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teamwork
21 Oct 2008, 03:28 PM
There are a lot of youngsters coming through the ranks at old trafford, combine that with the young talent we already have, and the next ten years look set for utd domination yet again. Is this our starting lineup in say five years time :

Foster

Rafael Evans cathcart Fabio


Ronaldo Possebon Anderson Nani

Rooney Tevez


and to be honest i would do a subs bench but im not quite sure where certain players are in their development, and how their expectation is, so maybe there are some other people who know the academy/and reserves better than me, so i will leave the subs bench or additions to the starting lineup to them.

Invincible
21 Oct 2008, 03:40 PM
I'll take a wild stab in the dark here.

----------------Foster
-Rafael-----Evans------?------?

----------Possebon--
------------------Anderson
-----Nani-------Rooney------Welbeck
---------------Macheda

bestbecks
21 Oct 2008, 03:45 PM
We'll need more steel in the midddle if we want to be able to dominate. Possebon is obviously a future starter, but I'm not sure if he's the type to throw in some hard tackles. The team proposed in the opening post would be a good team to field in Europe though. Of course, there is still the issue of a #9 to address.

michael24710
21 Oct 2008, 03:46 PM
hehehe its a nice idea, but in 5 years id expect at least 3/4 signings... no matter how good a side is, people will move on and things need to be freshened up...

Of our youths i imagine only 1/2 will have a top chance of being a first eleven player with us for a large part of their career. Anyways still a fun thread :)

P.S cant we like continually clone Rio so his at the heart of our defence forever :p

dru_jones
21 Oct 2008, 04:39 PM
There are a lot of youngsters coming through the ranks at old trafford, combine that with the young talent we already have, and the next ten years look set for utd domination yet again. Is this our starting lineup in say five years time :

Foster

Rafael Evans cathcart Fabio


Ronaldo Possebon Anderson Nani

Rooney Tevez


and to be honest i would do a subs bench but im not quite sure where certain players are in their development, and how their expectation is, so maybe there are some other people who know the academy/and reserves better than me, so i will leave the subs bench or additions to the starting lineup to them.

Ronaldo?! We'd be lucky if he's still at United by the start of next season. And Tevez is looking like a doubt, too.

Is Cathcart a different type of CB compared to Evans?

Republic of Mancunia
21 Oct 2008, 04:41 PM
We're not going to buy anyone in that time?

Fcuking Glazer.

Newton Heath
21 Oct 2008, 09:33 PM
We're not going to buy anyone in that time?

Fcuking Glazer.
lol :D

I'd still expect Vidic, Evra and Carrick to be starting for us in 5 years, they'll all be 32. Maybe even Rio, he'll be 35 by then, but I think he can easily play into his late 30's Maldini style ;)

But then I'm probably taking all the fun away from the thread, so i guess its ok to make some line-ups without them.

433tom
21 Oct 2008, 09:50 PM
We'll need more steel in the midddle if we want to be able to dominate. Possebon is obviously a future starter, but I'm not sure if he's the type to throw in some hard tackles. The team proposed in the opening post would be a good team to field in Europe though. Of course, there is still the issue of a #9 to address.


From what I have seen, he has actually been quite physical and not afraid to get stuck in.

Numquam Moribimur
21 Oct 2008, 10:26 PM
We're not going to buy anyone in that time?

Fcuking Glazer.

Agreed

******** the Glazers !!!!:D

marakana11
22 Oct 2008, 04:38 AM
There is a player currently on trial at Manchester United...

his name is Adam Ljajic, and he is 17 from Partizan Belgrade.

During this past month's Euro U19 qualifiers, which happen every two years instead of four, Ljajic impressed massively.

In Northern Ireland, where their group was decided, Serbia beat Northern Ireland 3-1, Albania 5-0, and England 4-1.

He is considered by most Serbs as one of the potential "attacking midfielders" that we keep generating. He is very explosive.. He has already made Champions League qualifying appearances for Partizan this season, and will probably feature against Sampdoria, Stuttgart, Standard Liege, and Sevilla in the Uefa Cup..

I suggest you keep an eye on this kid. He could become something, and if Ferguson signs him, then he could be onto something. Plus knowing that Vidic is at United could only help him settle.

Not to showoff or anything, but you can expect possibly United giving more trials to Serbs as our youth teams are slowly becoming the best in Europe. Our U21's have made back to back finals losing to Holland in the final in 2007, and Italy in 2005.

Our U19's lost in the semifinal of the Euro last year, and this year totally demoralized England.

And our U17's are our most promising generation yet.. we have a couple of players namely Filip Djuricic who is being touted as the next big thing.

I know it's a little early to be talking about this, but keep an eye on this space. Plus with Vidic there he can only guide Ferguson in his choices.

marakana11
22 Oct 2008, 05:02 AM
And just so my story is credible...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_4344447,00.html

cr7torossi
22 Oct 2008, 05:44 AM
And just so my story is credible...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_4344447,00.html

We knew about this story before. We were looking at Daniel Aleksic sometime back, what do you make of him?

Dark Savante
22 Oct 2008, 07:02 AM
There are a lot of youngsters coming through the ranks at old trafford, combine that with the young talent we already have, and the next ten years look set for utd domination yet again. Is this our starting lineup in say five years time :

Foster

Rafael Evans cathcart Fabio


Ronaldo Possebon Anderson Nani

Rooney Tevez




Erm, In five years time Fergie most likely won't be here, and if Citeh and Chelsea are still being bank-rolled and we've not transitioned from old manager to new one very well, it could be a long time before we're champions again, let alone dominant.

As for those names, in five years time, things being relative, we'll have bought half of a new xi.

Sorry to be skeptical and somewhat negative, but football is not what it was and plotting a 5-10 year course in this day and age is impossible.

Jakker27
22 Oct 2008, 07:25 AM
I think the future is bright - if it's in the right hands. The good thing is we plan in advance. We have good potential. As a club we're expanding our network

So there is no market that we cannot be part of.

We've also a lot of potential in terms of home grown players

But five years is a long time in life, never mind football. What we have now is pretty special and I think most people that if we can maintain what we have then we'll take some stopping

Vermont Red
22 Oct 2008, 09:38 AM
I think it'd be interesting to see what the starting XI was in the 2003-04 season and compare that to now.

Howard
G. Neville
Ferdinand (pre-missed drug test)
Silvestre
O'Shea
Fletcher
Keane
Scholes
P. Neville
Giggs
Van Nistelrooy

Only two of those players are still unquestioned starters.

Drae
22 Oct 2008, 10:11 AM
Obviously its very hard to predict who from our academy / reserves team will be first team starters in five years.

We do have a number of young first team players who could well be first team starters if they stick around (in some cases, thats a big if). Foster, Evans, Rooney, Tevez, Anderson, and Nani could all potentially play for the first team in five years time.

Erm, In five years time Fergie most likely won't be here, and if Citeh and Chelsea are still being bank-rolled and we've not transitioned from old manager to new one very well, it could be a long time before we're champions again, let alone dominant.

I would never pretend that when we lose Sir Alex it will be anything other than a huge loss.

But the fundamentals will remain unchanged. Barring a Glazer meltdown sale, or a large transfer of Glazer debt to the club, we will still be one of the strongest / largest clubs financially, and will have significant purchasing power. We will of course still be one of the biggest brands in world football. We will continue to have a strong academy / youth poaching program.

In order for us to remain competitive (I agree dominant will be beyond us) the new manager simply needs to be competent, and utilize the advantages the size of our club brings. I would be surprised if we did not mount title challenges, decent finishes in the FA cup, and respectable CL finishes most of the time.

pgr17
22 Oct 2008, 10:12 AM
Erm, In five years time Fergie most likely won't be here, and if Citeh and Chelsea are still being bank-rolled and we've not transitioned from old manager to new one very well, it could be a long time before we're champions again, let alone dominant.

man what a sad but potentially true thought...

Achtung
22 Oct 2008, 11:22 AM
If we have two homegrown players in the first team in five years time, I'll be surprised. And that's using a very liberal, Arsenal-esque definition of homegrown too.

marakana11
22 Oct 2008, 05:25 PM
We knew about this story before. We were looking at Daniel Aleksic sometime back, what do you make of him?

Aleksic is a great player who likes to feed off of the midfield. Honestly, as with all youngsters it is hard to say where and how one will end up... but from our U19's Aleskic has shown the most promise and if he keeps his development up he will go to a large European club some time in the future.

He's made the Vojvodina first team this season, and has scored in big matches such as the one versus Red Star Belgrade. Thus, he is showing that he can play against men at 18 years of age. It remains to be seen if he can do it consistently.

But he was in the U19 Euro team of the tournament, so analyzing him with current 18 and 19 year old's he is definitely one of the brightest prospects. I would sign him if I was Manchester United.. but I'm unsure how he would fit in with the physical nature of the game.

What makes Ljajic so unique is that he is very tall and can dribble, and is explosive, a perfect future fit for the EPL in my opinion.

Aleksic would be better suited to play in Spain.

Dark Savante
22 Oct 2008, 05:35 PM
Obviously its very hard to predict who from our academy / reserves team will be first team starters in five years.

We do have a number of young first team players who could well be first team starters if they stick around (in some cases, thats a big if). Foster, Evans, Rooney, Tevez, Anderson, and Nani could all potentially play for the first team in five years time.



I would never pretend that when we lose Sir Alex it will be anything other than a huge loss.

But the fundamentals will remain unchanged. Barring a Glazer meltdown sale, or a large transfer of Glazer debt to the club, we will still be one of the strongest / largest clubs financially, and will have significant purchasing power. We will of course still be one of the biggest brands in world football. We will continue to have a strong academy / youth poaching program.

In order for us to remain competitive (I agree dominant will be beyond us) the new manager simply needs to be competent, and utilize the advantages the size of our club brings. I would be surprised if we did not mount title challenges, decent finishes in the FA cup, and respectable CL finishes most of the time.

If only it were that easy.

I think there will be an absolutely massive fallout effect when Fergie leaves.

I moan about him a fair bit, but there is no manager on the planet who comes close to having his totalitarian stranglehold on his club, nor is their a man-manager who touches him. We have a lot of troublesome egos here that you don't even notice because none match Fergie's flame or ire.

No-one here dares act up, we get none of that here. If we don't get an extremely strong personality in after the old man, it'll be very interesting to see how all those differing personalities are handled and how he'll justify not giving PT or benching this or that player.