New Korn "Take a Lok in The Mirror"

[PSUdude]

Probably their most agressive album ever (even more agressive than their first). Plus a cameo of Nas on one track. Really well-done album overall

[655321]

I hate you.

[minorthreat]

Is that the one with the "shut up, shut up, shut up or I'll *#*#*#*# you up" lyrics? Genius, that.

Korn have never been anything but complete and utter crap.

[Doctor Stamen]

Korn are rubbish. All their songs sound the same, with the same "shut up, stop pissing me off, I'm so *#*#*#*#ed up" theme. In fact, I'm not sure, they have 3 different songs, but play one tune, and then play it backwards to slightly different lyrics.

[BlueMeanie]

Originally posted by 655321
I hate you.
Wow. You're cool, and only the music you like rocks.

[ThrashBoy]

People who still care about this band fit into one of two categories:

1. Are too young to remember when the first album was unlike anything that anyone had heard in a long time

or

2. Just don't understand music, period.

Let me rate the Korn albums for you:

s/t: godlike

Life is Peachy: surprisingly good although rushed

Follow the Leader: crappy attempt to go mainstream

Issues: good because it's the closest thing to a complete record they've made

The last two: "WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF ME!!??" = running out of ideas

[655321]

Originally posted by BlueMeanie
Wow. You're cool, and only the music you like rocks.

Take it easy, chief...

[PSUdude]

I agree with Thrashboy for the most part. I thought "Issues" wasn't great, but a good album. "Follow the leader" really was like a "Get rich quick" type of album, though I thought their live show at the time was fantastic (got to see the show in the "Korn Cage" an met the band). "Untouchables" had it's moments, and I thought it was like what Nirvana did with "Incesticide" (purge the current fanbase to get most of the casual fans out). I remember the first time I heard them in HS, and thought this was the type of album people will refer to as an influential album 15 years from now.

[SportBoy333]

Originally posted by C-towner


Korn have never been anything but complete and utter crap.

I second that. I laugh when people say their first album was good. Sure nothing at the time sounded quite like it but it still sounded like $hit.

[BakedAlaskan]

I don't get it.I just...don't...get it.

Korn is just another example of how ********ed up the music scene is in America.Their guitars suck ass.I like the European rock/metal a lot more.They actually,get this,practice their instruments more than they practice their sound.Yeah,I know...crazy talk.Plus,almost all European music is based on classical influences and almost all American music comes from blues influences.I like the blues,it's just that some peoples versions are quite pathetic.

NEXT

[slipknotter]

Originally posted by BakedAlaskan
I don't get it.I just...don't...get it.

Korn is just another example of how ********ed up the music scene is in America.Their guitars suck ass.I like the European rock/metal a lot more.They actually,get this,practice their instruments more than they practice their sound.Yeah,I know...crazy talk.Plus,almost all European music is based on classical influences and almost all American music comes from blues influences.I like the blues,it's just that some peoples versions are quite pathetic.

NEXT
So what you're saying is that European bands are better because of a more traditional approach to the music? You can't sound good because you're deviating from the status quo? That's just your weed talking. Korn USED to be alright, they jumped the shark after Life Is Peachy, which was also when everyone and their moms stole their sound and started playing seven-stringers. Korn doesn't necessarily suck, but they've been punished by the saturation of bands they helped spawn. Also, seven-stringers are like cheating, you can go low enough on six strings as it is.

[BakedAlaskan]

Originally posted by slipknotter
So what you're saying is that European bands are better because of a more traditional approach to the music?
No.I said that I like European metal/rock more because they practice their instruments a Hell of a lot more than Americans do.American bands always try to sound tough and heavy and most of that is just a twist of some knobs on a soundboard.I've never listen to Nu-metal and think to myself"Wow!How did their guitarist pull that off?"

Originally posted by slipknotter
You can't sound good because you're deviating from the status quo? No.I didn't say that either.Originality rarely equates to quality.Just because someone has the balls to stand up on stage and play poor guitar like no one else before them doesn't mean it's good.

Originally posted by slipknotter
That's just your weed talking.
Nah,I would've typed up a Hell of a lot more if I was stoned.Trust me.You don't wanna go there. ;)

Originally posted by slipknotter
Korn USED to be alright, they jumped the shark after Life Is Peachy, which was also when everyone and their moms stole their sound and started playing seven-stringers.
Which is why I used them as the example for what is wrong with the American music scene.

Originally posted by slipknotter
Korn doesn't necessarily suck, but they've been punished by the saturation of bands they helped spawn. Also, seven-stringers are like cheating, you can go low enough on six strings as it is.
I can't argue with a single word of that,but just to stay consistent...I hate Slipknot,too.

PEACE

[slipknotter]

Originally posted by BakedAlaskan
I've never listen to Nu-metal and think to myself"Wow!How did their guitarist pull that off?"
Neither have I, but just because some guy in Germany can play a guitar solo at 220bpm doesn't mean he's good. He's good at that, but if that's all he can play, whoop dee ********in doo. Anyone could do that if that's all they practice.

No.I didn't say that either.Originality rarely equates to quality.Just because someone has the balls to stand up on stage and play poor guitar like no one else before them doesn't mean it's good.
I can't argue with you there, stage prescence doesn't equate to a good performance. I've seen bands give their all on stage and their music still sucks.

I can't argue with a single word of that,but just to stay consistent...I hate Slipknot,too.
Wow... :rolleyes: that's the millionth knock at my screen name. You can do better than that. You obviously never heard of other bands in this country, just because it's on the radio, doesn't mean it's the only thing out there, it seems like you should know such. Not all decent heavy/death/thrash metal bands come out of Europe. Also, the eighties were over a long time ago, you can't just keep playing the same thing that worked back then, when said musician enjoyed the attention, and now try to fellate their sense of relevancy by saying: "Metal isn't dead, it's underground, blah blah."

[BakedAlaskan]

Originally posted by slipknotter
just because some guy in Germany can play a guitar solo at 220bpm doesn't mean he's good. He's good at that, but if that's all he can play, whoop dee ********in doo. Anyone could do that if that's all they practice.
Exactly.Key words...if and practice.Solos aren't as important to me as you might think,but it sure is nice to hear that element of the instrument being used once in awhile.And since you picked Germany to sort of proove your point,I'll pick Helloween to sort of proove mine(And also because I'm listening to The Dark Ride right now).They feature almost everything I like about METAL.That is not saying that they are my favorite band or that they play my favorite style,I'm just using them as an example.

On any given CD(Except for the two with Michael Kiske before they got Andi Deris)they'll have melody filled ballads(good chick tunes...If I Could Fly is a great song),cheezy happy pop/metal songs(Yes.Sometimes you don't have to be depressed/against the world and are actually allowed to feel good about life once in awhile),heavy rockers(For the old Dio/Dokken fans),power metal(fast yet still keeping melody) and thrash metal(They still do put out two or three really good ragers per CD).That's a wide range of styles that's mixed in,on occasion,with a piano or an orchestra.It's the aggression that attracts me to metal more than anything.It's the variety that keeps me from getting bored with it.

Originally posted by slipknotter

Wow... :rolleyes: that's the millionth knock at my screen name. And you still can't seem to take the hint.

Originally posted by slipknotter
You can do better than that.
You're damn right I can.I was knocking the band,not your name...yet.

Just kiddin' on the last two,OK?
Originally posted by slipknotter
You obviously never heard of other bands in this country, just because it's on the radio, doesn't mean it's the only thing out there, it seems like you should know such. http://www.kznd.com/ I host a,surprise,thrash metal show at this station.It is a new music station and any band that has any record deal with a distorted guitar gets sent to our station.I'd saaaaay maybe 15% of the CDs that get sent to us actually make it on the air.Everything else gets handed to DJ Monk-A and myself(I'm not pictured,yet)and we pick through to get something we like.I have heard almost EVERY band in this country that is signed and I also listen to,and review,lots of unsigned bands at www.garageband.com .I LOVE this site.There are tons of free MPEGs to download and when I review,I am very open minded.I listen to each song at least twice and type in my review during the second and sometimes third or fourth listen.

Originally posted by slipknotter
Not all decent heavy/death/thrash metal bands come out of Europe.
I am quite aware of this.
www.bnrmetal.com
Search for Bands from(country)
Type in United States
Hit go.

Originally posted by slipknotter
Also, the eighties were over a long time agoJust because this country was force fed Grunge in the early 90s,Chick Rock in the mid 90s,Rap Metal in the late 90s and now nu-metal(which is already getting stale) doesn't mean that Metal was dead that whole time.Helloween,Gamma Ray,Blind Guardian and Rage have all been around 15-20 years.Check back with me around 2015-2020 to see if the Nu-metal scene is still thriving.

Originally posted by slipknotter
you can't just keep playing the same thing that worked back then, when said musician enjoyed the attention, and now try to fellate their sense of relevancy by saying: "Metal isn't dead, it's underground, blah blah."
Thrash Metal has never been anything other than underground.

Been fun going rounds with you.I'm not changing your mind and you sure as Hell ain't changin' mine,but still,it was fun.

PEACE

[slipknotter]

I'm in no means trying to change your opinion about music. The only opinion you should change is the fact that you probably think I'm some sixteen year old with baggy pants who already put away his seven-string guitar I got two years ago. Well, I've been listening to slipknot before their first album even came out and way before anyone made it trendy and I hate people who cheat the system by adding one more string to their guitar. Slipknot is the only "new metal" band I listen to. Otherwise, I hate "modern rock" radio and wish bands like Adema and Trapt never made it out of their "opressed" little Orange County suburbs or whatever the hell they're from. With that said, I can't wait til Six Feet Under come back to town. Nice websites, btw. Rock on...

[Mattbro]

Tonight we go to see the HEAVY METAL HAMPSTERS!!!


Anyhoo:

Originally posted by slipknotter
Neither have I, but just because some guy in Germany can play a guitar solo at 220bpm doesn't mean he's good. He's good at that, but if that's all he can play, whoop dee ********in doo. Anyone could do that if that's all they practice.

If that's me you're referring to, I no longer live in Germany, but thanks for thinking about me!

Okay, but seriously. A good solid foundation of technique gives a guitarist a LOT more options. And generally, if he can play a solo at 220bpm, that means he's spent thousands of hours practicing over the course of his life and is probably pretty good at adapting to other styles that are less difficult to play. Whereas the seven-stringed nu-metaller is going to have a hard time playing above his level, if you know what I mean.

In fact, let me give you an example: when grunge displaced hair metal and the Great Purge took place, the guys from e.g. Winger did not have to get jobs at McDonalds, because they are all stellar musicians who easily found employment as studio and touring players. When nu-metal goes out of style (and I would not place bets on the genre's longevity at this point in time), those guys are going to be S.O.L.

[slipknotter]

Originally posted by Mattbro
If that's me you're referring to, I no longer live in Germany, but thanks for thinking about me!
Please don't flatter yourself. We all know Vienna is in Switzerland, right? :D

[BakedAlaskan]

Originally posted by Mattbro
Tonight we go to see the HEAVY METAL HAMPSTERS!!!

Are you referring to Helloween or am I missing the boat here?

[Mattbro]

Originally posted by BakedAlaskan
Are you referring to Helloween or am I missing the boat here?

Yeah!

The sweet taste of success is strong
And everything inside goes wrong you see
With coloured furs, sunglasses
Tons of nuts to eat, they don't feel free

What is wrong with our Heavy Metal Hamster?
Look what they have done our Heavy Metal Hamsters
Where is the field to run for our Heavy Metal Hamsters?
Some things are left undone for our Heavy Metal Hamsters


I love that song!

[BlueMeanie]

Originally posted by PSUdude
Probably their most agressive album ever (even more agressive than their first). Plus a cameo of Nas on one track. Really well-done album overall
Finally listened to it yesterday, and I wasn't really that thrilled first time through. I was surprised to read reviews saying this was much different than "Untouchables," because it just sounds like logical progression to me, with some added growly vocals. There are some really hard moments, like "Break Some Off," but for every one of those, there's a part where Korn sounds wussier than ever.

I hate the track with the rapper.

Which makes me wonder, is there anyone else like me who thinks Korn is just okay? Hilarious how they get such extreme reactions from people. IMHO, they neither rule nor suck.