Arsenal v. Scum [R]

[phishy]

motterman.. give us something new please..
tut tut

[Motterman]

Originally posted by phishy
motterman.. give us something new please..
tut tut

OK.

I was just stirring things up a bit. :D

[Sir Martin Keown]

Originally posted by Motterman
1995/96 Arsenal 62 Yellows 2 Reds United 53 Yellows 3 Reds
1996/97 Arsenal 81 Yellows 5 Reds United 56 Yellows 1 Red
1997/98 Arsenal 57 Yellows 2 Reds United 62 Yellows 1 Red
1998.99 Arsenal 65 Yellows 7 Reds United 58 Yellows 3 Reds
1999/20 Arsenal 69 Yellows 5 Reds United 43 Yellows 4 Reds
2000/01 Arsenal 75 Yellows 6 Reds United 53 Yellows 1 Red
2002/03 Arsenal 55 Yellows 3 Reds United 45 Yellows 1 Red

Total since 1995: 464 Yellows, 30 Reds

United totals same period : 370 Yellows, 14 Reds

That doesn't mean a thing, except Manure are a bunch of *#*#*#*#. The old trafford brawl was worth every penny of the fine and every ban, just shows the Arsenal have more fight. To be an Arsenal player u need a bit of fight, if they didn't have it they would be mixing it with the likes of Spurs

[Motterman]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
That doesn't mean a thing

"Facts" don't mean a thing to Gooners?

I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

Have more fight, eh?

Lehmann's already getting into the act. Must be something in the water at Highbury...

[minorthreat]

Originally posted by Seedorf
I like to use a little more of an important stat when trash talking. How about total EPL championships in the last 10 years? I think thats a little more meaningful way to piss of Gunner fans.
But remember, there's always one thing that Man U, Gunners and Leeds fans have in common:
WE ALL HATE CHELSKI!! Now, what we have here is a classic example of someone buying way too much into hype. Although, he IS a Leeds fan, so I shouldn't be all that surprised.

Hate Chelsea? Up until this year nobody really paid all that much attention to Chelsea except to laugh at them. I mean, if you want to jump on the backlash bandwagon now that they've got a rich owner, that's one thing, but to suggest that 'everyone' has always hated Chelsea is simply silly. Cause really, historically nobody's really bothered to hate Chelsea. Except... heh... QPR.

[Clan]

Originally posted by C-towner
Now, what we have here is a classic example of someone buying way too much into hype. Although, he IS a Leeds fan, so I shouldn't be all that surprised.

Hate Chelsea? Up until this year nobody really paid all that much attention to Chelsea except to laugh at them. I mean, if you want to jump on the backlash bandwagon now that they've got a rich owner, that's one thing, but to suggest that 'everyone' has always hated Chelsea is simply silly. Cause really, historically nobody's really bothered to hate Chelsea. Except... heh... QPR.

Really?
For as long as i can remember Chelsea were always one of the more hated teams in the capital.From the time of when Chelsea went "Mod" in the 60s, through the good years of the early 70's, throught the hooligan years of the 80's, the right wing attachment of C18 in the early 90's, plus, least we forget, the everpresent open mouth insert foot policy of cuddly Ken, it has always been in vogue to hate Chelsea.

Really though, what i do find funny is Americans posting on the topic at all, especially glory hunter ones!

[phishy]

Originally posted by Clanblue

Really though, what i do find funny is Americans posting on the topic at all, especially glory hunter ones!


how come? are they not intelligent enough to post?

[Motterman]

Originally posted by phishy
how come? are they not intelligent enough to post?

We weren't born or didn't grow up in England so we have no capacity to understand how traumatic it is to be relegated, being mugged for wearing the wrong colours at a footie match, or for engaging in any serious discussion about historical happenings in English football (mostly just because we weren't there).

"You just don't get it" is my favourite Matt Clarkism.

[phishy]

believe me.. tongue was firmly planted in cheek... i see more of this nonsense on these boards then i do in real life... in fact, most british people are amazed i know about football and enjoy a conversation.. its odd that on these boards, people pass judgement on you if you are an american.. well, its not that way in staffs!!!

cant we all just get along~~ lol

[Clan]

Originally posted by phishy
believe me.. tongue was firmly planted in cheek... i see more of this nonsense on these boards then i do in real life... in fact, most british people are amazed i know about football and enjoy a conversation.. its odd that on these boards, people pass judgement on you if you are an american.. well, its not that way in staffs!!!


It's the passing of judgement that got me irked to respond.Don't know him/her, never met and probably never will, but, i see an American probably from Chicago who for whatever reason has seen fit to latch onto a team about 6,000+ miles from Chi-town to "support".

Now, what i then see, is this poster, posing as a "madrid' fan, standing on a podium and saying that a club was laughable because it's history in terms of trophies was not as good as "his".....see where i am going with this.

It has bollock all to do with knowledge of the game, knowledge of what ones team has done/failed to do, or anything like that.I have come across many Americans on boards-not just this one-that have a vast knowledge of the game

If that post was from somebody from Spain/Madrid...or indeed somebody currently living in Madrid, then i could accept/understand it.

If i have any of the above wrong then i apologise.

[billyireland]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
That doesn't mean a thing, except Manure are a bunch of *#*#*#*#. The old trafford brawl was worth every penny of the fine and every ban, just shows the Arsenal have more fight. To be an Arsenal player u need a bit of fight, if they didn't have it they would be mixing it with the likes of Spurs

1. Stats don't mean a thing? Not always, but they do here (as does 8 out of 11).

2. It just shows Arsenal have dirtier players. Was it really worth those bands? Because of them, ManU are on top of the Premier League enterign the new year (when they become unstoppable).

3. A bit of fight? Like the bad boys of continental football, Freddie Ljungberg & Robert Pires?

[OPArsenal]

Originally posted by billyireland
1. Stats don't mean a thing? Not always, but they do here (as does 8 out of 11).

2. It just shows Arsenal have dirtier players. Was it really worth those bands? Because of them, ManU are on top of the Premier League enterign the new year (when they become unstoppable).

3. A bit of fight? Like the bad boys of continental football, Freddie Ljungberg & Robert Pires? My favorite thing ever about BigSoccer: passing off your own subjective analysis as the fact, the absolute unshakeable gospel. It seems that young William here is an expert at it.

[OPArsenal]

Originally posted by phishy
believe me.. tongue was firmly planted in cheek... i see more of this nonsense on these boards then i do in real life... in fact, most british people are amazed i know about football and enjoy a conversation.. its odd that on these boards, people pass judgement on you if you are an american.. well, its not that way in staffs!!!

cant we all just get along~~ lol phishy, we're all just gloryhunters. Ignorant American gloryhunters that have no knowledge of anything except the NFL. Don't you love these bigoted generalizations?

[OPArsenal]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
That doesn't mean a thing, except Manure are a bunch of *#*#*#*#. The old trafford brawl was worth every penny of the fine and every ban, just shows the Arsenal have more fight. To be an Arsenal player u need a bit of fight, if they didn't have it they would be mixing it with the likes of Spurs What?!?!?!? Get over yourself. Were you the Arsenal fan that started the "Petition Arsenal Violence" thing? By the way, what happened at OT was not a brawl, it was fargin' handbags at best.

Originally posted by Motterman
Lehmann's already getting into the act. Must be something in the water at Highbury... Oh, come on, you can't tell me that you didn't know that he was a die-hard T.H.U.G. (fo' lizz-ife!) before the AFC signed him... :D

[Sir Martin Keown]

Originally posted by OPArsenal
What?!?!?!? Get over yourself. Were you the Arsenal fan that started the "Petition Arsenal Violence" thing? By the way, what happened at OT was not a brawl, it was fargin' handbags at best

Why don't u piss off to the Man U forum?

[Motterman]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
Why don't u piss off to the Man U forum?

Monday isn't so bad when you see two Gooners in a flame-fest.

Of course, fighting amongst themselves has probably helped us win a title or two recently as well. :D

[Sir Martin Keown]

Originally posted by Motterman
Monday isn't so bad when you see two Gooners in a flame-fest.

Make that one gooner and one lost soul, I'll leave u to decide whos who

[OPArsenal]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
Why don't u piss off to the Man U forum? Why don't you get a lick of common sense? The BRAWL OF OLD TRAFFORD was just a lot of pushing and screaming, much like what happens on the playgrounds of jr. high schools all across the world. It was nothing, and the penalties given to the Arsenal were unfair. I don't remember what the United players got, so I'm not commenting about those. All that should have been done was a warning (slap on the wrist) to both sides. Bottom line: no blood was shed, no bones were broken, no punches were thrown, so what was the big deal? Moderation and common sense. Obvious marks of a lost soul.

[Sir Martin Keown]

Originally posted by OPArsenal
Why don't you get a lick of common sense? The BRAWL OF OLD TRAFFORD was just a lot of pushing and screaming, much like what happens on the playgrounds of jr. high schools all across the world. It was nothing, and the penalties given to the Arsenal were unfair. I don't remember what the United players got, so I'm not commenting about those. All that should have been done was a warning (slap on the wrist) to both sides. Bottom line: no blood was shed, no bones were broken, no punches were thrown, so what was the big deal? Moderation and common sense. Obvious marks of a lost soul.


I may of referred to it as a brawl, I know it was just handbags though. I'm not disagreeing with you about the bans, it was a harsh punishment but still worth it to see RVN cower away and that *#*#*# Keane act as peacemaker, most of the Manure players were brickin it (apart from that hardman Ronaldo)I was there to see it and the joy of seeing RVN miss that penalty and the aftermath was something else.

[OPArsenal]

Originally posted by Sir Martin Keown
I may of referred to it as a brawl, I know it was just handbags though. I'm not disagreeing with you about the bans, it was a harsh punishment but still worth it to see RVN cower away and that *#*#*# Keane act as peacemaker, most of the Manure players were brickin it (apart from that hardman Ronaldo)I was there to see it and the joy of seeing RVN miss that penalty and the aftermath was something else. Do you always reverse your position so splendidly?