Champions League & UEFA Cup TV info - Oct. 21-23

[socceraction]

Champions League - Matchday #3:

Not going to bother yet with detailed schedule until the weekend. Here is what is confirmed so far:

Tuesday, October 21st:

(LIVE) ESPN2 + TSN: Manchester Utd. - Celtic
(LIVE) ESPN Deportes + TSN2 + RDS: Juventus - Real Madrid (which also means delayed on ESPN Classic at 4pm CST)
(LIVE) Setanta USA/Canada: Zenit - BATE Borisov (early game) + Fenerbahce - Arsenal
(LIVE) Setanta PPV Broadband: Bayern Munich - Fiorentina + FC Porto - Dynamo Kyiv

Rest of the Tuesday games (delayed):
Villarreal - Aalborg (ESPN Deportes)
Bayern Munich - Fiorentina (ESPN Deportes)
FC Porto - Dynamo Kyiv (Setanta USA/Canada)
Steaua - Lyon (???)

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Wednesday, October 22nd:

(LIVE) ESPN2 + TSN: ??? (listed Chelsea - Roma)
(LIVE) ESPN Deportes + TSN2 + RDS: Atletico Madrid - Liverpool (which also means delayed on ESPN Classic at 4pm CST)
(LIVE) Setanta USA/Canada: Chelsea - AS Roma
(LIVE) Setanta PPV Broadband: Inter Milan - Anorthosis F. + Panathinaikos - Werder Bremen + Shakhtar Donetsk - Sporting Lisbon

Rest of the Wednesday games (delayed):

Inter Milan - Anorthosis F. (ESPN Deportes)
Basel - Barcelona (ESPN Deportes)
Panathinaikos - Werder Bremen (Setanta USA/Canada)
Shakhtar Donetsk - Sporting Lisbon (Setanta USA/Canada)
PSV Eindhoven - Marseille (???)
Bordeaux - CFR Cluj (???)

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UEFA Cup - Matchday #1 - Thursday, October 22nd:

Setanta Premium:
Galatasaray - Olympiakos
Hertha Berlin - Benfica

No games scheduled currently on regular Setanta or FSC.....

SA

[corolla]

[quote=socceraction;15985031]
Wednesday, October 22nd:

(LIVE) ESPN2 + TSN: ??? (listed Chelsea - Roma)
(LIVE) ESPN Deportes + TSN2 + RDS: Atletico Madrid - Liverpool (which also means delayed on ESPN Classic at 4pm CST)
(LIVE) Setanta USA/Canada: Chelsea - AS Roma
(LIVE) Setanta PPV Broadband: Inter Milan - Anorthosis F. + Panathinaikos - Werder Bremen + Shakhtar Donetsk - Sporting Lisbon

Rest of the Wednesday games (delayed):

Inter Milan - Anorthosis F. (ESPN Deportes)
Basel - Barcelona (ESPN Deportes)
Panathinaikos - Werder Bremen (Setanta USA/Canada)
Shakhtar Donetsk - Sporting Lisbon (Setanta USA/Canada)
PSV Eindhoven - Marseille (???)
Bordeaux - CFR Cluj (???)

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I think if history has taught us anything it's to expect to see that Basel v. Barcelona game pop up on your screen on either ESPN2 or Classic. Personally I wouldn't be shocked to see the Atl. Madrid-Liverpool be the ESPN2 match and then at 5 on Classic see the Basel v. Barca match. I don't think that Setanta and ESPN can show the same match and Setanta is advertising it.

[JustinC83]

pretty sure espn will probably show Real Madrid/Juventus over Man Utd/Celtic.

[socceraction]

Justin,

Man Utd. - Celtic is 100% sure for ESPN2. The Juve - Real Madrid game is on ESPN Deportes and delayed on ESPN Classic.

SA

[BocaFan]

pretty sure espn will probably show Real Madrid/Juventus over Man Utd/Celtic.

At the expense of decent ratings? Doubt it...

[American Arsenal]

Hey ESPN...you might to showcase Arsenal for once in the CL.

It's not like they play the football that might attract new fans. Oh wait...they do play that kind of football!!

The match vs Fenerbache should be exciting.

[JustinC83]

Justin,

Man Utd. - Celtic is 100% sure for ESPN2. The Juve - Real Madrid game is on ESPN Deportes and delayed on ESPN Classic.

SA

then they take their time updating their tv listings

[Real Corona]

then they take their time updating their tv listings

They always butcher the TV listings. Man United is GUARANTEED airtime. They could be playing an Uzbek team and it would still get top billing.

[socceraction]

Expect only minor changes if any:

All times US Central:


Tuesday, October 21:

11:30am Zenit St. Petersburg - BATE Borisov
............LIVE: ESPN Deportes + Setanta USA
............DELAYED: Setanta USA (10:00pm)

..1:45pm Manchester Utd. - Celtic
............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN
............DELAYED: TSN2 (4:30pm) + ESPN Deportes (6:30pm) + Setanta USA (1:00am Friday)

..1:45pm Juventus - Real Madrid
............LIVE: ESPN Deportes + TSN2 + RDS + espn360.com
............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm) + ESPN Deportes (8:30pm) + RDS (11:00pm) + TSN (11:30pm) + TSN2 (2:30am/next day)

..1:45pm Fenerbahce - Arsenal
............LIVE: Setanta USA/Canada
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (3:45pm) + Setanta Canada (6:45pm) + Setanta USA (7:00pm) + TSN (11:30am/next day) + TSN2 (4:00pm/next day)

..1:45pm Bayern Munich - Fiorentina
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (12 midnight)

..1:45pm FC Porto - Dynamo Kyiv
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: Setanta USA/Canada (5:00pm) + Setanta Canada (8:30pm)

..1:45pm Villarreal - Aalborg
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (12:00pm/Thursday)

..1:45pm Steaua - Lyon
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: None



Wednesday, October 22:

..1:45pm Atletico Madrid - Liverpool
............LIVE: ESPN2 + TSN2 + RDS + espn360.com
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (3:45pm) + TSN (11:00pm) + RDS (11:00pm) + TSN2 (2:00am/next day)

..1:45pm Chelsea - Roma
............LIVE: Setanta USA + TSN
............DELAYED: ESPN Classic (4:00pm) + TSN2 (4:30pm) + ESPN Deportes (6:30pm) + Setanta USA (10:00pm)

..1:45pm Basel - Barcelona
............LIVE: ESPN Deportes
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (8:30pm)

..1:45pm Inter Milan - Anorthosis F.
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: TSN (11:30am/next day) + ESPN Deportes (2:00pm/next day) + TSN2 (2:30pm/next day)

..1:45pm Panathinaikos - Werder Bremen
............LIVE: Setanta Canada
............DELAYED: Setanta USA (4:35pm) + Setanta Canada (6:45pm)

..1:45pm Shakhtar Donetsk - Sporting Lisbon
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: Setanta Canada (5:00pm + 8:30pm) + Setanta USA (7:00pm)

..1:45pm PSV Eindhoven - Marseille
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: ESPN Deportes (12 midnight) + ESPN Deportes (8:00pm/Friday)

..1:45pm Bordeaux - CFR Cluj
............LIVE: None
............DELAYED: None

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UEFA Cup - Matchday 1:

Thursday, October 23:

12:10pm Udinese - Tottenham
..............LIVE: Setanta USA
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (5:30pm) + Setanta Canada (3:00am/next day)

..1:15pm Galatasaray - Olympiakos
..............LIVE: Setanta Premium (AdHoc Channel)
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (3:00pm/next day + 10:45pm/next day) + Setanta Canada (9:00pm/next day)

..1:30pm Hertha Berlin - Benfica
..............LIVE: Setanta Premium (Setanta 2)
..............DELAYED: Setanta Canada (3:00pm/next day) + Setanta USA (9:00pm/next day)

..2:15pm Sporting Braga - Portsmouth
..............LIVE: Setanta USA
..............DELAYED: Setanta USA (7:15pm)

..2:15pm Aston Villa - Ajax
..............LIVE: espn360.com
..............DELAYED: espn360.com (on demand)

SA

[danielmak]

I don't get a lot of complaining that happens on this board about why one game is shown over another because I just assume that the networks know what makes them the most money relative to advertising, licensing fees, and number of viewers. But I am confused by Setanta's heavy focus on Greek and Portugese teams. Can those of you who pay more attention to the TV industry shed some light on this? Is there really that big of a demand by Greek and Portugese expats in the USA or is this a product of buying the rights for multiple markets when one market is dominant (e.g., Greeks in the UK)? I ask because it would seem that the Villa-Ajax game would be a more attractive option than most of the other UEFA Cup games. I have nothing invested in any of the games at this point but as a neutral that game would seem to be the best of the bunch. Take care.

[socceraction]

Daniel,

Going back 10-15 years ago, Setanta was simply a provider of soccer matches to bars and clubs and served the following communities: Scottish, Irish, Portuguese, Greek and Croatian. To this day, there are dozens of cultural clubs, bars and restaurants with BUDs (Big Ugly Dishes) on their roofs and receiving Setanta's signal. To answer your question as to why the Greeks and Portuguese teams are getting heavier focus can be best understood by looking at Setanta's coverage of Rangers and Celtic games from Scotland. They already have a base of customers that purchase these games for their clubs and have been there for well over a decade. That is why to this day, you have the above national team games consistently on their "premium" system that requires a BUD.

From a financial standpoint, I doubt the dollar amounts from the clubs and bars comes even close to the Premiership amounts. But that is why the Premiership is distributed via small dishes and cable systems to have the number of subscribers that make the huge investment into the Premiership proportional to the enormous costs. I would venture to guess that Setanta looks at the 2 distribution channels as two separate entities. The bars and clubs a "small business" venture with their reliable network of bars and clubs; and then there is the "big business" of Setanta USA which is just another niche channel living and dying based on distribution and the much higher costs of the product (aka Premiership).

SA

[socceraction]

Schedule additions:

espn360.com has added:

Tuesday/CL:
Manchester Utd. - Celtic
Fenerbahce - Arsenal

Wednesday/CL:
Basel - Barcelona
Chelsea - Roma

Thursday/UEFA:
CSKA Moscow - Deportivo La Coruna (11am CDT kickoff)

SA

[Megax]

I see from ESPN's own lsitings that they are set to show Liverpool-Athletico Madrid live (espn2) on Wednesday Oct 22nd....with Chelsea-Roma on ESPN Classic delayed at 5pm.

However, my Time Warner Cable (NC) lists Chelsea-Roma as being the live on espn2 game - and a friend of mine with DirecTv says that Chelsea-Roma is listed live there also.

I'm hoping these are cases of local mis-types......but can anyone shed any light on this??

Edit: btw, neither game is listed live on ESPN2 the Big Soccer "On tv" calendar

[danielmak]

I see from ESPN's own lsitings that they are set to show Liverpool-Athletico Madrid live (espn2) on Wednesday Oct 22nd....with Chelsea-Roma on ESPN Classic delayed at 5pm.

However, my Time Warner Cable (NC) lists Chelsea-Roma as being the live on espn2 game - and a friend of mine with DirecTv says that Chelsea-Roma is listed live there also.

I'm hoping these are cases of local mis-types......but can anyone shed any light on this??

Edit: btw, neither game is listed live on ESPN2 the Big Soccer "On tv" calendar

My DirecTV guide says Liverpool is live on ESPN2, Roma is live on Setanta, and Roma is delayed on ESPN classic. Use your manual record function if you are worried about the game(s) not recording and follow the times SA listed in this thread.

[Megax]

My DirecTV guide says Liverpool is live on ESPN2, Roma is live on Setanta, and Roma is delayed on ESPN classic.
Thanks for the "2nd opinion"........seems it's just a hangnail and not an amputation

[Kryptonite]

Derek Rae just said that "many of you around the world will be getting" Atletico Madrid - Liverpool on Wednesday.

4:26 PM Edit - Some of us will also see Roma.

[danielmak]

Derek Rae just said that "many of you around the world will be getting" Atletico Madrid - Liverpool on Wednesday.

4:26 PM Edit - Some of us will also see Roma.

Haven't watched today's matches yet but I can't believe that ESPN would show the same game on ESPN2 and Classic. Just in case, though, I am (and would recommend) just recording both games. And, again, if you are using DirecTV, the manual function is the way to go for the ESPN2 game because sometimes a change in teams listed will result in the program not being recorded, whereas manual will not be affected if the on-screen guide changes.