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GW Emperor
30 Oct 2008, 12:22 PM
With the true greatest competition in Club Football returning this December, I would like to get your thoughts on the competition and if possible how you believe the final standings will look come the tournament completion.

The Fifa Club World Cup is a comp which tends to be degraded by people living in the continent of Europe (my continent), but is seen as huge by the other 5 continents of the World, and rightly so.
The FIFA Club World Cup at the end of the day is the true best club competition in the world, this due to reasons that a) it is the only way for club's to be truly crowned as the World's Best Club, b) the prize money of 16.5 million is the biggest prize money offered by any club competition in the World, c) 6 of the 7 clubs involved actually belong in the competion as they are champions, this unlike misleading competions such as the UEFA Champions League, which oddly and unfairly can involve teams that finnish in second, third and fourth within their league.
The only reason why the FIFA Club World Cup is often degraded in Europe is because Europe always heavily over rates anything within their continent, and heavily under rates anything out of it. This of course is absolute madness, especially when you look at the fact that on the World stage, the continent of South America has more victories and trophies over the continent of Europe, this in World Soccer Competions.
With the European's you get the impression that they believe they are too good for a competition like the Club World Cup, but this is actually far from the truth. It is far from the truth because the South American's have won both the Club World Cup and Tokyo Cup (the older version of the competition) far more than the European's have, and the Europeans and even the South Americans never have a easy match against the clubs from the other continents of the World either.
The 2008 edition of the FIFA Club World Cup will consist of each champion from the 6 Continents of the World, which was declared via their head club competion (i.e. UEFA Champions League), and as an added extra the champion of the host nation's domestic league, which will be the J-League out of Japan.
Adding a domestic league champion to the competition is a stupid decision in my opinion, as they are a huge odd one out when you consider that the rest of the teams involved will all be continental champions. Despite this however, it is still the most proper competition in World Club Soccer, and this is because their is only one team that doesnt belong in it, whereas the other six all do belong in the tournament.
At this present time the following clubs have qualified for the competition:

UEFA: Manchester United (England)
CONCACAF: Pachuca (Mexico)
OFC: Waitakere United (New Zealand)
CONMEBOL: LDU Quito (Ecuador)
AFC: Awaiting Winner
CAF: Awaiting Winner

Host Nation League Champion: Awaiting Winner

Of these clubs involved Manchester United will be favourites to win this year's competition, but my prediction is that Man Utd will only win it if they turn out a very strong squad and Christiano Ronaldo must be in it. If Ronaldo is not in the first team then Man Utd will find it very hard against clubs like Pachuca and LDU Quito, and will probably get knocked out of the tournament. The Japanese league champion will also be very hard to beat as European teams always struggle against these sides, especially when the Japanese are on their home turf.
Both LDU Quito and Pachuca are very strong teams, and Pachuca are playing in the Mexican Primera Division, which is currently one of the World's strongest league's and just like the Mexican National side is getting stronger and stronger with each year.
In my opinion if each team can turn out their strongest side then the final rankings in the knock out tournament will look like this:

World Champion: Manchester United, Runner Up: LDU Quito, Third Place: Pachuca, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth Place: CAF Champion, AFC Champion, or J-League Champion (Difficullt to call the final positions of these clubs) Seventh Place: Waitakere United.

Remember that this tournament is a knock out tournament, which also features a third/fourth place play off, and 5th/6th place playoff. The European and South American teams join in the Semi Finals, whereas all others, apart from the team who loses in the one first round match between J-League Champion and OFC Champion, will be involved in the two Quarter Final matches.
So then CONCACAF Fans and citizens what are your thoughts on what is truly the best club competion in World Soccer?

MoRado
30 Oct 2008, 08:23 PM
I hope Pachuca gets to the final, Liga de quito may had played a great tournament, but Pachuca is much better than them
anyways... Man U is gonna win it

Naui_Ocelotl
31 Oct 2008, 04:15 AM
Honestly I don't see this as being a very prestigious tournament, now having said that I certainly wouldn't mind seeing my club Pachuca win this cup. :) I definately see Pachuca making the final, Liga de Quito looked quite bad against Boca Juniors' reserve side recently and IMO are an accessible opponent for Pachuca. My prediction for the FIFA CWC 2008 final: Pachuca 2-1 Manchester United, :D in all seriousness though United should win this thing.

Oceans of time
02 Dec 2008, 06:56 PM
It's all about one thing really. We all want to take a crack at ManU. Remember, this is our one shot to play the best in a match that matters. Go Gophers!
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\^the king^/
02 Dec 2008, 08:37 PM
LDU Quito was incredible in the libertadores and they showed they can take on the strongest teams from the top south american countries and one mexican. N_O, even though what boca juniors did to LDU was unacceptable and just embarassing it was coming, joffre guerron (named the best player in the copa libertadores) was the hype man and was considered the most dangerous (even though I believe it was bolaņos) was bought by getafe, that was a big hit for the team and they were still on the high of being champions when boca smacked them. LDU and pachuca are very even as of now, but like all of you had said, manU will probably take IF they take it seriously.

heithem
03 Dec 2008, 12:37 AM
Anyone know if any of the FIFA CWC 2008 matches will be on TV in the US?

Moises
03 Dec 2008, 01:49 AM
Anyone know if any of the FIFA CWC 2008 matches will be on TV in the US?
fox sports en espanol

Oceans of time
03 Dec 2008, 07:36 AM
Anyone know if any of the FIFA CWC 2008 matches will be on TV in the US?
Fox Soccer Channel

Mosco
03 Dec 2008, 11:50 AM
When does this tournament start? I think the game will be close between Pachuca and Manchester United lets put it this way it will be a better show than what boca tried to pull against that Italian team last CWC

Oceans of time
03 Dec 2008, 01:01 PM
When does this tournament start? I think the game will be close between Pachuca and Manchester United lets put it this way it will be a better show than what boca tried to pull against that Italian team last CWC Check this link for match times and brackets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_FIFA_Club_World_Cup
I did the conversion for the first Pachuca game. It will be at
22:40: Friday December 12, 2008 in US/Central
20:40: Friday December 12, 2008 in US/Pacific
against the Africa champ Al-Ahly from Egypt.

GW Emperor
03 Dec 2008, 01:01 PM
When does this tournament start? I think the game will be close between Pachuca and Manchester United lets put it this way it will be a better show than what boca tried to pull against that Italian team last CWC

Hola Mosco

This year's CWC opens on 11th December and closes on 21st December.

So therefore it all kicks off next week.

Oceans of time
03 Dec 2008, 01:27 PM
Mosco, Is that a soccer nickname? I played a lot of pick-up soccer with some Mexicans this past summer and we had your namesake; another "Mosco". It's short for Mosquito they tell me.

Mosco
05 Dec 2008, 09:13 PM
Mosco, Is that a soccer nickname? I played a lot of pick-up soccer with some Mexicans this past summer and we had your namesake; another "Mosco". It's short for Mosquito they tell me.




Mosco means a fly like the insect, and no that was not me that you played a pick up game with sorry

Dynamic
09 Dec 2008, 03:16 AM
LOL fukn mosco always making your presence be known. I hope pachuca makes it to the final and surprises manu :). As long as manu plays a good game they will take this no doubt.

Mosco
09 Dec 2008, 12:56 PM
LOL fukn mosco always making your presence be known. I hope pachuca makes it to the final and surprises manu :). As long as manu plays a good game they will take this no doubt.



Hey atleast you can't say that I have never put no work in to represent our boards, I should be an Icon:D

El_Profe_F
12 Dec 2008, 07:08 PM
Here's my prediction

Dec 13th:

Pachuca 2
Al Ahly 1


Dec 14th:

Adelaide 0
Oaska 2


Dec 17th:

Pachuca 1
LDU 1 (LDU advances on penalties)


Dec 18th:

Manu 3
Osaka 1


3rd place match:

Pachuca 3
Osaka 1

1st place match:

Manu 2
LDU 0

jared9999
13 Dec 2008, 02:38 AM
Lets put an R in this thread. highlight to reveal score

Pachuca won playing fantastic football 4-2

fdp
13 Dec 2008, 06:13 AM
A bit off topic, but I will ask nevertheless.

Mosco. Why don't you post in BSMX anymore?

Feel free to answer me here or via PM.

jared9999
13 Dec 2008, 06:19 AM
hes banished :D

fdp
13 Dec 2008, 06:35 AM
Are you serious?

More info please...