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Wasaaaaabi
18 Aug 2002, 03:53 AM
So, I was curious what support groups are out there right now. Some of them look like a lot of fun. Me & my boys at the Riot Squad have a blast every saturday. I'm wondering which other ones are out there in MLS. These are the ones I've heard of so far:

Galaxy: RIOT SQUAD, galaxians, barras amarillas, barras azul

Crew: V-army, the North End

Chicago: Barn Burners, Ultras

Dallas: Inferno, 3rd degree

San Jose: Club quake, Casbah

Kansas City: Mystics

Metros: Empire supporters

Revolution: Midnight riders, Rev Army

Colorado: River Rats

DC United: Screaming Eagles

What else is there? Which ones do you guys think are the best?

Chris_Bailey
18 Aug 2002, 10:21 AM
La Norte and Barra Brava: Dog Crap United

My order of the top:

1) B.B/Ultras- Taken a hit by Naperville, but will always bounce back. Without the Polish, they are not the top supporters. Travel very well.

2) S.E./La Nore/B.B- Combined, have as many supporters as the F*re, but I feel they need to be all on the same page to be top. Only travel East Coast

3) V-Army- New blood out of the general 137 (Northend) area. Gave it's hardest supporters a name and a new drive to be the best. Always contreversal, always there supporting the boys. Low numbers (100 or so) but travel well.

4) ESC- I've heard them through some telecasts, but they only travel east coast. They make DC-Metro games actually interesting.


The next three are tied. I see/hear nothing different to seperate these groups...

Dallas fans/SJ Fans/Mystics

Then there's the bottom dwellers:

8) LA Riot Squad? Have they started one yet?

9) Midnight Riders- I've met these guys, it's a family op and not that impressive, to me.

10) River Rats- Have they ever made an impact on a game?

jmeissen0
18 Aug 2002, 10:31 AM
in games, supporter groups often claim an area of the stadium and name it something

chicago it's quite simple, we have taken our cue from both where we reside in the stadium and the military... section 8...

in kansas city, their fans are in the cauldron

in columbus, it's the northend (simple, just like chicago)

casbah for the san jose

i'm not sure if anyone else calls their area anything or not... but some of the great things about doing it, as that the area is the area and doesn't necessarily require members of groups to reside and support the team from there

as in chicago, we have the barn burners, the ultras, the arsonists, and people unassociated with any supporter's group (like myslef) working together to provide the best, loudest support we can for our team in section 8

UpTheMetro
18 Aug 2002, 06:28 PM
Whats the point of having separate supporters clubs if you are all going to stand in one place together? To me it just sounds like everyone wants their own cool little name to call themselves.

Look at the Metro for example. The members of the NJ Bridage are their own separate supporters club but they are also part of the ESC. The NJB doesn't go around claiming that they have no association with ESC when they stand in section 101 at Giants Stadium. Its just they are members of the NJB and well as being members of the ESC.

It sounds like in chicago you have to ask the guy standing next to you, "so what supporters club do you belong to?"

CFnwside
19 Aug 2002, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by UpTheMetro
Whats the point of having separate supporters clubs if you are all going to stand in one place together? To me it just sounds like everyone wants their own cool little name to call themselves.

Look at the Metro for example. The members of the NJ Bridage are their own separate supporters club but they are also part of the ESC. The NJB doesn't go around claiming that they have no association with ESC when they stand in section 101 at Giants Stadium. Its just they are members of the NJB and well as being members of the ESC.

It sounds like in chicago you have to ask the guy standing next to you, "so what supporters club do you belong to?" at one point, the ultras, bb's, and arsonists were in three different parts of the stadium. it wasn't untill this season that we're all in the same section.

K
20 Aug 2002, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Bailey8
La Norte and Barra Brava: Dog Crap United

My order of the top:

2) S.E./La Nore/B.B- Combined, have as many supporters as the F*re, but I feel they need to be all on the same page to be top. Only travel East Coast

Actually the SEs have travelled as a group (like 30 people and up) to Chicago, Columbus, Dallas, LA (MLS Cup '98) and Denver (as well as Miami, NJ and NE). We try to do a trip a month but the scheduling lately has been lousy.

K

Chris_Bailey
20 Aug 2002, 09:44 PM
That's funny. The most I've ever seen from DC at a Crew game is maybe 5, tops. When did this roadtrip to Columbus occur?

gofire2001
22 Aug 2002, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by UpTheMetro
It sounds like in chicago you have to ask the guy standing next to you, "so what supporters club do you belong to?"

barnburners: loud but peaceful of all races.
Ultras: 99.9% polish with the exception of me and maybe a few others. Get in trouble here and there. Most vocal at the games.
Arsonists: I didn't even think they were still around.

The Magpie
22 Aug 2002, 12:12 PM
Riders were one of, if not the first organized ISA's in MLS. That being said, poor results and fan mailaise have seen those numbers drop considerably. The group dynamic is also such that many people don't want to be in the same section, don't want to stand, etc. It's not an especially cohesive group anymore and that's why we're not in the same league with other supporters groups. That being said we've made regular away trips to the Meadowlands, were the first away supporters group to take in a match at Crew Stadium, and we've sent a contingent to the 2001 Open Cup Final.

Rev Army is by far the most vocal and creative in "The Fort" (only designated section in Gillette Stadium where standing is allowed,) their numbers having grown, but their organization evolution coming before they started attending Rev matches. Good group, respected, and it makes Foxboro somewhat more than the morgue it is.

The Magpie

K
22 Aug 2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Bailey8
That's funny. The most I've ever seen from DC at a Crew game is maybe 5, tops. When did this roadtrip to Columbus occur?

We've done 2 tour bus trips ('97 regular season game at OSU and '99 playoffs at Crew Stadium). We did a van trip of 10 people for the '98 playoffs (we may of had a group of 15 as some met up with us). We had around 30 people at the game this year (April).

K

jdoh3333
24 Aug 2002, 07:34 PM
I used to go to as many Fire games as I could, and always brought as many people as I could to Soldier field. We would always stand in Section 8, even though our tickets weren't there. We we always welcome, and even those who were not soccer fans who I had dragged to the game, still talk about the great times, and even go to games on their own now.
Two years ago I moved to Los Angeles, and invited a group of friends who had never been to a game. I explained we would be standing singing and chanting during the game. The support group was the Galaxians, and as we headed over to sit with them, I was stopped by security saying I was not allowed to sit there because I was not a member of the "Galaxians." I still and never will understand it. That was the beauty of section 8, it was for everyone. You cant believe how foolish the 13 or 14 people chanting in the Galaxian section look. New "riot squad" group has the right idea though.

soccerdome
30 Aug 2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by jmeissen0
in games, supporter groups often claim an area of the stadium and name it something

chicago it's quite simple, we have taken our cue from both where we reside in the stadium and the military... section 8...

in kansas city, their fans are in the cauldron

in columbus, it's the northend (simple, just like chicago)

casbah for the san jose


as in chicago, we have the barn burners, the ultras, the arsonists, and people unassociated with any supporter's group (like myslef) working together to provide the best, loudest support we can for our team in section 8

AMEN. Of course I think the Fire have the best fans in all of MLS but, Dallas and LA are pretty good, too. They're not afraid to make noise and really get into the game. Now I realize that these are our biggest rivales, but it's the truth. So much credit to you guys!

supersport
01 Sep 2002, 02:22 PM
I think if all the MLS stadiums were to allow flags, fireworks and foul language, we might actully see some decent supporters groups emerge.

gofire2001
01 Sep 2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by soccerdome


AMEN. Of course I think the Fire have the best fans in all of MLS but, Dallas and LA are pretty good, too. They're not afraid to make noise and really get into the game. Now I realize that these are our biggest rivales, but it's the truth. So much credit to you guys!

Dallas and LA suck. The top 3 are fire, metrostars, and D.C.

Hattrix
01 Sep 2002, 11:41 PM
I never sat in section 8 at Soldier Field, because I liked the view from the middle of the field better. But I always appreciated the energy over there.

This summer the majority of the crowd at Cardinal Stadium is just pathetic, so I've started sitting in Section 9. (Eight is always sold out.) The other night I caught a glimpse of the Fire fans who had travelled to KC, and I recognized a bunch--one in particular (I think an "utltra") spends a lot of time in the Nest at the stadium in Naperville.

It was very cool to recognize fellow fans as individuals instead of just members of a group. I'm glad to see you guys out there. I just wish the Fire were having the kind of season that justifies these road trips.

Hattrix
01 Sep 2002, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by supersport
I think if all the MLS stadiums were to allow flags, fireworks and foul language, we might actully see some decent supporters groups emerge.

I have some thoughts on this foul language bit.

The Fire's new city has an issue with supporters shouting: "You suck, a$$hole!" when the opposition has a goal kick. It's generated a lot of discussion and even a new ordinance against public profanity. Fire supporters are worried about losing the opportunity to sit together if the chant isn't entirely supressed. You can read a thread all about it over by the fire fans section on BS.

Some weeks back Josh Wolff was taken down from behind just oustide the box. I was about 120 yards away, but saw it clearly, and yelled, "That's a f--ing red card, a$$hole!" Some one tapped me on the shoulder and told me to cool it. Family atmosphere and all that, you know.

And they're right. If I'm gonna be swearing up a storm, then I'll be setting a bad example for the kids. So I can't call the ref an ass when I'm playing or coaching, watching is about the only time I can. Now I've got to do that at home, where he can't hear me.

I'd like to see more soccer savvy adults at these games. And it just so happens those people are often foul mouthed. Instead, it looks like AYSO families are the ones who will be buying all the tickets. Naperville already doesn't serve beer. I bet they'll have orange slices at the concession stands by the time the playoffs start.

soccerdome
02 Sep 2002, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by gofire2001


Dallas and LA suck. The top 3 are fire, metrostars, and D.C.

Metros and D.C. are pretty good, I must admit. What I love about the Barra Barva (did I spell that right?) is they're loud like us, SECTION 8. A real good, passionate atmosphere.

gofire2001
02 Sep 2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by soccerdome


Metros and D.C. are pretty good, I must admit. What I love about the Barra Barva (did I spell that right?) is they're loud like us, SECTION 8. A real good, passionate atmosphere.

I think La Norte is the most passionate at DC games, it's just that they don't have large numbers. But Barra Brava, SE, and the choir are also great.