2008 FIFA Club World Cup - General Thread [R]

[bosterosoy]

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Tournament Home on FIFA.com (http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/index.html)

UEFA: Manchester United (England)
CONMEBOL: LDU Quito (Ecuador)
CONCACAF: Pachuca CF (Mexico)
AFC: Gamba Osaka (Japan)
CAF: Al Ahly (Egypt)
OFC: Waitakere United (New Zealand)
Host Spot: Adelaide United (Australia)

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Tournament Winners & Statistics:

Intercontinental Cup

1960 Real Madrid (ESP)
1961 Peñarol (URU)
1962 Santos (BRA)
1963 Santos (BRA)
1964 Inter Milan (ITA)
1965 Inter Milan (ITA)
1966 Peñarol (URU)
1967 Racing Club (ARG)
1968 Estudiantes (ARG)
1969 AC Milan (ITA)
1970 Feyenoord (NED)
1971 Nacional (URU)
1972 Ajax Amsterdam (NED)
1973 Independiente (ARG)
1974 Atlético Madrid (ESP)
1975 No competition
1976 Bayern Munich (GER)
1977 Boca Juniors (ARG)
1978 No competition
1979 Olimpia (PAR)

Toyota Cup

1980 Nacional (URU)
1981 Flamengo (BRA)
1982 Peñarol (URU)
1983 Grêmio (BRA)
1984 Independiente (ARG)
1985 Juventus (ITA)
1986 River Plate (ARG)
1987 FC Porto (POR)
1988 Nacional (URU)
1989 AC Milan (ITA)
1990 AC Milan (ITA)
1991 Red Star Belgrade (SER)
1992 São Paulo (BRA)
1993 São Paulo (BRA)
1994 Vélez Sarsfield (ARG)
1995 Ajax Amsterdam (NED)
1996 Juventus (ITA)
1997 Borussia Dortmund (GER)
1998 Real Madrid (ESP)
1999 Manchester United (ENG)
2000 Boca Juniors (ARG)
2001 Bayern Munich (GER)
2002 Real Madrid (ESP)
2003 Boca Juniors (ARG)
2004 FC Porto (POR)

Club World Cup

2000 Corinthians (BRA)
2005 São Paulo (BRA)
2006 Internacional (BRA)
2007 AC Milan (ITA)
2008 ???

Clubs with Multiple Titles

4 - AC Milan (ITA)
3 - Boca Juniors (ARG)
3 - Nacional (URU)
3 - Peñarol (URU)
3 - Real Madrid (ESP)
3 - São Paulo (BRA)
2 - Ajax Amsterdam (NED)
2 - Bayern Munich (GER)
2 - FC Porto (POR)
2 - Independiente (ARG)
2 - Inter Milan (ITA)
2 - Juventus (ITA)
2 - Santos (BRA)

Titles by Association

9 - Argentina
9 - Brazil
8 - Italy
6 - Uruguay
4 - Spain
3 - Germany
3 - Netherlands
2 - Portugal
1 - England
1 - Paraguay
1 - Serbia

Titles by Confederation

25 - CONMEBOL
22 - UEFA

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2008 ???

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I just hope that LDUQ doesn't embarrass COMENBOL and lose to the CONCACAF team and finish in 3rd/4th

[El CHarro_NEgro....]

I just hope that LDUQ doesn't embarrass COMENBOL and lose to the CONCACAF team and finish in 3rd/4th
From what I saw, LDU was already weakened at this year Sudamericana :(

[bosterosoy]

From what I saw, LDU was already weakened at this year Sudamericana :(
Boca beat them 4-0 at home and then drew 1-1 away with some reserves and mainly youths

[jared9999]

I just hope that LDUQ doesn't embarrass COMENBOL and lose to the CONCACAF team and finish in 3rd/4th

theres no guarantee that pachuca will beat the african team

[bosterosoy]

ya for some reason I forgot that stage. But I think that LDUQ is also vulnerable to the African team

[Bengoechea]

i predict a final between

Manchester United - Al-Ahly

[Naui_Ocelotl]

I haven't seen Al Ahly play but Liga looked awful in international competition this year. Should be an accessible road to the final for my Pachuca. :)

[Argentine Futbol]

i rather see liga against ManU than pachuca or al Shittyhad fc.. pachuca will get raped by Manu..

[Naui_Ocelotl]

i rather see liga against ManU than pachuca or al Shittyhad fc.. pachuca will get raped by Manu..

Just like AC Milan outclassed Boca last year? :)

[bosterosoy]

Just like AC Milan outclassed Boca last year? :)
and just like Boca beat Pachuca...oh wait, you guys lost against the African team, and now that the African team is Al Ahly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's another one and out by Pachuca

[Naui_Ocelotl]

and just like Boca beat Pachuca...oh wait, you guys lost against the African team, and now that the African team is Al Ahly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's another one and out by Pachuca

I doubt it, we learned our lesson from last year and I'm confident we'll defeat Al Ahly. :)

[SwissGCZ]

Looks like Al Ahly got a new club logo in 2007:

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[SwissGCZ]

With under two weeks to go I've moved some posts to the Ahly-Pachuca match thread.

Elsewhere the AFC has finally assigned all the spots for the re-launch of the AFC Champions League next year:

SHANGHAI: Ten AFC Member Associations have been given direct entry into next year’s revamped AFC Champions League, which will mark the dawn of a new era of professionalism for Asian football.

Japan, Korea Republic, China, Iran and Saudi Arabia will have four clubs in the 32-team competition.

Other Member Associations who have satisfied the entry requirements based on stringent criteria are: United Arab Emirates (three clubs), Australia (two), Uzbekistan (two), Qatar (two) and Indonesia (one).

UAE and Indonesia will also be able to enter one club in the ACL Play-offs, along with one club from India, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. The winners and runners-up of the AFC Cup 2008 will get a berth in the Play-offs.

A condition for the ACL Play-offs is that each club is a commercial entity according to AFC Champions League criteria. Otherwise, they will be invited to play in the second-tier AFC Cup.

Full Article: http://www.the-afc.com/eng/articles/viewArticle.jsp_168362461.html

[SNEAKERPRO]

I PREDICT,

Man U vs Al-AHLY

FINAL


MAN U 3

AL-AHLY 1

[Dynamic]

ha ya boca got trashed by milan it was like seeing lil kids against giants lol.

[GW Emperor]

ha ya boca got trashed by milan it was like seeing lil kids against giants lol.

I very much doubt that Milan could do that again though. The youth and pace of Boca would show up the Milan retirement home big time. Too many old players are destroying what was once a great team.
Milan are very lucky not to find themselves in the UEFA Champions League this season, this because a team like Chelsea, Liverpool and Barcelona would easily defeat them by at least 3 goals. In a preseason friendly this season Chelsea already crushed them 4 - 0.

[SwissGCZ]

Looks like the quality of the OFC team won't increase in the near future...

-- Wellington Phoenix say no to O-League (New Zealand Herald) -- (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10545731)
The Wellington Phoenix have turned their back on playing in the O-League, preferring to try and gain entry into the Asian Champions League. The Oceania Football Confederation had been poised to step up efforts to allow the Phoenix into next year's O-League but the A-League club responded with a thanks, but no thanks.

"Probably not at this stage," Pignata said when asked if the Phoenix would accept an invitation to play in the O-League. "Fifa closed the door to us on the O-League [this year] so we are focusing on working with the FFA to go through Asia. We are part of the A-League and want to have the same rights the other sides have.
Leaving the very complicated situation of Wellington Phoenix aside, this now means that the OFC won't field a competitive team next year either. For those who don't know, Sepp Blatter said last year (2007) that the OFC has two years to show it belongs. Otherwise the CWC spot might be taken away by FIFA.

[GW Emperor]

Looks like the quality of the OFC team won't increase in the near future...

-- Wellington Phoenix say no to O-League (New Zealand Herald) -- (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10545731)

Leaving the very complicated situation of Wellington Phoenix aside, this now means that the OFC won't field a competitive team next year either. For those who don't know, Sepp Blatter said last year (2007) that the OFC has two years to show it belongs. Otherwise the CWC spot might be taken away by FIFA.

Well thats shocking in my opinion. In order to determine a true World Champion every Continent needs to have their say and have a Club participating. It's time that the old senile joke known as Sepp Blatter retired from his position at FIFA, this if he is going to come up with such harsh crap as this.

[Templinho]

I find it both incredible and alarming that FIFA continues to demean the OFC. The problem is there for all to see, and needs to be addressed immediately. Oceania cannot stand on it's own as a confederation. I believe it should be integrated into the AFC. Certainly, there would be practical and logistical obstacles to overcome, but surely this is the most viable solution.

Back on topic, I think this year could very well witness the first non-European/South American finalist. I think Pachuca/Ahly have every chance of overcoming LDU; it will be fascinating to see how this side of the draw develops.

[SwissGCZ]

Oceania cannot stand on it's own as a confederation. I believe it should be integrated into the AFC. Certainly, there would be practical and logistical obstacles to overcome, but surely this is the most viable solution.
Agreed. This can not happen soon enough. I believe all it would take at this point is for New Zealand Football to state that they wan't to follow Australia to the AFC.
I think Pachuca/Ahly have every chance of overcoming LDU; it will be fascinating to see how this side of the draw develops.
Yep, the LDU Quito side of the bracket looks to be the interesting one.