Yanks Abroad: The latest 23 tickets to South Africa

[bshredder]

http://www.yanks-abroad.com/get.php?mode=content&id=4060

They make some good points but also have some glaring omissions.

They fail to mention Danny Szetela as even in consideration. I actually think he will make the team in 2010 if healthy. He seems like a player Bob Bradley will like.

Charlie Davies should be higher on the list.

Marvel Wynne should also be higher on the list.

They mention Cervi but not Chris Setiz as a potential 3rd keeper?

No mention of Michael Orozco.

Robbie Rogers will also be considered over the next 18 months. I can't believe they didn't mention him.

[prowazekii]

Hmmmm, they don't have lil' Bradley as a lock to make the team? :eek: Not sure these guys know what they're talking about.:rolleyes::D

[Barcasox]

Lol for the Mcbride love. Could we really take a 38 year old? Wouldn't that be a step back? We need to move past him.

[TrueCrew]

1) Silly omissions: Buddle, Rogers, Orozco, Bornstein, Marshall, Hejduk, Seitz, and a host of other MLS GK's ahead of Cervi (though BB will never give them the chance: Cannon, Reis, Busch, Hesmer).

2) They rag on our lack of depth at forward, yet they think we take five forwards: Donovan, Ching, Altidore, Cooper, and Johnson. Makes no sense whatsover. No way Johnson makes it.

Other than that, fairly solid. Though I don't for a second think Califf or DeMerit makes it.

[ADUEDUALTIDORE]

Mite as well throw out who i think will be on the roster come 2 years barring injuries

GK
Howard
Guzan
Seitz

RB
Dolo
Wynne

CB
Onyewu
Boca
Orozco- Seems like a bradley type player
Califf-Possibly subotic

LB
Pearce
Spector

LW
Beasley
Rogers

CM
Bradley
Edu
Klejstan
Holden

RM
Dempsey
Donovan
Freddy

FW
Altidore-Will 100 percent start
Davies
Cooper

I believe bradley will come around and give davies and cooper a shot and they will take it.

After doing that there really arent many spots that are wide open I would say FW is, Holden and Rogers, Orozco and Califf but cud be locked up by soumare and subotic, Wynne and Spector the rest I believe barring injury are 100 percent going.

IMO really only 8 field player tickets up for grab

Just cause they are under lm or rm doesnt mean thats where I would plan on playing them just rough estimate.

[bshredder]

Here's my 23 with alternates. And this is how I see it in 2 years. Not if the WC were today.

GK (3)

Howard
Guzan
Seitz

Defenders (8)

Cherundolo
Bocanegra
Onyewu
Pearce
Spector
Wynne
Califf*
Demerit**

Midfielders (8)

Adu
Bradley
Beasley
Dempsey
Edu
Szetela
Rogers
Kljestan

Forwards (4)

Altidore
Donvan
Davies
Cooper

*replaced by Subotic if Subotic declares for the USA. Califf becomes alternate.
** replaced by Bakary Soumary if passport issues are cleared up. Demerit becomes alternate

Alternates: Holden, Feilhaber, J. White, R. Clark, Reis, Orozco, Simek, Convey, Gibbs, Parkhurst

[cpwilson80]

This is the weakest 23 tickets I've read. I usually like this feature as a pulse check, but there is far too little consideration to the depth of the player pool. Additionally, the inclusion of McBride is a ridiculous suggestion.

Realistically, the pool should be 35-40 guys (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14998198&postcount=23). David Yelldell is not one of those players.

[Nerazzuri]

David Yelldell is not one of those players.


It seems like David Yelldell is always included though, even when he was playing with Stuttgarter Kickers.

We're two years away from the cup, and they feel the need to list our goalkeeping depth, all the way down to #8, just to include him. They must be the only people in the world who think they know who the US national team's eighth string 'keeper is. Most of us don't really know who's number three.

And the fact that they pass over several quality MLS keepers, who are seeing regular action, as well as someone like Quentin Westberg, who is A) younger, B) has been part of a European 2nd division side longer, and C) has made several appearances with US youth teams. (For the record, I am not advocating Westberg for the squad, or the list. Simply pointing out some omissions they make, while including Yelldell.)

Yanks abroad are the only people who seem to think Yelldell is on the US radar, let alone worthy of consideration. It makes me think he is related to, or knows someone with y-a, who feels the need to keep propping him up.

[dwsmith1972]

Is it blasphemous for me to suggest that I wouldn't have an issue if Bocanegra and Dempsey weren't on the roster in 2010? The notion that they are "sure things" bothers me a bit, given that they both, despite their experience, have holes in their games. Boca's propensity to boot the ball down the field hurts our attack in my view while Dempsey, despite his ball skills, brings an erratic work ethic and limited speed. I guess with respect to Dempsey it has more to do with him not having a clearly defind position as well as the ascension of other midfielders who in my view make us a more dangerous and versatile team [thinking of Holden, Kljestan in particular].

[dwsmith1972]

I would also add that with respect to Dempsey, I think Beasley brings more to the table consistently and the comparision to Joe Cole is ridiculous.

[Adam Zebrowski]

GK (3)

Howard
Guzan
Seitz

Defenders (8)

Cherundolo
Bocanegra
Onyewu
Pearce
Spector
Wynne
Parkhurst
Demerit

Midfielders (8)

Adu
Bradley
Beasley
Dempsey
Edu
Szetela
Rogers
Kljestan

Forwards (4)

Altidore
Donovan
Davies
Cooper

these are my guys

[DonJuego]

Has anyone seen just how difficult the Hex could be in CONCACAF? Isn't this talk incredibly premature? If the hex has PAN, SLV, CR, & HON -- I don't consider having a plane to SA is a given.

I do expect the US to win. I'm not saying they would not. I'm just saying it would be tough enough that speculation on players for SA is premature.

[Adam Zebrowski]

ah, usa , mexico, honduras are my 3 nations going...

costa rica...please, they are in transition....

el salvador has NO chance...

guatemala or t&t....next to no chance...

4th gets you a play-off with comnebol...

usa and mexico are virtual locks...

honduras a clear choice over costa rica, although honduras does mess up a game here or there

[Clint Eastwood]

Has anyone seen just how difficult the Hex could be in CONCACAF? Isn't this talk incredibly premature? If the hex has PAN, SLV, CR, & HON -- I don't consider having a plane to SA is a given.

I do expect the US to win. I'm not saying they would not. I'm just saying it would be tough enough that speculation on players for SA is premature.

This is BigSoccer. Speculation is what we do. I'm suprised there isn't a 23 tickets to WC14 yet.

My 23:

GK: Howard, Guzan, Seitz

D: Cherundolo, Simek, Spector, Bocanegra, Onyewu, Parkhurst, Pearce, Bornstein

M: Beasley, Rogers, Edu, Bradley, Szetela, Clark, Dempsey, Adu

F: Altidore, Donovan, Cooper, Davies

And there you go.

[mcnaulty21]

Absolute horsesh*t article if you ask me. McBride? Cervi? Keller still on the list? No Seitz?

Y-A has really fallen off.

[aceterp]

Not one of the better "23 tickets to " articles... Cervi.. are you kidding? THe guy is a joke. Plenty of keepers ahead of him. Ommission of Rogers completely is bewildering, as well as a few others possibles in MLS...
McBride..haha that has to be a joke.

[Grumpy in LA]

Has anyone seen just how difficult the Hex could be in CONCACAF? Isn't this talk incredibly premature? If the hex has PAN, SLV, CR, & HON -- I don't consider having a plane to SA is a given.
I feel like BigSoccer might do well to implement an anti-jinx pledge, in which all posters agreed never to discuss the US' future performance in any tournament requiring qualification in anything but the subjunctive and conditional. Or maybe it would be enough to put a header on all USMNT forums reading, "All discussions about the United States' performance in South Africa 2010 (and Brazil 2014, etc.) are meant to be understood as hypothetical discussions of what we would like to see happen given the continued beneficence of the Fates."

The fates, let us remember, are as testy and vindictive as ex-spouses. Or Newcastle fans.

Absolute horsesh*t article if you ask me. McBride? Cervi? Keller still on the list? No Seitz? Y-A has really fallen off.
I wonder if the interwebs have just caught up with them. These days, having rudimentary German and Setanta Sports isn't enough to say something about yanks abroad that most US soccer fans haven't already heard. And, you know, I hear there are yanks abroad who aren't in Europe. It's like there are whole other countries outside of America and Europe, I think, and they even play soccer in some of them (although I guess it's pretty dangerous to play there because if you chase the ball too far you'll fall off the edge of the world into the pit of monstrous wyrms).

[mcadaal]

My 23


GK (3)

Howard
Guzan
Seitz

Defenders (8)

Cherundolo
Bocanegra
Onyewu
Pearce
Orozco (I know, I know..what can I say..I like his style and he's healthy)
Wynne
Subotic (as long as he's going to decide to play for the U.S..If not, Simek and Spector better get healthy)
Demerit

Midfielders (8)

Adu
Bradley
Beasley (If he can't better his recent performances, I'd rather take a Masteroni or possibly a Rogers..I didn't enjoy saying this)
Dempsey
Edu
Szetela
Holden
Kljestan

Forwards (4)

Altidore
Donovan
Davies
Cooper

Rossi (I joke, I joke)


Please don't come to Africa:
1. EJ
2. Twellman
3. Ching
4. Convey
5. Clark
6. McBride
7. Feilhaber
8. Bornstein
9. Parkhurst
10. Cervi

[bshredder]

GK (3)

Howard
Guzan
Seitz

Defenders (8)

Cherundolo
Bocanegra
Onyewu
Pearce
Spector
Wynne
Parkhurst
Demerit

Midfielders (8)

Adu
Bradley
Beasley
Dempsey
Edu
Szetela
Rogers
Kljestan

Forwards (4)

Altidore
Donovan
Davies
Cooper

these are my guys

total copycat

[PhillyQuakesFan]

My 23:

GK - Howard, Guzan, Hahnemann
D - Cherundolo, Spector, Wynne, Pearce, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Demerit, Marshall
MF - Bradley, Clark, Edu, Szetela, Donovan, Adu, Beasley, Rogers, Dempsey
F - Altidore, Cooper, Davies

Alternates: Reis, Hejduk, Califf, Kljestan, Holden, Ching, Johnson