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toot86
16 Aug 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
So Davids, Seerdorf, Hasselbaink, Kluivert, Reiziger, Bogarde, van Hoojidonk (sp?), Gullit and Rajkaart are not "officially" black? This is the funniest thing I've read all day. Thank you.

Do you see earnie are you BLIND? Earnie is not that black he is not Wesley Snipes black thats what the sport needs.. Not some Reject Black guy from holland..

They want a American Black "Black" man not

Michael Jackson Black

Black black

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by toot86
Golf-TIger Woods

Football - Jerry Rice .. Or mostly every halfback


Um, Tiger Woods meets your criteria for being "official black" but Earnie Stewart doesn't? Toot, you have a lot to learn about culture.

Also, Jerry Rice is not a halfback.

And there are black Italians...

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 08:46 PM
I'm suprised a few people think this way. It's sad to see.

What about Roy Lassiter, Cobi Jones, Mamadou Diallo etc? Two of them have been MLS leading scorers and big stars in MLS. It doesn't matter what race he is the US needs a huge star.

And even that will not make the sport any popular than others.

This thread is ridiculous.

toot86
16 Aug 2002, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by BrianCappellieri


Um, Tiger Woods meets your criteria for being "official black" but Earnie Stewart doesn't? Toot, you have a lot to learn about culture.

Also, Jerry Rice is not a halfback.

And there are black Italians...

Hey Tiger Woods may be part asian but he looks black enough for me..

But atleast Golf got a Black guy playing it .. And that is the sissiest sport there is.. But yet the american people accept it because A black guy plays it..

But soccer doesnt need half black half white they need FULL BLACK..

Yankees want to see a Black soccer player score goals.. they dont want a sissy looking teen representing USA.. Donovan.. They want someone different.. and the only different that yankees accept is A black guy.. They wont like it if a pakistan guy was playing they wouldnt care if a asian guy was playing ..

skipshady
16 Aug 2002, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by toot86


Do you see earnie are you BLIND? Earnie is not that black he is not Wesley Snipes black thats what the sport needs.. Not some Reject Black guy from holland..

They want a American Black "Black" man not

Michael Jackson Black

Black black Interesting considering most blacks in the United States have some white blood in them.

BTW, ethnically, Earnie Stewart is just as black as Barry Bonds.

And oh, Pakistan is in Asia. Therefore, a Pakistani is Asian.

toot86
16 Aug 2002, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
Interesting considering most blacks in the United States have some white blood in them.

BTW, ethnically, Earnie Stewart is just as black as Barry Bonds.

And oh, Pakistan is in Asia. Therefore, a Pakistani is Asian.

Asian meaning Korean , Japenese

Pakistan meaning Brown skin dark hair but no squinting eyes..

And if you think Earnie stewart and Barry bonds have the same skin complexion your blind..


Barry bonds http://bigleaguers.yahoo.com/mlb/players/3/3918/


Earnie Stewart
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/en/t/t/pl/77535/index.html

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 08:53 PM
Toot, how the hell do you know what "Yankees" want?

You say it like all Americans have European backgrounds. Your ignorance is astounding.

The general public likes stars because of there athletic ability Toot, not because they might be black.

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by toot86
Pakistan meaning Brown skin dark hair but no squinting eyes..


Can you believe this idiot?

BTW, Skip was saying that in terms of race Bonds and Stewart are the 'same.' Their skin tones may be different but they both have some African heritage.

sanariot
16 Aug 2002, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
You mean Fabio Liverani?

Damn, you beat me to it!!

toot86
16 Aug 2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by BrianCappellieri


Can you believe this idiot?

BTW, Skip was saying that in terms of race Bonds and Stewart are the 'same.' Their skin tones may be different but they both have some African heritage.

Look i dont care about heritage.. I know there are Black Mexicans Black Cubans.. Blacks that dont even know what HIp hop is.. Blacks that dont Speak english..

But .. Just being black "not african just black"

When i say you have big ears i dont care where you are from you just have big ears..

Blacks make the sport more welcoming to everyone .. They add variety to the sport and just face it YANKEES LIKE TO SEE BLACK GUYS PLAYING SPORTS AND BEING GOOD AT THEM..

IAM SORRY if the truth hurts like me saying GIRLS LIKE GOOD LOOKING GUYS.. Brian might say well no they really care about personallity but the truth is Your hot you got .. Your not you dont got ..

Personally is a plus but the truth is they like good looking guys .. the truth hurts

And Americans like to see Blacks excell in sports it makes it a universal sport..

sanariot
16 Aug 2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by toot86
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Hockey is a good sport yet it doesnt have black stars why do you think its not as popular..

Funny, but I thought Jarome Iginla lead the NHL in scoring. I know, I know, he's Canadian, so he's not really black, right?

Kaiser
16 Aug 2002, 09:04 PM
And the why is NASCAR so popular?

Golf was always popular even before Tiger, in fact Tioger Woods is hurting golf because he is too good No one else matters No one can compete with him

Womens tennis si popular because there is great competition right now, buyt people are turned off when its venus vs. serena because the mathch is FIXED and people want real conpetition

Sports needs competition a champion needs an adversary like Ali vs. Frazier, like Cowboys vs. Steelers in the 70's MLS needs anotherr star and a gresat team to go against Landon and SJ unfortuately beasley is not chicagos star Novak is doesn't matter the color

A healthy Mathis may be the answer Hes different from donovan, plays in NY and can carry his team

this is what mls needs especially if there's a baseball strike Mathis vs. Donovan in the MLS Cup Both SI cover boys, different personalities, east coast west coast etc.

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 09:05 PM
Toot, are you under the impression that all Americans are white except for star atheletes?

Just being black "not african just black"
What is that suppose to mean?

IAM SORRY if the truth hurts like me saying GIRLS LIKE GOOD LOOKING GUYS.. Brian might say well no they really care about personallity but the truth is Your hot you got .. Your not you dont got ..
I couldn't think of a better analogy myself, Toot. :D

Blacks that dont Speak english
I'm pretty sure Cobi Jones and Roy Lassiter speak English...

toot86
16 Aug 2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Astorian


Funny, but I thought Jarome Iginla lead the NHL in scoring.

He is not black black .. Either he is mixed i hate that..
pLUS DONT get me wrong hockey does get attention by espn but he is not doing commercials or anything like that.

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Kaiser
this is what mls needs especially if there's a baseball strike Mathis vs. Donovan in the MLS Cup Both SI cover boys, different personalities, east coast west coast etc.

No, we don't. Baseball and (American) football fans will not be watching the MLS Cup, strike or no strike.

toot86
16 Aug 2002, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Kaiser
And the why is NASCAR so popular?

Golf was always popular even before Tiger, in fact Tioger Woods is hurting golf because he is too good No one else matters No one can compete with him

Womens tennis si popular because there is great competition right now, buyt people are turned off when its venus vs. serena because the mathch is FIXED and people want real conpetition

Sports needs competition a champion needs an adversary like Ali vs. Frazier, like Cowboys vs. Steelers in the 70's MLS needs anotherr star and a gresat team to go against Landon and SJ unfortuately beasley is not chicagos star Novak is doesn't matter the color

A healthy Mathis may be the answer Hes different from donovan, plays in NY and can carry his team

this is what mls needs especially if there's a baseball strike Mathis vs. Donovan in the MLS Cup Both SI cover boys, different personalities, east coast west coast etc.



NASCAR IS NASCAR.. the only thing you need there is a car.. Dont compare nascar with any sports pleaseeee...

You cant even see the person driving the car just the ads and thats all people care about if the car looks good ...

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 09:09 PM
He is not black black
What is "black black?" You need to elaborate a little more.

Either he is mixed i hate
You're against people of different races having children? If you are, you're a racist.

BrianCappellieri
16 Aug 2002, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by toot86
NASCAR IS NASCAR.. the only thing you need there is a car.. Dont compare nascar with any sports pleaseeee...

You cant even see the person driving the car just the ads and thats all people care about if the car looks good ...

People watch NASCAR because it says Home Depot on the hood? I never knew that. :)

lion
16 Aug 2002, 09:13 PM
Toot,

To some extent I agree with you. Many whites (primarily males) in this country tend to "feel comfortable" with idolizing black superstar athletes.

In past generations, black athletes were subjected to a lot of harassment -- just witness the hostility that Hank Aaron had to face when he broke Babe Ruth's home run record. However, that was nearly a generation ago (26 years, to be precise).

Today's society is different and now whites think it is cool to idolize and deify outstanding black athletes. Most major sports (including golf) have blacks at the top of the talent ladder -- hockey and men's tennis being the notable exceptions.

Soccer in this country has mostly white stars, and I think having blacks as the sport's stars par excellence may help boost soccer's popularity somewhat amongst whites (again, primarily males) -- but not to the extent that you envisage.

skipshady
16 Aug 2002, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by toot86
Asian meaning Korean , Japenese

Pakistan meaning Brown skin dark hair but no squinting eyes.. You mean my eyes are supposed to be squinting? :eek:

Man, my parents and my ancestors will be so ashamed of me when they find out I've forsaken my Japanese heritage by having fully open eyes. <sob>