Do you like Platini has the head of uefa?

[Messi-ah]

personally, i think he is an arrogant bastard, who refuses to develop the game in the 21st century, goal line technology should be installed, goaline refs or whatever, yet he dreads the idea, he agrees to expand euros to 24 teams, which is a mistake....he thinks he can do whatever he wants..what do you all think??

[mattteo]

Yes, I like him.

[ApproachWithCaution]

I don't like him for these reasons:

1. He's French.
2. He hates England, English football and English people. So i in turn, hate him.
3. His stupid hair annoys me.
4. He has a girls name. Actually this makes me laugh at him, so it's a good thing.
5. He goes on about billionaires in English football ruining the sport. But, i bet you a 100 euros, that if said billionaires were in France, Spain, Italy or Germany, he would laud them as saviors. Basically, i refer you to point 2.
6. As a previous poster has already mentioned, he is stuck in his old ways and refuses to modernize the sport.

In summary; I am not Platini's biggest fan. :cool:

[v00d00daddy]

I think he's a little bit crazy but I like him anyway. He is right about clubs poaching really young players. If they were born, and live, in a country that has a top flight soccer league, leave them alone. There is no reason for any club from Italy, England, Spain, Germany etc. to go after a really young kid who is playing in France.

I also agree with him on the foreign ownership issue in England. It has to stop eventually. It's not good for the game.

With all the money in the EPL how is it that they are reportedly 5 billion in debt? Can anyone explain that to me?

In short, Platinin is a bit nuts but he seems honest.

[RichardL]

With all the money in the EPL how is it that they are reportedly 5 billion in debt? Can anyone explain that to me?.
Mainly the big 4 I believe. One is a genuine reckless spender, but the other 3 have managed (and intentional) debt - in Arsenal's case on a loan to build the stadium, and Man Utd and Liverpool (IIRC) having debt due to the way they were bought, with the club being collateral against the loan used to by the clubs.

There's a world of difference between that and racking up huge debts through spending more than you earn.


I think essentially Platini's heart is in the right place, but his ideas come across as being a little too simplistic and not thought through.

[v00d00daddy]

I think essentially Platini's heart is in the right place, but his ideas come across as being a little too simplistic and not thought through.

I totally agree. He's also come out and said he knows a lot about football, in general, but is not to knowledgable on the subtle nuances, and salary structure etc.

[Makandal]

I like him for one and one reason only: he gets the English press mad.


On a serious note, if one thinks Platini makes decisions as the president of UEFA all by himself, I have some flying pigs to sell.

[zippy85]

I like him for one and one reason only: he gets the English press mad.


On a serious note, if one thinks Platini makes decisions as the president of UEFA all by himself, I have some flying pigs to sell.
It's not what he does(nothing) it's what he says which he would usually deside himself, I think.

[Gandalf The Red]

he needs to be shot in the face!




and I dont mean with a gun:eek:

[spleinmuncher]

Michel Platini. I wish there were stronger words than "complete moron."

[johan neeskens]

His ideas aren't so bad but he's a complete and utter hypocrite.

[Duck Manson]

I like him. He doesn't seem like the smartest guy in the world and has some crazy ideas and says alot of dumb shit, but I think he means well. He does seem want what's best for football as a whole. He's desperate to leave behind something that was his. I think that's why he's pushing for the 6+5 and all kinds of echonomic restrictions.

[spleinmuncher]

I like him. He doesn't seem like the smartest guy in the world and has some crazy ideas and says alot of dumb shit, but I think he means well. He does seem want what's best for football as a whole. He's desperate to leave behind something that was his. I think that's why he's pushing for the 6+5 and all kinds of echonomic restrictions.

I think he's more concerned about what's worse for England. Also, meaning well doesn't necessarily mean he's a good head of UEFA - good intentions are hardly the only qualifier. I'm sure he's a nice guy though.

[Duck Manson]

What do you mean he wants what's worse for England? Explain.

[Deise Boy]

I don't like him for these reasons:

1. He's French.
2. He hates England, English football and English people. So i in turn, hate him.
3. His stupid hair annoys me.
4. He has a girls name. Actually this makes me laugh at him, so it's a good thing.
5. He goes on about billionaires in English football ruining the sport. But, i bet you a 100 euros, that if said billionaires were in France, Spain, Italy or Germany, he would laud them as saviors. Basically, i refer you to point 2.
6. As a previous poster has already mentioned, he is stuck in his old ways and refuses to modernize the sport.

In summary; I am not Platini's biggest fan. :cool:
I like him because
1. He's French
2.He hates England.
Nah ! only joking , he was a marvellous footballer but seems to have lost the run of himself in his EUFA role

[spleinmuncher]

What do you mean he wants what's worse for England? Explain.

He clearly has a disdain for the English (this being a gigantic surprise coming from a Frenchman...). I don't think he necessarily wants what's worse for England (using the art of exaggeration on that one), but he definitely seems resentful of England's position at the top of the soccer world.

[Duck Manson]

And you don't think this would happen if it was the... Germans?

[spleinmuncher]

And you don't think this would happen if it was the... Germans?

Do you mean if the head of UEFA was a random German, Platini was a German, or the Germans were on top of the soccer world. If you mean the last one, then yes and no. It would happen, but not to the degree that it does with the English.

[Duck Manson]

Do you mean if the head of UEFA was a random German, Platini was a German, or the Germans were on top of the soccer world. If you mean the last one, then yes and no. It would happen, but not to the degree that it does with the English.In other words, you think Platini doesn't really care if clubs manage their finances or if teams actually have some domestic players, but is just out to get the EPL. That doesn't make sense.

[spleinmuncher]

In other words, you think Platini doesn't really care if clubs manage their finances or if teams actually have some domestic players, but is just out to get the EPL. That doesn't make sense.

Did I say that? Hmm, I reread my posts, and I don't see me saying that.

Before I start: I've noticed that when others have arguments with you, they never end, so this is my last post on the issue - take it for what it is.

That being said, I just think Platini has an anti-England bias, and is way to deep in Blatter's pocket (in terms of influence; I'm not suggesting Platini is corrupt). I think some of his debt proposals are good ideas; but whenever he talks about them, he makes sure to single out English clubs as the source of the problem, as though no other club in Europe has too much debt. Any problem in soccer is portrayed by Platini with more focus on England as both its source and prime instigator.

Secondly, if a club's value exceeds its debt, then there is nothing wrong with debt - since most club debt is accrued when owner's use the club itself as leverage for loans to buy the club, if a club defaults on its debt, it will either be repossessed by the lender, or go into receivership and be sold to another owner (not to suggest that receivership is a good thing). There are mechanisms to deal with debt much more adeptly than UEFA will ever be able to do.