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El CHarro_NEgro....
30 Nov 2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Elizabeth III
Hmmmmm... :rolleyes:......and your point is?

That you are a dumb and the MLS s@#~€

Chizzy
30 Nov 2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by El CHarro_NEgro....
That you are a dumb and the MLS s@#~€


Tsk, tsk, tsk, tsk...


You definitely need some kind of medication on that Tourette Syndrome of yours, and come back with a better and more civilize response.


Cheers.

Khan
30 Nov 2003, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by futbol de primera
Actually I think Campos drove a Porsche back and Luis a Ferrari. Thank you MLS.

...And all he could think was, "Damn, I suck... But at least I'll have a safe and secure job in this half-assed MFL."

Khan
30 Nov 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by futbol de primera
Khan should wait for his league to be all grown up before before he/she goes trash talking other leagues.

...And just imagine how badly Mexican players/La seleccion Mexicana will be b!tch slapped when MLS turns 80!


Wait, I think Luisa just dove again... Better call him up for Mexico!


Cheers!

lond2345
30 Nov 2003, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Elizabeth III
Hmmmmm... :rolleyes:......and your point is?

that the MFL is full of internationals (non mexican) and if you go by logic national team players are the best a country has to offer (we all agree on this)

then he said mls only has "fishy" ruiz as an international for guatemala (lol fishy?)

Chizzy
30 Nov 2003, 03:06 AM
I don't think Ruiz is the only international player playing in MLS.

Saeyddthe
30 Nov 2003, 06:37 AM
Several....Elliot & Nelson, Ralph, Marshall & Williams, and Bo (just off the top of my head)...And several others who don't see first team action...Not to mention MORE than our fair share of recent International retirees, Youth Nationals, and 'second teamers'....

I don't think MLS is 'better' than MFL right now, but it will be in the very near future....MFL has been pretty stagnant for quite a while now, but every single year in MLS there is a marked improvement in talent, and play...Teams are actually developing their own distinctive styles (finally). Player development is accelerating, and working (thank you P-40!). This year I actually witnessed 2 of the worst teams in MLS play a match that I would have turned off the EPL to watch, the passing, tackles, ball control, dribbling, tactics, speed...it was all there...one of the best matches I've seen in any league all year...(Crew vs DC, in midseason..).
I admit I was worried about the future of MLS just 4 or 5 years ago, but I have no doubts now...It's expansion time! We can support 2-4 more teams now, and once they stabilize, 2-4 more, we have a ton of young talent comin' up through the ranks, and even more after them, expansion won't dilute us....We're here to stay....

riverplate
30 Nov 2003, 09:51 AM
For everyone's information, the Mexican League was formed in 1944. This is their 60th year.

Americans have never been great about respecting their elders.

Khan
30 Nov 2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by riverplate
For everyone's information, the Mexican League was formed in 1944. This is their 60th year.

So it's "only 60 years." Mexico's league is still poor, and Mexican players are still weak, lazy, and unprofessional in the main. What does Mexico need, 120 years before they can produce a seleccion of any value?

efren95
30 Nov 2003, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Khan
Mexican football sucks rocks. This is a nation that has a professional league for 75 years or more, and still Mexico is never a threat to do ANYTHING in any international competition.

Has there been even one Mexican player since Sanchez to do anything of note outside Mexico? Has there been even one Mexican player to actually EARN his paycheck in MLS?

Chivas, and all Mexican football, with their whining to refs, diving, and just pure sh!te on the pitch will be a blight to MLS. Let Mexicans enjoy their substandard league and their substandard 'seleccion.'


Cheers!

Being Mexican, my first reaction would be to take offense to your comments.

Unfortunately, being intellectualy HONEST AND OBJECTIVE, there is truth to your words.

MFL is a corrupt organization, full of rotten presidents whose only motive is greed and power.

As far as the players, again, you're right. They behave like prima-donnas, vedettes or "stilletas" whose only dream is to accumulate unbelivable salaries, bonuses and benefits.

There is no correspondent result on the field to so many years of existing league.

And I said it before: The U.S. will become World Champion before Mexico does.

It hurts to say it, but you cannot deny reality...

And, by the way, get rid of your "hate Chivas" campaign. You and your buddies will love them when you start seeing the rivalry effect on MLS...

Khan
30 Nov 2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by efren95
It hurts to say it, but you cannot deny reality...

And, by the way, get rid of your "hate Chivas" campaign. You and your buddies will love them when you start seeing the rivalry effect on MLS...


Efren95, I just don't want to see a good thing [a blossoming MLS] become contaminated with a bad one [MFL]. I have nothing against Mexican people/Mexico, just the type of football down there.

I cringe at the idea of divers and whiners on the pitch, and spit or bags of urine being thrown from the stands. Every time a Mexican team/Seleccion Mexicana comes to Chicago, it's the same, TIRED story: Substandard football, and inappropriate reactions from the fans in the stands. And this is what I forecast to occur once Chivas arrives in MLS.

The net result is that MLS, and American soccer, will together be lessened as a result.


Cheers!

Partizan_fc
30 Nov 2003, 02:03 PM
Chivas MLS Name: San Diego Madres!
(like the baseball team San Diego Padres)
:)

El CHarro_NEgro....
30 Nov 2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Khan
Efren95, I just don't want to see a good thing [a blossoming MLS] become contaminated with a bad one [MFL]. I have nothing against Mexican people/Mexico, just the type of football down there.

I cringe at the idea of divers and whiners on the pitch, and spit or bags of urine being thrown from the stands. Every time a Mexican team/Seleccion Mexicana comes to Chicago, it's the same, TIRED story: Substandard football, and inappropriate reactions from the fans in the stands. And this is what I forecast to occur once Chivas arrives in MLS.

The net result is that MLS, and American soccer, will together be lessened as a result.


Cheers!

Where were urine bags thrown? Aren't you confucing us with Honduras?

Khan
01 Dec 2003, 11:11 AM
Yes, CHarro_NEgro, bags of urine had been thrown. Initially, I thought it was in tribute to the level of soccer played by the Mexicans, but later I discovered it was not. And no, I'm not confuSing you with Honduras. Hondurans actually play with heart and desire.

efren95
01 Dec 2003, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Khan
Yes, CHarro_NEgro, bags of urine had been thrown. Initially, I thought it was in tribute to the level of soccer played by the Mexicans, but later I discovered it was not. And no, I'm not confuSing you with Honduras. Hondurans actually play with heart and desire.

Yes, Khan, once again you're right.

Most of our undocumented Mexican brothers come from the rural areas and their educational (cultural) level is almost zero...

Our civility in Mexico is still that of a third-world social environment.

This is why there are fences at all soccer stadia.

Only in the U.S. (or some European venues) you can have the people without barriers to the playing field...

El CHarro_NEgro....
01 Dec 2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Khan
Yes, CHarro_NEgro, bags of urine had been thrown. Initially, I thought it was in tribute to the level of soccer played by the Mexicans, but later I discovered it was not. And no, I'm not confuSing you with Honduras. Hondurans actually play with heart and desire.

When?

Hecho en Mexico
01 Dec 2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by efren95
Yes, Khan, once again you're right.

Most of our undocumented Mexican brothers come from the rural areas and their educational (cultural) level is almost zero...

Our civility in Mexico is still that of a third-world social environment.

This is why there are fences at all soccer stadia.

Only in the U.S. (or some European venues) you can have the people without barriers to the playing field...
talk about an idiot, estadio jalisco doesnt have any fences.

efren95
04 Dec 2003, 01:41 PM
No wonder you're still clinging to Aztlan.

Virgilius wrote for you when he said:

"Claudite jam rivos, pueri, sat prata biberunt..."

El CHarro_NEgro....
04 Dec 2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by efren95
Yes, Khan, once again you're right.

Most of our undocumented Mexican brothers come from the rural areas and their educational (cultural) level is almost zero...

Our civility in Mexico is still that of a third-world social environment.

This is why there are fences at all soccer stadia.

Only in the U.S. (or some European venues) you can have the people without barriers to the playing field...

At least, our third world fans doesn't leave policemen in coma like the first world ones do.

Policeman in coma after fans rampage (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sport/football/117358.stm)

http://www.SoccerAge.com/en/00/30110.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.com/olympia/stonecold/836/ek2000/4.jpg

El CHarro_NEgro....
04 Dec 2003, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Saeyddthe
MFL has been pretty stagnant for quite a while now..

Stagnant you say? Our foreigners are better than ever. When even have 3 Argentina's first national team players on just one team. Our coaching talent is superior too.