2008 CWC: Al Ahly - Pachuca (Quarterfinal #1) [R]

[El CHarro_NEgro....]

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Date: 13.12.2008 (13:45 Tokyo)

TV: Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Sports en Español, ART Sport 3, Others (http://www.goalzz.com/main.aspx?c=4098)

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SwissGCZ, is there a team more dominant than Al Ahly?

[HeartandSoul]

Al Ahly were the team that beat America back in 2006 to take 3rd place. They have a Portuguese coach that could very well be a manager for either either the Portuguese or Egyptian national team in the future.

[SwissGCZ]

SwissGCZ, is there a team more dominant than Al Ahly?
In other confederations? Hardly, although Waitakere could establish similar dominance with a third O-League title next year. But that of course isn't nearly as impressive.

And to post this again...

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Club America - Al Ahly (2006 CWC)

[GW Emperor]

African Club's seem to be a bit of a bogey for Mexican Club's in the CWC, however on saying that the player quality of Pachuca is better than that of Al Ahly, so hopefully Pachuca will advance past the Egyptians. Pachuca vs Al Ahly should be a very good game though.
If Pachuca manage to get past LDU Quito in the Semi's, then this would result in the first ever time that a non Euro or S.American Club has reached the final. Such an occurence would be great for CONCACAF and the very strong and rapidly developing Mexican League.
A Man Utd vs Pachuca final, would be won by a full strength Man Utd squad, however if you took Ronaldo out of that squad and Pachuca played very dirty with United, then Pachuca could win it.

[Naui_Ocelotl]

African Club's seem to be a bit of a bogey for Mexican Club's in the CWC, however on saying that the player quality of Pachuca is better than that of Al Ahly, so hopefully Pachuca will advance past the Egyptians. Pachuca vs Al Ahly should be a very good game though.
If Pachuca manage to get past LDU Quito in the Semi's, then this would result in the first ever time that a non Euro or S.American Club has reached the final. Such an occurence would be great for CONCACAF and the very strong and rapidly developing Mexican League.
A Man Utd vs Pachuca final, would be won by a full strength Man Utd squad, however if you took Ronaldo out of that squad and Pachuca played very dirty with United, then Pachuca could win it.

We don't play dirty, most Mexican club sides don't for that matter, so throw tha notion out the window. We'll try to play football and see what happens. :)

[SwissGCZ]

African Club's seem to be a bit of a bogey for Mexican Club's in the CWC, however on saying that the player quality of Pachuca is better than that of Al Ahly, so hopefully Pachuca will advance past the Egyptians.
I see this as a 50-50 game.

I normally rate the Mexican Primera Division as the strongest league outside Europe and South America, but Ahly has proven to be extremely consistent and Pachuca failed to make the Liguilla (playoffs) this season.

[avalanche-870]

I see this as a 50-50 game.

I normally rate the Mexican Primera Division as the strongest league outside Europe and South America, but Ahly has proven to be extremely consistent and Pachuca failed to make the Liguilla (playoffs) this season.
this is my first post here and i discovered this site during my search for football forums that speak about the upcoming 2008 FIFA Club World Cup to see what people think of my team. so yes i can say that our team has alot to show this year in japan and our game with pachuca won't be easy for them or for us.indeed its a 50:50 game but we got alot to show in the field especially with the new players who didn't participate in the CAF championship and whom you didn't see in the matches highlights(if you saw any).so hopefully these players will be the key for us to get through the pachuca match and who knows may be to the final

[SwissGCZ]

indeed its a 50:50 game but we got alot to show in the field especially with the new players who didn't participate in the CAF championship and whom you didn't see in the matches highlights(if you saw any).so hopefully these players will be the key for us to get through the pachuca match and who knows may be to the final
I saw a couple of matches on ART including the final. Who are these players? They weren't registered for the CAF CL on time?

[jus2nang]

I saw a couple of matches on ART including the final. Who are these players? They weren't registered for the CAF CL on time?

I think they signed a striker from Enyimba who was scoring goals left right and centre in this season's Champions' League.

[Ahlawy Red Devil]

I think they signed a striker from Enyimba who was scoring goals left right and centre in this season's Champions' League.
No .. he didn't sign ..
There are 2-3 new players joined the team last summer, too late to register them in the Champions League list.

[Ahlawy Red Devil]

I have a question to pachuca fans .. How good this team is? compared with Club America that Al Ahly played against, the 2006 CWC ?

[avalanche-870]

I saw a couple of matches on ART including the final. Who are these players? They weren't registered for the CAF CL on time?
No they were not registered as they came to al-ahly last january.they are 9 new players but of course not all of them will be in japan.yet there are 3 players that you should watch if they played:Ahmed hassan farag(called drogba cause he looks identical to drogba.he is a striker different from Ahmed Hassan the midfielder who will probably be playing)and Hany el-egezy(another tall efficient striker)and hussein yasser al-mohamady(a midfielder he plays in qatar selection).those are the new who will probably play in addition to the other players(focus on the midfielder abou trika)

[jus2nang]

I have a question to pachuca fans .. How good this team is? compared with Club America that Al Ahly played against, the 2006 CWC ?

I'm not a Pachuca fan, but here is a video of their game against Etoile du Sahel from last year's tournament:

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[GW Emperor]

I have a question to pachuca fans .. How good this team is? compared with Club America that Al Ahly played against, the 2006 CWC ?

Both Pachuca and Club America are very evenly matched at present in my opinion, and both of these Mexican Clubs do have better overall player quality than Al Ahly, so really they should not be losing too often to this Egyptian Club. There seems to be a bit of a curse affecting the better Mexican's when they compete against the Africans, this in the CWC, and hopefully this year Pachuca will break it, and show how great the Mexican League truly is.

[Ahlawy Red Devil]

Both Pachuca and Club America are very evenly matched at present in my opinion, and both of these Mexican Clubs do have better overall player quality than Al Ahly, so really they should not be losing too often to this Egyptian Club. There seems to be a bit of a curse affecting the better Mexican's when they compete against the Africans, this in the CWC, and hopefully this year Pachuca will break it, and show how great the Mexican League truly is.

May be Pachuca shouldn't have lost to the Tunisian team in 07, Pachuca dominated the match and had more chances but the Tunisians scored, which is more imprtant. In 06, Al Ahly played a good match with Club America and deserved that win (without the need of the curse).

"better overall player quality" I don't know about that .. if you want to fairly compare, you have to see both teams .. that's why I asked, I didn't see Pachuca so I can't judge ..

[GW Emperor]

May be Pachuca shouldn't have lost to the Tunisian team in 07, Pachuca dominated the match and had more chances but the Tunisians scored, which is more imprtant. In 06, Al Ahly played a good match with Club America and deserved that win (without the need of the curse).

"better overall player quality" I don't know about that .. if you want to fairly compare, you have to see both teams .. that's why I asked, I didn't see Pachuca so I can't judge ..

I have seen quite a bit of both Pachuca and Al Ahly this year, and on comparing what I have seen I would say that Pachuca are better. However on saying that they are both very good sides in my opinion, and I believe that if Al Ahly reached the final of the CWC they would actually give Manchester United the harder match. One thing that I love about Egyptian teams is that they seem very fearless and confident, no matter who they come up against. Pachuca and LDU could easily fall apart against Man Utd, whereas Al Ahly will be mentally intact and strong from start to finnish.

[Naui_Ocelotl]

Pachuca was not in good form this past season as we couldn't qualify for the playoffs in a very mediocre Apertura 2008. However we did have some good victories along the way, for example a 5-2 thrashing of Guadalajara. If we play like we did against Chivas we could very well make the final and once there anything can happen.

[El CHarro_NEgro....]

Pachuca was not in good form this past season as we couldn't qualify for the playoffs in a very mediocre Apertura 2008. However we did have some good victories along the way, for example a 5-2 thrashing of Guadalajara. If we play like we did against Chivas we could very well make the final and once there anything can happen.
Well, Chivas isn't exactly a powerhouse either ;)

[Naui_Ocelotl]

Well, Chivas isn't exactly a powerhouse either ;)

Besides Manchester United, neither are any of the other clubs in the CWC.

[GW Emperor]

Besides Manchester United, neither are any of the other clubs in the CWC.

In comparison to the mighty Manchester United nobody is a powerhouse. They are the World's most popular club. Only probably Real Madrid, AC Milan, Bayern Munich and Boca Juniors come close, but even this closeness features quite a gap.