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oakydoaks
18 Aug 2002, 09:11 AM
What are the east german teams (or the teams based on old east german region) in Bundesliga Division 1 and 2? How many?
Alex_K
18 Aug 2002, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by oakydoaks
What are the east german teams (or the teams based on old east german region) in Bundesliga Division 1 and 2? How many?
3 (of 36) in the 1st and 2nd Division (Cottbus, Rostock in the Bundesliga and Union Berlin in the 2nd).
In the 3rd Division are 5 of 37 teams from the former East Germany (Dynamo Dresden, Dresdner SC, Aue, Babelsberg and Erfurt ).
techin
18 Aug 2002, 11:05 AM
Don't forget Hertha Berlin BSC in the 1. Bundesliga
Alex_K
18 Aug 2002, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by techin
Don't forget Hertha Berlin BSC in the 1. Bundesliga
Hertha is a West German team (located in the former West-Berlin). They played in the West German leagues and their supporters are mainly from the western part of the city (correct me if i am wrong).
wolfsburgh
19 Aug 2002, 08:52 AM
One addition to Alex's list: FC Chemnitz (which I think was called Karl-Marx-Stadt pre-Fall of the Wall).
The German leagues unified for the 1991-92 season. The two teams from East Germany placed in the 1.Bund. were Hansa Rostock and Dynamo Dresden. Rostock was promptly relegated, only to return in 1995 or 1996 and stay. Dresden survived I think four years before being relegated. Financial problems subsequently saw them drop several leagues. Vfb Liepzig was promoted in 1993 and relegated after one season. Energie Cottbus was promoted in 2000;this is their third season in the 1.Bund.
East German teams to play in the 2.Bund. (aside from those above) include: Carl Zeiss Jena, FC Chemnitz, FC (Chemie) Halle, BSV Stahl Brandenburg, FC (Dynamo) Berlin, Rot Weiss Erfurt, FSV Zwickau, Union Berlin, and SV Babelsberg (there may be one or two others).
Alex_K
19 Aug 2002, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by wolfsburgh
One addition to Alex's list: FC Chemnitz (which I think was called Karl-Marx-Stadt pre-Fall of the Wall).
Oh yes, i forgot them.
The East German football really suffered under the reunification.
Eisern Union
19 Aug 2002, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Alex_K
Hertha is a West German team (located in the former West-Berlin). They played in the West German leagues and their supporters are mainly from the western part of the city (correct me if i am wrong).
Hertha draws fans from across the city, although are certainly more identified with the west. Simply put, if you want to see top flight football, you have to go to Hertha.
oakydoaks
20 Aug 2002, 05:57 AM
Thanks guys, for answering.
I have one more question to go.
It seems a lot of Eastern european or the former communist contries have teams named "Dynamo".
I know one is in Russia and I'm sure there are more. What exactly "Dynamo" means and why so many countries have teams with that name?
Alex_K
20 Aug 2002, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by oakydoaks
Thanks guys, for answering.
I have one more question to go.
It seems a lot of Eastern european or the former communist contries have teams named "Dynamo".
I know one is in Russia and I'm sure there are more. What exactly "Dynamo" means and why so many countries have teams with that name?
In Eastern Europe the football clubs were related to the state ministries and public
organizations. The names indicated that.
Example GDR (Left: Name of the club, right: related ministry, industry or organization) :
Aktivist = Fuel
Aufbau = Construction
Chemie = Chemistry
Dynamo = Police
Einheit = Administration
Energie = Energy
Fortschritt = Textile
Lokomotive = Traffic
Motor = Mechanical engineering
Post = Post office
Rotation = Press
Stahl = Steel
Traktor = Agriculture
Vorwärts (in other Eastern European countries CSKA) = Army
Wismut = Mining
vflkirwan
20 Aug 2002, 11:18 AM
Are the east german teams liked in the Western part....meaning do old west germans find more eastern teams in the league beneficial or no?
olafgb
20 Aug 2002, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by vflkirwan
Are the east german teams liked in the Western part....meaning do old west germans find more eastern teams in the league beneficial or no?
I don't think it's mattering too much. Almost everybody I know says that one eastern team has to be in the Bundesliga, but otherwise you rather differ according to sympathy (e.g. Rostock is sympathetic for many with their new stadium, with their Scandinavia fraction and always playing close to their limit; Cottbus is not well liked as the fans are very one-sided, the team is playing unattractive result determined defence soccer and is playing with many low budget Eastern Europeans (first team starting with 11 foreigners) than to regional differences.
Ethel The Frog
20 Aug 2002, 12:06 PM
What about East German players on the National Team?
I think Ballack is from the former East Germany. Is there anyone else?
KarlMai
20 Aug 2002, 01:06 PM
Yes, there are a few more from the East:
Schneider, Jeremies, Rehmer, Böhme, Jancker, Zickler, and Linke, Hertzsch and Borowski too.
Of course, Klose and Freier are technically West Germans, but have even more Eastern roots ;)
Ethel The Frog
22 Aug 2002, 07:03 PM
That's actually more east germans than I would have expected. There is no quota is there?
MikeLastort2
23 Aug 2002, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Ethel The Frog
That's actually more east germans than I would have expected. There is no quota is there?
East Germans are now Germans, and West Germans are now Germans. There is no quota.
olafgb
23 Aug 2002, 09:30 AM
Doesn't exactly fit to this thread, but Dresdner SC has to carry on playing in the stadium of local rivals Dynamo Dresden. Their stadium was that much damaged by the flood catastrophe that it is very uncertain whether it's possible to ever have a game there again. Dynamo had more luck as their stadium wasn't that dramatically affected.
wolfsburgh
23 Aug 2002, 01:18 PM
Dresden is building a new stadium for the WC, if I'm not mistaken. Who will play in it after the WC? DSC or Dynamo? Or whatever team happens to be playing in the highest league?
wolfsburgh
23 Aug 2002, 03:09 PM
Woops, never mind; it's Leipzig, not Dresden that's hosting. Although I guess that begs the question of who will play in that stadium (Sachsen or Vfb).