed SA's note about ESPN Deportes delayed games. I hope this one falls into that category. Either way, the comment still stands re: Setanta's picks.

You are definately not biased. I was looking forward to that, and Inter's for the implications.

Unfortunately my team cannot effect their position despite playing against the team that guarantees they are on TV.

[lokar]

I sure hope this is wrong, it is ridiculous to not show by far the most important match of the week. Is there any chance ESPN will change their minds?

[socceraction]

I know everyone has something to say when their favorite team is not scheduled to air, but I am blown away that the Roma-Bordeaux game is not being shown on Setanta or ESPN Deportes when first place in the group is up for grabs....

Roma - Bordeaux will live on espn360.com. Here is what will be on offer there:

Tuesday:
Roma - Bordeuax
Werder Bremen - Inter Milan
Chelsea - Cluj

Wednesday:
Man United - Aalborg
Real Madrid - Zenit
Juventus - BATE Borisov

Still waiting on ESPN Deportes to complete schedule.

SA

[BocaFan]

I sure hope this is wrong, it is ridiculous to not show by far the most important match of the week. Is there any chance ESPN will change their minds?

Actually Panathinaikos v Anorthosis is the most important match of the week because the loser of that match definitely goes home. :cool:.

[cthomer5000]

It is unfortunate the biggest games aren't on live (or in one case, at all), but I can't fault the business logic behind the decisions.

Liverpool vs anyone in any meaningless game will rank higher than a very vital game between middling French and Italian sides.

I'm disappointed, but I cannot say i'm surprised.

[socceraction]

ESPN still hasn't posted what games they are showing on ESPN Deportes on their site but using tvguide.com I can finalize the schedule. All times US Central (Chicago) -


Champions League - Tuesday, 9 December

1:45pm Chelsea - Cluj
..............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN + espn360.com
..............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (3:45pm) + TSN2 (4:30pm) + espn360.com (on demand)

1:45pm PSV Eindhoven - Liverpool
..............LIVE: Setanta USA/Canada
..............DELAYED: Setanta Canada (6:30pm) + Setanta USA (8:15pm + 8:15am/next day)

1:45pm Werder Bremen - Inter Milan
..............LIVE: TSN2 + espn360.com
..............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm) + espn360.com (on demand)

1:45pm AS Roma - Bordeaux
..............LIVE: TLN/Canada + espn360.com
..............DELAYED: TSN (11:30am/next day) + TSN2 (3:45pm/next day) + ESPN Deportes (11:00am/Thursday) + espn360.com (on demand)

1:45pm FC Basel - Sporting Lisbon
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (6:30pm + 6:15am/next day)

1:45pm Barcelona - Shakhtar Donetsk
..............LIVE: ESPN Deportes
..............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (8:00pm + 2:00am next day) + TSN (11:00pm) + TSN2 (2:00am/next day)

1:45pm Marseille - Atletico de Madrid
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (6:00pm + 8:00pm/Thursday)

1:45pm Panathinaikos - Anorthosis
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (4:45pm + 10:00pm) + Setanta Canada (4:45pm)




Champions League - Wednesday, 10 December

1:45pm Manchester United - Aalborg
..............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN + espn360.com
..............DELAYED: TSN2 (4:30pm) + ESPN Deportes (6:00pm) + Setanta USA (6:30am/Friday) + espn360.com (on demand)

1:45pm FC Porto - Arsenal
..............LIVE: Setanta USA/Canada
..............DELAYED: + Setanta Canada (6:30pm) + ESPN Deportes (8:00pm) + Setanta USA (8:15pm + 1:00am/Friday + 11:45am/Friday) + TSN (11:00pm) + TSN2 (2:00am/next day)

1:45pm Real Madrid - Zenit St. Petersburg
..............LIVE: ESPN Deportes + TLN/Canada + TSN2 + espn360.com
..............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm) + ESPN Deportes (1:00am/next day) + espn360.com (on demand)

1:45pm Celtic - Villarreal
..............LIVE: Setanta 2 (Premium)
..............DELAYED: None

1:45pm Lyon - Bayern Munich
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (6:30pm + 8:15am/next day) + ESPN Deportes (1:00pm/Thursday + 3:00am/Friday)

1:45pm Dinamo Kiev - Fenerbahce
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (4:45pm + 10:00pm) + Setanta Canada (4:45pm)

1:45pm Steaua Bucharest - Fiorentina
..............LIVE: None
..............DELAYED: None

1:45pm Juventus - FC BATE Borisov
..............LIVE: espn360.com
..............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (3:45pm) + TSN (11:30am/next day) + TSN2 (2:30pm/next day) + espn360.com (on demand)

SA

[djpower]

I don't know what the hell is going on at ESPN in Updating there tv listing latley, I don't know where you got your listing for ESPN2/ESPN360 for the CL as both Soccernet and ESPN international website does not have anything listed.

They usually update there schedule for the La Liga and Serie A matches there going to show on there international stations on either a Thursday or Friday but they never updated the information for weekend just gone and my EPG had the same information as there website which was wrong:mad:

[Drake44444]

I don't know what the hell is going on at ESPN in Updating there tv listing latley, I don't know where you got your listing for ESPN2/ESPN360 for the CL as both Soccernet and ESPN international website does not have anything listed.

They usually update there schedule for the La Liga and Serie A matches there going to show on there international stations on either a Thursday or Friday but they never updated the information for weekend just gone and my EPG had the same information as there website which was wrong:mad:

ESPN360.com has posted what they will be showing.

[djpower]

I just noticed that they updated there information and they added in there schedual for last weekends matches plus the CL, it would of help if this information was available before the weekend started not after any how them updating the information also means they now have official listing for all there network in the US and abroad