1899 Hoffenheim 08/09 thread [R]

[footyfan1]

I dont know if he can help win the title. I think they should have gone for a gold nugget. This is there chance., i think they need another one to, just incase this striker doesnt work out

Just watch. This guy can play. He won't put up "Ibisevic-like" numbers, but he will help this team.

[berloha]

Have you seen Sanogo's goal-per-game ratio? If he is not a good-enough replacement for Ibisevic, what kind of signing did you expect?

I would keep it the way Hoffenheim always says. 'Signing young, hungry, new players'.

Falcao from River ! Will it finally come true ?

As an admirer of Argentina football I'd love to have him in Hoffenheim.

And he is totally fitting the profile. He would cost us much more than Eduardo, but if we can help River in hard financial times with that deal.....why not ? :cool::D



edit,

I write that because Falcao has an offer from a German club and kicker.de says that we will get one new player ! I am nervous....and hope the best.

[MetroChile]

Falcao is more often than not injured.
His goalscoring ratio at club level is good to great though he misses about 50% of the games during a season because of his proclivity to get hurt.
My 2 Chilean pesos.
:)

[berloha]

Okay ! :) But he is still young and we are in lack of a player like him.

If he has an offer from a German club than it's Hoffenheim.

Let's wait and see. Sanogo is a poor choice, Falcao would be the real deal. He will not be cheap. I already can hear the people paying 10 milliones or more instead of trusting the own youth players....We can't have it all.

[austinwetherby]

Im a boca fan, and i dont think he would do well. again i rarely see him playing, and river did finish, DEAD LAST. I say take another direction. but river does produce great talent.

[benztown]

I dont know if he can help win the title. I think they should have gone for a gold nugget. This is there chance., i think they need another one to, just incase this striker doesnt work out

Well, maybe you should come down to earth. Hoffenheim isn't a contender for the title, evein if they're #1 at the moment.

If everything works out perfectly, they might have a chance, but that's quite unlikely and Hoffenheim would have never dreamed of being first at half time anyway.

Hoffenheim is working its way from the ground up. They have been quite lucky this season, because every other top team has been $hit so far. But that's nothing to base a championship on. I'm sure they'll win their title eventually, but not this year and probably not next year either. Don't forget, even though they have a lot of money, they're still a rather small team with a young and hopeful squad. It's not impossible for a squad like this to win the titel (just look at Stuttgart 2007) but it's still highly unlikely.

On the positive side, Hoffenheim seems to have made no mistake so far. The team works out great. So there is a lot of hope there. I could see them become the German Arsenal. But even Arsenal has a hard time winning Championships, have they not?

[footyfan1]

Okay ! :) But he is still young and we are in lack of a player like him.

If he has an offer from a German club than it's Hoffenheim.

Let's wait and see. Sanogo is a poor choice, Falcao would be the real deal. He will not be cheap. I already can hear the people paying 10 milliones or more instead of trusting the own youth players....We can't have it all.


Funny. You claim to be a Hoffenheim fan, but the stuff you write reminds me of an arrogant Bayern fan........

And it's pretty damned silly too.

You're like no Hoffenheim fan I know.

This is simple. Hoffenheim apparently wanted a striker with BL experience. No adjustment period, he gets his ass right into training and learns Rangnick's system.

Would Falcao have given you that??? :rolleyes:

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

According to kicker.de (http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/503675/) Hoffenheim is interesting in signing Fabricio,
a 19 years old left back, from Flamengo Rio de Janeiro.

(This transfer stands in connection with Zsolt Loews departure, who joined Mainz)

Well, another player from the region, ... :rolleyes:
... but at least a talent. ;)

[berloha]

Funny. You claim to be a Hoffenheim fan, but the stuff you write reminds me of an arrogant Bayern fan........


http://mainzelsmile.ioff.de/cool/smoke.gif kuhl !


You're like no Hoffenheim fan I know.

....I am very much special, I know.




This is simple. Hoffenheim apparently wanted a striker with BL experience. No adjustment period, he gets his ass right into training and learns Rangnick's system.

Would Falcao have given you that???

I have said no average Bundesliga players for the team, better , to trust the youngster's. Well, it's obvious: Sanogo is the cheapest solution, but not the best from the sport side. I know it, several other fans agree and even Rangnick is still not satisfied with the striker personal situation ! His latest interview can tell you that.

Demba Ba is healthy
Obasi is out for 2,3 weeks
Ibisevic out for the rest of the season
Wellington not good enough for the first team
Herdling, a former Hoffenheim player, a sub
Sanogo, for free, average, 28, very much not Hoffenheim profile.

Falcao on the other side, young, fast, ready to learn and develop. And: He would be someone for the future. There is an offer from a German club. And who else than Hoffenheim is in need of a striker ? Who else would pay 10 millions or more ?


but river does produce great talent.

They do ! If we would get Falcao, the next player I'd have from River would be Buonanotte. I have followed River last season and you have to be honest that everybody performed badly.

River needs money, and Hoffenheim has it. I hope there will be a deal and it will be the start of a great partnership between the clubs.


I could see them become the German Arsenal.

I would agree. I would also say that Hoffenheim (and Bremen, when fit and without injuries) could play in the EPL and I can imagine that they would finish number 8,9.

To win the championship would be amazing, but more interesting is the development of the players: Demba, Eduardo, Obasi, Weis, Salihovic, Beck, Marvin, ...Falcao...;)

[berloha]

According to kicker.de (http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/artikel/503675/) Hoffenheim is interesting in signing Fabricio,
a 19 years old left back, from Flamengo Rio de Janeiro.

(This transfer stands in connection with Zsolt Loews departure, who joined Mainz)

Well, another player from the region, ... :rolleyes:
... but at least a talent. ;)


I welcome every South american player.

So Rangnick said that there will be two transfers: the LV position and the striker position. The countdown is ticking.

2nd of FEB is the end of the transfer period.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

...

Well, another player from the region, ... :rolleyes:
... but at least a talent. ;)

I welcome every South american player.


"The region" (around Hoffenheim) was meant ironical,
because Hopp stated in the past, that he wants to build
the club on talents from their region.

To rule out missinterpretation:
I didn´t want to blame South American players.

[austinwetherby]

the region is way to small to get playerts, to anyone who doesnt know. Hoffenheim is a town of 3,300 people, yes you read it right, smallest professional sports town ever.

[ForeverRed]

the region is way to small to get playerts, to anyone who doesnt know. Hoffenheim is a town of 3,300 people, yes you read it right, smallest professional sports town ever.

I believe the regions around the town are discussed, not only the town's population. Where do you think all their fans come from?

[footyfan1]

"The region" (around Hoffenheim) was meant ironical, because Hopp stated in the past, that he wants to build the club on talents from their region.

To rule out missinterpretation:
I didn´t want to blame South American players.


EE, they have partially built on players from their region.

If you look at the rosters of their amateur and youth teams, there are a great number of players from the region on them.

One of the big reasons VfB Stuttgart fans hate Hoffenheim so is that now, Stuttgart finally does have real competition for the young talent in that area.

Stuttgart is arguably no longer the #1 choice for the best talents in the Rhein/Neckar area.

To try to hold Hoffenheim to that "local players" thing after they've made it this far is bullshit.

Just ask yourself where would Werder be if you limited yourself to players from your region??

Are we going to see these type of comments every time Hoffenheim signs someone from outside the region?

And what's funny, is that even if you look at their professional roster, Hildebrand, Weis, Compper, Jaissle, Beck, and Teber are all originally from that regional area.

Besides Stuttgart, I really can't think of too many 1st Bundesliga clubs who have that many players from their actual region on their professional roster.

[footyfan1]

I believe the regions around the town are discussed, not only the town's population. Where do you think all their fans come from?

Exactly. Most of their "real" fans are from the Heidelberg/Mannheim area.

[ForeverRed]

Exactly. Most of their "real" fans are from the Heidelberg/Mannheim area.

Yup, my friend's uncle, a Bayern fan conveniently enough, lives in Mannheim and he tells me the people there are crazy for Hoffenheim almost to the point of considering it "their" club.

[austinwetherby]

Irequested a subforum in the customer service area, i ask for everyones support. i think thee is enough fans here. as a fan i would like to have diff threads. please

[footyfan1]

Yup, my friend's uncle, a Bayern fan conveniently enough, lives in Mannheim and he tells me the people there are crazy for Hoffenheim almost to the point of considering it "their" club.


FR, where I go later in the message is not directed at you. It's just overall frustration at the way Hoffenheim is perceived.

Response to your comments follows:

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Of course man. I lived in that region for two years and hung out there much longer than that. I have friends all over that area and they've never really had anything of their own on this level.

Until Hoffenheim's rise, except for the home people who supported one of the Mannheim clubs, most real footie fans there supported Bayern, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Bremen, Gladbach, Kaiserslautern or KSC.

TSG Hoffenheim gives them a team from their area they can get behind. I'll tell you this about the fans to ditched the Mannheim clubs. The thing I hate most in football is incompetence. There is no reason on this earth that with the support in the Mannheim area, one of these Mannheim clubs can't be successful. It all comes down to managerial incompetence.

Others who don't like Hoffenheim and the way they've risen always love to bitch about Hopp's money.

What they don't look at is that Hopp has re-built that club from the ground up. If Hopp's money played the role so many love to accuse it of doing, Hoffenheim would have been in the 1st Bundesliga two or three years ago because they would have simply bought everyone else's best players.

But they have built from the ground up. They have largely kept their promise to build on talent from that region.

That doesn't mean they make their professional squad from a Rhein-Neckar all-star team, it means they bring talents in there and build them up.

Most top clubs do that, but if those talents aren't good enough to allow them to compete at the highest level, they bring in outside talent. Everyone does it.

But yet, because a man people just choose to hate once said he would build his club on talent from his region, people hold him to a higher standard and I think that's total bullshit.

One of the main reasons I can't hate Dietmar Hopp is that the man has done something great for HIS REGION. His people.

He could have easily put his money into resurrecting a club such as BVB, Gladbach or Koln. Somewhere that the infastucture (stadium, training grounds, etc.) was already in place and all he had to do was add his money to bring in players to win.

He didn't do that. He chose to build his old tiny club from his hometown. I think that's pretty f#cking commendable myself.

They are ahead of my club too, but I don't sit moaning, bitching and complaining about it. We need to step up our game.

But I guess some are perfectly happy bitching, complaining and hating........

[footyfan1]

Irequested a subforum in the customer service area, i ask for everyones support. i think thee is enough fans here. as a fan i would like to have diff threads. please

Can't support that. Have you noticed that most who post here are supporters of other clubs??

[footyfan1]

I don't see this happening, but who knows......

Part of a blurb from the Manchester Evening News:


BRAZILIAN striker Jo could be on his way out of Eastlands before Monday's transfer deadline.

Surprise Bundesliga leaders Hoffenheim are believed to be weighing up a bid for the £19m man who has failed with City and would be allowed to leave.

The German club are desperately seeking reinforcements after losing their leading marksman Vedad Ibisevic to injury for the rest of the season.


According to speculation at Transfermarkt.de, the price would be about 10M Euros.

I'd rather see them try Sanogo and Wellington than spend 10M on Jo.