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mcontento
19 Aug 2002, 11:10 AM
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8482

Just an FYI in case any of you missed her.

Eric B
19 Aug 2002, 01:56 PM
Ben Olsen - Real Man of Genius

SoFla Metro
19 Aug 2002, 02:13 PM
I don't even have a joke here.

ElJefe
19 Aug 2002, 02:16 PM
I have a newfound admiration for Ben Olsen.

kebzach
19 Aug 2002, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by ElJefe
I have a newfound admiration for Ben Olsen.

I'm now a D.C. United fan.

And am I the only one not surprised that she's STILL hanging around with 15 year olds?

mactheknife
19 Aug 2002, 03:41 PM
this thread made my morning.

NorthGoalGang
19 Aug 2002, 03:50 PM
Maybe Ben saw Beat The Geeks.

Eric B
19 Aug 2002, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by NorthGoalGang
Maybe Ben saw Beat The Geeks.

Beninho's about 6 months away from matching the Movie Geek's Richie Blackmore look.

Dan Loney
19 Aug 2002, 06:35 PM
What is WRONG with you people? He SPAT on a FAN!

Is this thing on? Hello?

Who woke up this morning and said, "You know what this league needs to draw spectators? PLAYERS SPITTING ON FANS!"

Aren't you the same people who give birth to two separate cows if a player dares to give a fan the finger? And you're giving the thumbs-up to spitting? If Olsen tried that in the NBA, the media would have him roasting on a spit.

Come back, Carlos Valderrama, all is forgiven. (Oh, he's still around? He played Saturday? Oh, that's who that guy was. I thought it was a fan in a wig....)

ElJefe
19 Aug 2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Dan Loney
Aren't you the same people who give birth to two separate cows if a player dares to give a fan the finger?
No.

My opinion is this: If you're going to sit or stand there and run your piehole at some player, you should expect possible consequences, whether those consequences were being given the finger, being spat on, or being beaten down by that player. Now, does this excuse what Olsen did? No. He should get fined or suspended or whatever.

But if you don't want this sort of thing to happen, just keep your fat yap shut and just be a "nice fan." Players are guaranteed not to mistreat you then.

Bill Archer
19 Aug 2002, 06:57 PM
With all due respect Mr Loney, you need to double your meds and reconsider your position here.

I think you've maybe missed a couple of points, to wit:

1) This story is coming from quite possibly the most notorious bad source of information in the history of American soccer. Until we have independent confirmation of this story, in the finest tradition of Ben Bradlee, those of us who prefer a dose of reality with our morning coffee might very well cast a skeptical eye on this tale of saliva and potassium replenishing beverage.

2) Half of the soccer fans in America only wish that, instead of gatorade, Olsen had spit a mouthful of gasoline on her and followed it up with a match.

3) 49.9% of the balance think this is a shocking waste of perfectly good Riptide Rush.

4) The remaining 0.1% is Nap, and if you're looking for an easy androgeny line, forget it. I don't need the card.

5) The parenting of various bovine species aside, I personally am DELIGHTED when a player gives some fans the finger. It means that all the carefully crafted ethnic, racial and sexual-identity slurs we hurl don't fall on deaf ears. I mean, if you have to bounce beer bottles off the guy to get his attention, you're just not trying hard enough.

6) It WAS a fan in a wig. Carlos has been dead since 1999.

Hey, don't thank me. This is what I do.

Fred

Dan Loney
19 Aug 2002, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by ElJefe
My opinion is this: If you're going to sit or stand there and run your piehole at some player, you should expect possible consequences, whether those consequences were being given the finger, being spat on, or being beaten down by that player. Now, does this excuse what Olsen did? No. He should get fined or suspended or whatever.You could not be drawing the line in a more wrong place. There's no way I would expect being spat on, let alone a beatdown, for running smack at a player. I wouldn't expect that from the rawest, most unstable rookie in the history of pro sports.

By this logic, the guy pulling out a gun and capping you is a "possible" consequence.

Even if spitting was a reasonably realistic consequence of smack running, how the hell does "change your diaper" get put in that category? "Hey, Ben, did you change your diaper?" That's not going to win the Smack-Off, to say the least. I mean, that's about a step and a half above booing the guy.

But if you don't want this sort of thing to happen, just keep your fat yap shut and just be a "nice fan." Players are guaranteed not to mistreat you then. Well, this is just another way of saying "Don't go to games," and I doubt that's the message MLS wants to send.

"Did you change your diaper?" Wow, the last time I said something that vicious was, let me think, oh, yeah, every single game I've ever been to in my entire life.

Originally posted by Bill Archer
1) This story is coming from quite possibly the most notorious bad source of information in the history of American soccer. Until we have independent confirmation of this story, in the finest tradition of Ben Bradlee, those of us who prefer a dose of reality with our morning coffee might very well cast a skeptical eye on this tale of saliva and potassium replenishing beverage. Thought we had that, though. Unless both Aimer and sj_quakes_fan are lying like carpets.

2) Half of the soccer fans in America only wish that, instead of gatorade, Olsen had spit a mouthful of gasoline on her and followed it up with a match.

3) 49.9% of the balance think this is a shocking waste of perfectly good Riptide Rush.

4) The remaining 0.1% is Nap, and if you're looking for an easy androgeny line, forget it. I don't need the card. Yeah, but that's not the point - the way I'm reading the story, this could have been any fan.

And based on the level of smack it apparently takes to set Olsen off, Crew Fan and Metro Fan should probably start running now.

5) The parenting of various bovine species aside, I personally am DELIGHTED when a player gives some fans the finger. It means that all the carefully crafted ethnic, racial and sexual-identity slurs we hurl don't fall on deaf ears. I mean, if you have to bounce beer bottles off the guy to get his attention, you're just not trying hard enough. I'm actually with you on this, but I understand spoilsports in the league office fining obscene gestures. I love it when players taunt, mock, or yell back. Rick Titus is aces in my book.

But spitting? That's where I jump off and swim to shore.

6) It WAS a fan in a wig. Carlos has been dead since 1999.It could have been his embalmed corpse out there, come to think of it.

Although he stank up the Rose Bowl too much to be actually embalmed.

ElJefe
19 Aug 2002, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Dan Loney
You could not be drawing the line in a more wrong place. There's no way I would expect being spat on, let alone a beatdown, for running smack at a player. I wouldn't expect that from the rawest, most unstable rookie in the history of pro sports.
You should accept it as a possibility. Look, if you're out on the street and you start running your piehole at some stranger, don't you expect that occasionally somebody's going to take offense and acquaint you with the business end of his fist? Of course.

So why do we think it should be any different in the stadium? Because the guy receiving the verbal abuse is a professional athlete? Please. Frankly, the reason why it doesn't happen more is because your average pro athlete has built up a pretty thick skin by this point in his life and because he knows for sure that he might suck, but he's still better than you. And oh yeah, you don't want to be assaulting people in front of thousands (or dozens, in the case of San Jose) of witnesses.
By this logic, the guy pulling out a gun and capping you is a "possible" consequence.
Yup. Not likely, but still theoretically possible.
Even if spitting was a reasonably realistic consequence of smack running, how the hell does "change your diaper" get put in that category? "Hey, Ben, did you change your diaper?" That's not going to win the Smack-Off, to say the least. I mean, that's about a step and a half above booing the guy.
People are funny. Things that most people think are funny or innocuous or harmless set other people off. I got flipped off by Brad Friedel in 1996 for yelling, "Hey, Brad, you ever been in a Turkish prison?" Now this is a guy whose been in some of the most intense fan atmospheres on Earth when he was playing in Turkey, and yet, a line from the movie Airplane set him off. Why? I dunno.

Why would some remark about diapers set Ben Olsen off? I dunno. Maybe he or another member of the Olsen family is suffering from incontinence. Maybe he was a bedwetter until his early teens.
Well, this is just another way of saying "Don't go to games," and I doubt that's the message MLS wants to send.
No, it's just another way of saying, "Just root, root, root for the home team and be slavishly positive and not ever say anything mean about your opponents." I'm sure you can find plenty of fans at MLS stadia that feel this way.
"Did you change your diaper?" Wow, the last time I said something that vicious was, let me think, oh, yeah, every single game I've ever been to in my entire life.
Me too. But if you're going to dog opposing players (or even your own team's), then you should accept the possibility of a negative reaction. That doesn't excuse the player's reaction, in any way, shape, or form. It's a trade-off that anyone should know about before they decide to go after opposing players. After all, nobody's holding a gun to your head, saying that you have to dog opposing players.

Actions have consequences, and if you don't like the possible consequences, then don't commit the actions.

Flyer Fan
19 Aug 2002, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Eric B
Ben Olsen - Real Man of Genius We salute you Mr. Spit on Annoying Trollup Guy. Where others see threatening models, you seen an opportunity for target practice.

Bill Archer
20 Aug 2002, 07:31 AM
See? Now THIS is good stuff.

Matrim55
20 Aug 2002, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Dan Loney
By this logic, the guy pulling out a gun and capping you is a "possible" consequence.
Yeah, like that would ever happen.

- Ray Lewis


originally posted by El Jefe
Maybe he was a bedwetter until his early teens.
Maybe he still is. Maybe next time he comes to my neck of the woods, he'll hear something about that. Maybe you just came up with a new nickname for Bedwettin' Ben.

Well done.

TRC Real Sociedad
20 Aug 2002, 12:23 PM
Hell, he could have spit Dr Peppers new Red Fusion at her, have you tasted that $hite, it tastes like watered down cherry cough syrup without the hallucinations.

sj_quakes_fan
20 Aug 2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Eric B
Ben Olsen - Real Man of Genius

Why? Cuz he's a spitter? You like them that way huh?

Eric B
20 Aug 2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by sj_quakes_fan


Why? Cuz he's a spitter? You like them that way huh?

I don't care what the "men of leisure" who you service tell you, the difference between "like" and "love" is a spit and a swallow.

sj_quakes_fan
20 Aug 2002, 01:09 PM
So you're saying you only like Ben? You're don't love him??

I'm sure he'd be disappointed. He's been practicing his spitting.