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kahn1
17 Aug 2002, 08:15 PM
What do most of you think of germanys chances are to win the euro? I think as long as kahn is healthy and with the great defense that they play i dont think anyone will beat them.

Basti
18 Aug 2002, 12:32 AM
It depends on how Voeller integrates the young defense with the team because as everyone saw in the world cup it was a bit shakey at times.

olafgb
18 Aug 2002, 04:07 AM
We'll see. Of course you always need luck, but I'm afraid that it won't happen again that a team has such an easy run to the final. Realistically Spain, Italy, Portugal, France, Netherlands, England and maybe even Denmark or Sweden aren't worse than Germany.

Ethel The Frog
22 Aug 2002, 07:07 PM
2004 is a long distance away, and I do not even know where the games will be played.

I will be routing for the Netherlands. They sure seem to have a lot of good young talent these days, though I do not know who will be the enforcer that replaces Davids in 2004.

astabo0ty
22 Aug 2002, 07:14 PM
i think hollland will win it. if not them maybe england. but in response to Ethel the Frog, why do u make it sound like Davids will be out? i believe he will only be 31 in 2004....

Eisern Union
23 Aug 2002, 10:42 AM
2004 is far too far away to make a prediction, and it looks wide open anyway. Germany will benefit from an easy qualification group, though. Scotland as the #2 team is in turmoil (I could easily see them finishing 3rd or 4th) and Iceland is a dangerous team, but won't really challenge Germany. Much easier draw than England and Finland for the WC.

olafgb
23 Aug 2002, 10:55 AM
I think an EC is very hard to predict. There's hardly any team making the final tournament that's without chances to win the title.

Ethel The Frog
23 Aug 2002, 12:42 PM
You are right that I may have written Davids off too early. But I am more curious as to whether there is another national team enforcer competing for the position. Now that Dutch league football is not available on FSW in the US anymore, I won't be able to see many games. (I am psyched for the Feyenoord match at the end of this month).

I think that given his rough style of play, Davids is probably at his prime now and will have trouble dealing with the big men of football in 2004. For example, I think he would have a tough time with Ballack even today if that were the matchup -- though I would love to watch such a matchup, just as I loved watching him one-on-one against Viera last year in CL (or maybe Thursday league, I can never remember). I hope to see another matchup between those two this year.