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beyonder09
24 Nov 2008, 07:43 PM
MONTREAL - Following Major League Soccer (MLS) Commissioner Don Garber’s comments on Montreal’s bid for the upcoming 2011 expansion, Montreal Impact and Saputo Stadium President Joey Saputo presented a briefing Monday morning to clarify the facts and shed light on the circumstances leading to the rejection of Montreal’s bid. Read the full address of Joey Saputo, principal representative of the Montreal bid delegation. ***

Hello to all,

Thank you for your presence at this morning’s briefing.

First of all, I would like to take this occasion to congratulate the Alouettes for their incredible season, knowing how difficult it is to be competitive year after year on the Montreal professional sports scene.

Congratulations to the organization and to all team members.

***

Speaking as the representative of a group that wanted to obtain an MLS franchise in Montreal, I consider it essential to speak to you today to straighten out a number of facts about our bid.

As you know, a lot has been said and written over the past few days regarding Montreal’s bid for an MLS franchise.

Today, I want to take the necessary time and opportunity to clarify, once and for all, some very important issues with you.

First:
Montreal never at any point withdrew its bid from the process. We were rather informed that our bid was not retained.

Second:
The Montreal partnership NEVER, at any point, had any trouble whatsoever financing its bid.

Third:
There was NEVER any question of using public funds to finance this project.

***

So what happened exactly?

Allow me to briefly recap our bidding process.

In March of 2008, the Saputo and Gillett families combined their incredible strengths and experience in sports and entertainment to acquire an MLS franchise in Montreal.

While there was no bidding process per say back in March, we decided to put forth a proposal that was basically turnkey for the league, since we believe Montreal is an incredible market for soccer.

At that time, our detailed proposal projected a private investment, including franchise fee and stadium expansion, which totaled $43 M CDN.

After a few months and no feedback from the league, we were then informed that we had to resubmit a bid, this time by October 15, following specific guidelines.

Between the two bids, the financial landscape had dramatically changed, and we are now faced with an economic crisis of epic proportions and the Canadian dollar continuously losing value.

We nevertheless pooled our collective strengths and submitted a thorough, detailed bid which this time around, represented a total private investment of $45 M CDN.

At the end of October, having received no news from the league, I contacted MLS to inform them that Montreal, if need be, given its solid infrastructures and operational experience, would be ready to join MLS as early as 2010, should it suit the league.

During that same call, I was told that we would be invited down to New York to meet MLS officials to discuss our bid.

Finally, last week, after receiving an invitation to the MLS Final but still no news on our proposal, five weeks after submitting our bid in October, I was informed that our bid had been outright rejected because it never met the $40 M US expansion fee.

Since the beginning of our discussions with the MLS, we have always demonstrated interest, but not at any price.

Why?

Because we have the responsibility to ensure the development of soccer and its sustainability in Quebec;

Because we want soccer to remain affordable in Montreal;

And because we believe that after 15 years of experience and history, Montreal is, without any doubt, a sure value soccer-wise.

Of all MLS potential new markets, we are one of the very few that can immediately deliver a turnkey soccer operation:
- We continue to have success on the field;
- We have a tremendous fan base and media following;
- We have unprecedented experience in sports and entertainment marketing;
- We have an existing expandable soccer specific-stadium;
- And we have an experienced player roster that wouldn’t dilute the overall player pool.

Our bid included a 20,000 seat expansion in our stadium.

This expansion phase would not only have enabled us to meet MLS criteria, but would have ensured the completion of the grandstands around the stadium, as well as added a row of corporate boxes in the upper level.

We had also offered the creation of a foundation to continue our mission of promoting and developing soccer in Quebec and in the community because this is a fundamental factor of our success.

Finally, we are continuing to work on an indoor soccer center project to be located near the stadium, which will serve as a training facility year-round for the team as well as the Academy.

In soccer, like in any other realm of business, we have to make sure that our next acquisition will not be our last acquisition because it is a bad acquisition.

We strongly believe that a $40 M US franchise fee alone would seriously mortgage the future of soccer and of our team.

The bid that was submitted was absolutely not meant to be interpreted as a lack of respect towards the MLS and the expansion process.

Instead, I believe our approach was sound, based on a credible business model, in order to have a healthy franchise in the Montreal market.

In our eyes, this was a crucial element, especially given the current economic context.

We have the capacity to pay the $40 M US expansion fee.

I assure you that the issue was NEVER a question of MLS not being affordable for our group. It was - above all - a question of being sensible.

Unfortunately, while we stated our case in a detailed proposal, we never really had the opportunity to meet with MLS to discuss these issues, nor did we ever receive proactive feedback from our proposals at any time throughout this process.

I can only assume that the expansion fee – and the expansion fee alone – is the predominant criteria for entering MLS.

Having said that, while we were told that MLS is out of the picture for 2011, we remain open to any possible expansion in the future.

However, if the long and winding road of professional soccer in Montreal has taught me one thing, it is that any decision we take regarding this team and our sport has to make business sense first.

Regardless of the league in which we will play, our approach and philosophy have enabled us to achieve remarkable things up to now:

- We have a fantastic soccer stadium that is coveted by many clubs in North America;

- We are one of the most decorated teams in the history of Canadian soccer;

- We are the Canadian champions and will be taking part in the quarterfinals of the CONCACAF Champions League in February;

- We have enjoyed international success with the Champions League and are determined to do everything it takes to repeat it next season;

- And year after year, our base of loyal fans increases, as our record attendances this season reveal.

The reality is, this team needs a year-round training facility and - should attendances continue to grow - we will eventually need to expand the stadium.

So many of the elements of our proposal can and will be implemented, whether we are in MLS or not.

To that effect, I can assure you we will always continue to improve ourselves every way we can, by always maintaining high standards of excellence.

And we will always look for ways to reach higher goals – without selling ourselves short or mortgaging our future.

Thank you very much.

Joey Saputo


http://www.montrealimpact.com/News/News.aspx?language=EN&ArticleID=1031&Focus=0

the shelts
24 Nov 2008, 08:14 PM
That was great.

See not only did Garber do something really stupid, he then piled on the agony.

In this economy, with the whole financial system going helter-skelter, the very last thing I'd want a CEO or a Commish of an for profit entity to do would be burn the bridges of new money.

In fact Don not only poured gasoline on the bridge and light the fire to burn the bridge. He then shouted across the burning bridge and insulted Joey Saputo.

This is dumb. This is not the way you treat someone looking to invest 45 million in your entity. Now sure, Don is ok short term because the check from Toronto, from Philly, from Seattle have all cleared the bank. There is about 6 other guys all trying to give him that 40 million dollar check.

But one thing Garber might learn the hard way.........this very well may come back to haunt him. Having gone and insulted Joey Saputo and the Impact is one of those things that I believe will come around in 4-5 years and bite him in the ____.

A couple of more expansion cities dry up (ie NYC2) and a couple of more teams keep saying they will build a stadium but don't (Boston + Houston) and a couple more people might start to think that moving a current team beats an expansion process ( Houston - San Jose) and Don could find that this league is on tenous ground.

Although Montreal getting a team was not a sure thing, insulting the owner on the way out the door was a sure mistake.

Indiscretion
24 Nov 2008, 08:17 PM
point is saputo the douchebag wanted to play hardball and not pay 40 mil...he has been pissing and moaning over the fee for YEARS...hell i would get tired of his bs too

D3nZ
24 Nov 2008, 09:38 PM
point is saputo the douchebag wanted to play hardball and not pay 40 mil...he has been pissing and moaning over the fee for YEARS...hell i would get tired of his bs too

I've been watching the Impact for a long time and I don't remember Joey talking about the fee, I remember him talking about the system of the MLS with the Single-Entity Structure but not about fee.

DavidP
24 Nov 2008, 10:07 PM
If MLS doesn't watch out, they may price themselves out of the market. Philly may indeed be the last MLS franchise granted, only because nobody else would pay up.

Good for Saputo for putting practicability over mortgaging the future.

Sport Billy
24 Nov 2008, 10:30 PM
While everyone knows how much I want a team in St. Louis, they is still a small part of me that would like to see Cooper tell Garber to piss off.

I still don't see how, especially in todays economy, that an expansion team is worth $40 mil.

Part of me would love to see St. Louis, Montreal, NYC2, Atlanta, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Detroit, Portland or Vancouver, all join USL.

With none of this single entity BS or salary caps, I think USL teams will regularly beat MLS teams in the CONCACAF tournaments.

PhillyMLS
24 Nov 2008, 10:58 PM
I've been watching the Impact for a long time and I don't remember Joey talking about the fee, I remember him talking about the system of the MLS with the Single-Entity Structure but not about fee.

There was a few times it came up. I don't have any specifics (too late to look up links) but he had said at least once that he wanted MLS to stick to the original 30 million.

If MLS doesn't watch out, they may price themselves out of the market. Philly may indeed be the last MLS franchise granted, only because nobody else would pay up.

Good for Saputo for putting practicability over mortgaging the future.

Problem for Saputo is he isn't quoting in US dollars. His original quote was for a little about 43.5 million dollars and now it is just a little over 38 million USD. That is despite the fact that he was putting up 2 million more Canadian dollars. Now his bid is worth 36.3 million just a little over a month later. So he wants the league to make a decision based on a value that will continually change in comparison to other bids. Plus the construction costs are going to go up as the Canadian dollar weakens (if it continues to do so of course) so that will cause the amount available for the fee to drop (and that fee that is left will depreciate as the Canadian dollar weakens.

And the one thing to consider is that an economic downturn is a great time to invest if you have the money. Construction material prices are falling due to the tanking economy. Plus with the downturn in construction you can get better bids and better prices because it is harder for construction companies to get business. So overall you can drive down the cost of construction in a bad economy.

gregro
25 Nov 2008, 02:51 AM
While everyone knows how much I want a team in St. Louis, they is still a small part of me that would like to see Cooper tell Garber to piss off.

I still don't see how, especially in todays economy, that an expansion team is worth $40 mil.

Part of me would love to see St. Louis, Montreal, NYC2, Atlanta, Phoenix, Minneapolis, Detroit, Portland or Vancouver, all join USL.

With none of this single entity BS or salary caps, I think USL teams will regularly beat MLS teams in the CONCACAF tournaments.


It is not about what it is worth now, it is about what it will be worth in the future. For example the Seattle Mariners were purchased for much less money than the franchise is valued at now (even though we suck!!). When the franchise fees were 20 mil some thought that was real steep.

Also, we are in a market driven society. If the market says the team is worth 40 million and other franchises see the value and are willing to pay that than that it is what it is worth. How much do you think Albert Puljos is worth to the Cards? Whatever the market decides what his worth is is what it is. (Arn't you glad you have him though?)

There is the way we think it should be and there is the way it is. SB, you are an idealist and that is what I like about you. I mean that! :D

gregro
25 Nov 2008, 02:53 AM
If MLS doesn't watch out, they may price themselves out of the market. Philly may indeed be the last MLS franchise granted, only because nobody else would pay up.

Good for Saputo for putting practicability over mortgaging the future.


That is not going to happen. There are 6 franchises that have no issue with investing 40 mill for a franchise that will be worth much more down the road. ;)

SounderMan
25 Nov 2008, 03:23 AM
That was great.

See not only did Garber do something really stupid, he then piled on the agony.

In this economy, with the whole financial system going helter-skelter, the very last thing I'd want a CEO or a Commish of an for profit entity to do would be burn the bridges of new money.

In fact Don not only poured gasoline on the bridge and light the fire to burn the bridge. He then shouted across the burning bridge and insulted Joey Saputo.

This is dumb. This is not the way you treat someone looking to invest 45 million in your entity. Now sure, Don is ok short term because the check from Toronto, from Philly, from Seattle have all cleared the bank. There is about 6 other guys all trying to give him that 40 million dollar check.

But one thing Garber might learn the hard way.........this very well may come back to haunt him. Having gone and insulted Joey Saputo and the Impact is one of those things that I believe will come around in 4-5 years and bite him in the ____.

A couple of more expansion cities dry up (ie NYC2) and a couple of more teams keep saying they will build a stadium but don't (Boston + Houston) and a couple more people might start to think that moving a current team beats an expansion process ( Houston - San Jose) and Don could find that this league is on tenous ground.

Although Montreal getting a team was not a sure thing, insulting the owner on the way out the door was a sure mistake.



Quit it. You have got to be kidding. Taking this at face value is like buying the story from some chick who just got dumped. MLS was asking for diamonds and Saputo offered some cubic zirconium he picked up outside of Jarrod's. You gotta pay to play in this type of process. Saputo misread the process and FAILED. Would you go into your favorite restaurant and offer $15 for a porterhouse steak that is listed on the menu for $25 and be shocked when you didn't get it?

the shelts
25 Nov 2008, 06:57 AM
SounderMan - If you look again at what I posted my diatribe was not against Saputo and his business model. I'm not talking about the bid and subsequent decision, I'm talking about Don 'foot-in-mouth' Garber and his jack___ way of announcing to the media.........try and keep up. Your girlfriend analogy is so off base its laughable and a testament to the decline in education standards in this country, the steak dinner at least makes sense, but that wasn't what I was posting.

It was against the amateur night way that Garber (mis)handled it.

They had a good bid on the table..........(remember September the Canadian dollar was worth more than our greenback) and were told to resubmit. So then he has to call down and was told to fly down.

Now this is where I get mad at Garber, first he says that the Impact don't have the cash, then 2 days later MLS website revises' that and says the bid wasn't accepted.

Garber insulted Saputo, for that I think the guy is wrong. Its just not what you expect a CEO of a for-profit entity to do against an investor.

You say it behind closed doors and put out a mutual statement thanking everyone for their interest.

GArber mickey-moused this thing good.

Sport Billy
25 Nov 2008, 07:10 AM
It is not about what it is worth now, it is about what it will be worth in the future. For example the Seattle Mariners were purchased for much less money than the franchise is valued at now (even though we suck!!). When the franchise fees were 20 mil some thought that was real steep.

Also, we are in a market driven society. If the market says the team is worth 40 million and other franchises see the value and are willing to pay that than that it is what it is worth. How much do you think Albert Puljos is worth to the Cards? Whatever the market decides what his worth is is what it is. (Arn't you glad you have him though?)

There is the way we think it should be and there is the way it is. SB, you are an idealist and that is what I like about you. I mean that! :D

Maybe "worth" is a poor choice of words.

At $40 mil, even if people are willing to pay it, it is a very poor investment.

DavidP
25 Nov 2008, 08:35 AM
Would you go into your favorite restaurant and offer $15 for a porterhouse steak that is listed on the menu for $25 and be shocked when you didn't get it?

Wouldn't have to. Steaks at Waffle House don't cost that much. :D And yeah, I'm sure they're not as good as the ones at Ruth's Chris.

Macksam
25 Nov 2008, 09:06 AM
Maybe "worth" is a poor choice of words.

At $40 mil, even if people are willing to pay it, it is a very poor investment.
Yeah, it seems high for an MLS franchise but if people are willing to pay it, who's to say otherwise. Just business as usual.

denver_mugwamp
25 Nov 2008, 09:12 AM
Quit it. You have got to be kidding. Taking this at face value is like buying the story from some chick who just got dumped. MLS was asking for diamonds and Saputo offered some cubic zirconium he picked up outside of Jarrod's. You gotta pay to play in this type of process. Saputo misread the process and FAILED. Would you go into your favorite restaurant and offer $15 for a porterhouse steak that is listed on the menu for $25 and be shocked when you didn't get it?

Every business is a gamble and you shouldn't bet money if you don't have the reserves to back it up. In this case, Saputo was trying to get into a high stakes poker game with only a couple of Loonies in his pocket. As they say in Texas--big hat but not enough cattle.

WFU03
25 Nov 2008, 09:32 AM
Maybe "worth" is a poor choice of words.

At $40 mil, even if people are willing to pay it, it is a very poor investment.

If I had at least $50 mil, I would invest in MLS immediately. I think $40 mil is a great price for a team with a strong potential of long-term return. Granted, I'm not as thrilled (as a potential investor) as I would have been a few years back, but the risk is also much lower now.

Z010 Union
25 Nov 2008, 10:58 AM
Now this is where I get mad at Garber, first he says that the Impact don't have the cash, then 2 days later MLS website revises' that and says the bid wasn't accepted.


Well, both are correct from a certain standpoint. They didn't have the (amount of) cash needed AND it wasn't accepted.

Sport Billy
25 Nov 2008, 11:04 AM
Well, both are correct from a certain standpoint. They didn't have the (amount of) cash needed AND it wasn't accepted.

I wouldn't say they didn't "have" the cash - they simply just didn't "offer" the cash.

EDIT: I do want to add, that I agree Garber handled it poorly. He said, "Montreal has not been able to finalize their application."

That's BS - their application was finalized - MLS just simply did not like their offer on the expansion fee.

He could have said that each bid was required to include certain specifications and that Montreal failed to meet those specifications.

Simply not agreeing on price does not mean Montreal was "unable to finalize."

metros11
25 Nov 2008, 12:08 PM
I wouldn't say they didn't "have" the cash - they simply just didn't "offer" the cash.

EDIT: I do want to add, that I agree Garber handled it poorly. He said, "Montreal has not been able to finalize their application."

That's BS - their application was finalized - MLS just simply did not like their offer on the expansion fee.

He could have said that each bid was required to include certain specifications and that Montreal failed to meet those specifications.

Simply not agreeing on price does not mean Montreal was "unable to finalize."

'Unable to finalize' is just another way of saying 'You didn't meet the criteria'. Everyone can argue that Garber went about it in the wrong way, but the truth of the matter stands. Back in spring Saputo offered an amount of money for the franchise he felt was valid, and MLS told him it wasn't enough. The rules for application specifically stated the $40 million dollar expansion fee, and yet Saputo once again submitted his proposal with a figure far below that one. You can tell me all you want about Garber insulting Saputo, but to me it sounds like Saputo insulted MLS. With 6 other applications on the table Garber did the right thing. And if Joey wants to tell us and his fans that 'Montreal does not need MLS, MLS needs Montreal', then all he needs to do is look no further then Rochester New York. We've all heard the same swan song from DuRoss, and look where it landed the Rhinos.

Zoidberg
25 Nov 2008, 12:17 PM
SounderMan - If you look again at what I posted my diatribe was not against Saputo and his business model. I'm not talking about the bid and subsequent decision, I'm talking about Don 'foot-in-mouth' Garber and his jack___ way of announcing to the media.........try and keep up. Your girlfriend analogy is so off base its laughable and a testament to the decline in education standards in this country, the steak dinner at least makes sense, but that wasn't what I was posting.

It was against the amateur night way that Garber (mis)handled it.

They had a good bid on the table..........(remember September the Canadian dollar was worth more than our greenback) and were told to resubmit. So then he has to call down and was told to fly down.

Now this is where I get mad at Garber, first he says that the Impact don't have the cash, then 2 days later MLS website revises' that and says the bid wasn't accepted.

Garber insulted Saputo, for that I think the guy is wrong. Its just not what you expect a CEO of a for-profit entity to do against an investor.

You say it behind closed doors and put out a mutual statement thanking everyone for their interest.

GArber mickey-moused this thing good.


To say you got this wrong on your posts is the understatement of the year.
I'm sure you were one of the people saying the same things about MLS/Garber with regards to the RRR's at the time.

Insert Garber for Saputo and Saputo for Garber and then you are headed in the right direction.

All this shows is that you know zero about Joey S, his business, his ego, his past history, his penchant for a loud mouth/hot air/blatant BS and lying, his questionable business ethics and business 101.

I'm not trying to be condescending or mean spirited here.

You are just so wrong, on so many levels. It's pretty amusing & amazing.

Mickey Mouse is Canadian in this instance. You either just have a HUGE axe to grind or are pretty clueless about the whole issue and business. Respond all you wish. I won't. Not to something this wrong. Can't reason with ignorance or radicalism. Only quetion is - are you one or both?

Note - Garber was very gracious considering what an absolute jerk JS has been in this process...and he has. To believe JS is to believe Bill didn't inhale and there are still WMD in Irag somewhere.

BTW - Got a bridge in Brooklyn for ya. Real cheap. Interested?