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Sir Martin Keown
06 Jan 2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by OPArsenal
Do you always reverse your position so splendidly?

I think you will find I haven't reversed my position, I still think your a twat, and as mentioned I still believe the Old Trafford brawl(handbags) was worth the bans though there were still harshly treated, read the post PROPERLY before replying, maybe I should write everything in CAPS FOR U WITH S P A C E S B E T W E E N.

billyireland
06 Jan 2004, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
I may of referred to it as a brawl, I know it was just handbags though. I'm not disagreeing with you about the bans, it was a harsh punishment but still worth it to see RVN cower away and that *#*#*# Keane act as peacemaker, most of the Manure players were brickin it (apart from that hardman Ronaldo)I was there to see it and the joy of seeing RVN miss that penalty and the aftermath was something else. Was it really worth it? I mean, it has resulted in ManU being the top team in the Premiership going into the New Year - when they are always unstoppable.

billyireland
06 Jan 2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by OPArsenal
My favorite thing ever about BigSoccer: passing off your own subjective analysis as the fact, the absolute unshakeable gospel. It seems that young William here is an expert at it. Hhhmmm, you seem slightly confused.

I said that the statistics of Arsenal having over double the amount of Red cards that ManU have had since 1995 means something - they are a dirtier team. the fact that we have won 8 out of 11 of the last EPL titles means we have been the better team over that period of time, there's no two ways about it.

I also said that the bans that Arsenal suffered because of the Old Trafford incident have led to a few hiccups in the league, and that has resulted in ManU going top entering the New Year. At the start of the New Year, ManU are well known to be the strongest team in the country. Just look at the last two years and you'll see what I mean.

Finally, I pointed out that was Sir Orangutang had said about all Arsenal players having more fight (because some of them ganged up on Ruud after he had missed the penalty) was not completely true - Freddie and Pires aren't exactly the hardest of characters now, are they?

fianlly, I find it ridiculous tht I am even replying to this post... I believe my opinion to be correct, and you are criticising me for it? Do you really mean to tell me that outside of Bigsoccer it is rare to find people who think their opinion is correct? Get your head out of your ass, please.

Sir Martin Keown
07 Jan 2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by billyireland
Was it really worth it? I mean, it has resulted in ManU being the top team in the Premiership going into the New Year - when they are always unstoppable.

I disagree about this Manure belief that the bans have directly resulted in Arsenal being replaced by Manure at the top of the league. It's purely the nature of this league, one week were top, the next Chelsea now Manure, one point lead is *#*#*#*# all.

If you had seen the games that Lauren and Keown were banned for you would of seen Toure doing a great job at right back (better than Lauren) and Cygan was solid at the back. They dropped points to Fulham where Van de sar was the undoubted man of the match, Leicester got a lucky late goal and Bolton deserved at the least the draw. We still haven't lost and your scum and Chelski still have to visit Highbury.

OPArsenal
07 Jan 2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
I disagree about this Manure belief that the bans have directly resulted in Arsenal being replaced by Manure at the top of the league. It's purely the nature of this league, one week were top, the next Chelsea now Manure, one point lead is *#*#*#*# all.

If you had seen the games that Lauren and Keown were banned for you would of seen Toure doing a great job at right back (better than Lauren) and Cygan was solid at the back. They dropped points to Fulham where Van de sar was the undoubted man of the match, Leicester got a lucky late goal and Bolton deserved at the least the draw. We still haven't lost and your scum and Chelski still have to visit Highbury. Is right. The only problem here is that Highbury is hardly a fort. Cyganbot was playing very well in the center, but I still have a small heart attack every time he approaches the ball. Toure is a superb footballer and he has been Arsenal's MOTM many times, IMHO.

Sir Martin Keown
07 Jan 2004, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by OPArsenal
Is right. The only problem here is that Highbury is hardly a fort. Cyganbot was playing very well in the center, but I still have a small heart attack every time he approaches the ball. Toure is a superb footballer and he has been Arsenal's MOTM many times, IMHO.

Hooray we agree on something!!, Kolo Toure is a player and is gonna get better, I can see him being a central midfielder in future where he can fully utilise his energy. If I'm right in thinking he has a brother called Yaya who was on trial at Arsenal in pre-season, don't know what come of that.

billyireland
07 Jan 2004, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
I disagree about this Manure belief that the bans have directly resulted in Arsenal being replaced by Manure at the top of the league. It's purely the nature of this league, one week were top, the next Chelsea now Manure, one point lead is *#*#*#*# all.

If you had seen the games that Lauren and Keown were banned for you would of seen Toure doing a great job at right back (better than Lauren) and Cygan was solid at the back. They dropped points to Fulham where Van de sar was the undoubted man of the match, Leicester got a lucky late goal and Bolton deserved at the least the draw. We still haven't lost and your scum and Chelski still have to visit Highbury. One point doesn't mean anything? How many leagues have wound up beign decided by just one point? I don't have the number, but the answer is a lot.

I will agree with you on one thing - Toure is a top player.

Sir Martin Keown
07 Jan 2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by billyireland
One point doesn't mean anything? How many leagues have wound up beign decided by just one point? I don't have the number, but the answer is a lot.

I will agree with you on one thing - Toure is a top player.

Well congratulations on being top in January, I can't believe you seem to think you've won it, what a doughnut!!!

billyireland
07 Jan 2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
Well congratulations on being top in January, I can't believe you seem to think you've won it, what a doughnut!!! I'd like a quote where I said we have wo nthis years English Premiership. And if you could accompany it with the area of England you live in (and not just some stereotypical slang) I would appreciate it very much.

billyireland
07 Jan 2004, 06:08 PM
By the way, it's now 3 points, not 1... and 7 for Chelski fans

yossarian
07 Jan 2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
Hooray we agree on something!!, Kolo Toure is a player and is gonna get better, I can see him being a central midfielder in future where he can fully utilise his energy. If I'm right in thinking he has a brother called Yaya who was on trial at Arsenal in pre-season, don't know what come of that.

Actually the Chelsea match was at Highbury, so we have to go to the Bridge in February.
Kolo's brother Yaya just signed with a Ukrainian club I believe.

Sir Martin Keown
08 Jan 2004, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by billyireland
By the way, it's now 3 points, not 1... and 7 for Chelski fans

cheers Billy, as informative as ever. You have surely won it now, we might as well throw the towel in.

OPArsenal
08 Jan 2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
Hooray we agree on something!!, Kolo Toure is a player and is gonna get better, I can see him being a central midfielder in future where he can fully utilise his energy. If I'm right in thinking he has a brother called Yaya who was on trial at Arsenal in pre-season, don't know what come of that. Yaya did, in fact sign with a Ukrainian club, but I remember there being something about a work visa that was getting in the way of his playing for the AFC. He will be a great one though. He is next to unbeatable in the air, and he would be a great middie compliment to Henry. By the way, there's no official news about KT28's leaving the match, but Wenger said, "It looks like a bad kick, we hope nothing's broken." The quote is in this Beeb match report. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/3378329.stm) By the way, the Mirror are saying that Arsenal's title hopes are in jeopardy. (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/sporttop/content_objectid=13792262_method=full_siteid=50143_headline=-GUNNERS%2D%2DCHALLENGE%2DON%2DROCKS%2D-name_page.html) William, do you work for them? :D

OPArsenal
08 Jan 2004, 08:39 AM
Here's the article from Arsenal-Mania about how Yaya's going to the cold places. (http://www.arsenal-mania.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1073495001&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&) He'll be back, and hopefully in the red and white...

billyireland
08 Jan 2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
cheers Billy, as informative as ever. You have surely won it now, we might as well throw the towel in. Orangutang, ignorant as ever! Let me repeat myself:


I'd like a quote where I said we have won this years English Premiership.


What I predicted was that in the near future (e.g. the next 4-6 weeks) the gulf between ManU and Arsenal/Chelsea will only grow, and last night proved me 100% correct thus far, since we moved 2 more points clear of Arsenal and 3 more points clear of Chelsea.

Once more, please please please quote me if I ever said that ManU has won this years' Premiership already.

Sir Martin Keown
09 Jan 2004, 04:08 AM
[i] ManU has won this years' Premiership already. [/B]

I quote

billyireland
09 Jan 2004, 12:19 PM
Actually, you tool, here's that full sentence:

Originally posted by billyireland

Once more, please please please quote me if I ever said that ManU has won this years' Premiership already.

What are you going to do next? Repeat everything I say? You're beaten, just admit it.

By the way, please don't just quote this post to actually copy what I say. It won't be funny to anybody over the age of 12 and will only serve to make you look even more pathetic.

Sir Martin Keown
09 Jan 2004, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by billyireland
Actually, you tool, here's that full sentence:



What are you going to do next? Repeat everything I say? You're beaten, just admit it.

By the way, please don't just quote this post to actually copy what I say. It won't be funny to anybody over the age of 12 and will only serve to make you look even more pathetic.

I can't believe you even replied to that one, you really are a complete knobjockey

billyireland
09 Jan 2004, 01:06 PM
Yes, I should have just shut up and let the average person reading the thread think I actually hadsaid ManU had already won the title.

Motterman
09 Jan 2004, 01:25 PM
It's actually poor form to make up a quote and attribute it to somebody.

(Editting what they actually wrote for humour is a bit different, the key there of course being that it should be funny, at the very least.)