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scmcbride21
17 Sep 2008, 05:38 PM
Ok this is a mock World Cup bid for the U.S. I have game times at 1, 4, and 9p.m. est. Here's why, the 1 and 4 game times would be essential for european markets. the 9 time slot would be great for the americas markets and well as east asian and australian markets because games would then actually be played when people are awake in those countries. No game is before noon local time. In my bid no venue is used in consecutive days. No team plays in the same venue more than once in group play. For round of 16 games every team would have to travel, but winners of the group would not have to travel outside it's group stage region. There are two regions. The east and the west. Here's what my mock world cup and schedule look like. I have selected 12 stadiums. I think it's possible we may be able to convince FIFA into letting us use 15 venues as this would reduce travel and give more cities a chance to host games. My 3 alternate stadiums are: Charlotte, North Carolina (Bank of America Stadium) Nashville, Tennessee (LP Field) and Denver, Colorado (Invesco Field) For times I listed all times using eastern standard time.

STADIUMS
E. Rutherford, New Jersey (New Meadowlands Stadium)
Landover, Maryland (FedEx Field)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Lincoln Financial Field)
Foxbourough, Massachusetts (Gillette Stadium)
Indianapolis, Indiana (Lincoln Financial Field)
Miami Gardens, Florida (Dolphins Stadium)

Chicago, Illinois (Soldier Field)
Los Angeles, California (New LA Stadium)
Arlington, Texas (New Cowboys Stadium)
Houston, Texas (Reliant Stadium)
Glendale, Arizona (U. of Phoenix Stadium)
Seattle, Washington

Group A
USA
Iran
Greece
Cameroon

USA v. Iran Friday 4p.m. @ Landover, Maryland
Greece v. Cameroon Friday 9p.m. @ Foxbourough, Massachusetts

USA v. Greece Wednesday 9p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey
Cameroon v. Iran Thursday 1p.m. @ Indianapolis, Indiana

USA v. Cameroon Tuesday 9p.m. @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Iran v. Greece Tuesday 9p.m. @ Miami Gardens, Florida

Group B
Germany
Ghana
Colombia
Portugal

Germany v. Ghana Saturday 4p.m. @ Arlington, Texas
Colombia v. Portugal Saturday 9p.m. @ Seattle, Washington

Germany v. Colombia Thursday 4p.m. @ Los Angeles, California
Portugal v. Ghana Thursday 9p.m. @ Houston, Texas

Germany v. Portugal Tuesday 4p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois
Ghana v. Colombia Tuesday 4p.m. @ Glendale, Arizona

Group C
England
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Ivory Coast

England v. Russia Saturday 1p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey
Saudi Arabia v. Ivory Coast Sunday 1p.m. @ Indianapolis, Indiana

Ivory Coast v. Russia Friday 1p.m. @ Miami Gardens, Florida
England v. Saudi Arabia Friday 4p.m. @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

England v. Ivory Coast Wednesday 4p.m. @ Landover, Maryland
Russia v. Saudi Arabia Wednesday 4p.m. @ Foxbourough, Massachusetts

Group D
Argentina
Japan
Croatia
Mexico

Croatia v. Mexico Sunday 4p.m. @ Houston, Texas
Argentina v. Japan Sunday 9p.m. @ Los Angeles, California

Argentina v. Croatia Friday 9p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois
Mexico v. Japan Saturday 9p.m. @ Glendale, Arizona

Argentina v. Mexico Wednesday 9p.m. @ Dallas, Texas
Japan v. Croatia Wednesday 9p.m. @ Seattle, Washington

Group E
Italy
Australia
Honduras
Czech Republic

Honduras v. Czech Republic Monday 1p.m. @ Miami Gardens, Florida
Italy v. Australia Monday 4p.m. @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Italy v. Honduras Saturday 1p.m. @ Landover, Maryland
Czech Republic v. Australia 4p.m. @ Foxbourough, Massachusetts

Italy v. Czech Republic Thursday 4p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey
Australia v. Honduras Thursday 4p.m. @ Indianapolis, Indiana

Group F
Brazil
Sweden
Nigeria
Korea Republic

Brazil v. Sweden Monday 9p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois
Nigeria v. Korea Republic Tuesday 9p.m. @ Glendale, Arizona

Korea Republic v. Sweden Sunday 9pm. @ Seattle, Washington
Brazil v. Nigeria Sunday 9p.m. @ Arlington, Texas

Brazil v. Korea Republic Thursday 9p.m. @ Los Angeles, California
Sweden v. Nigeria Thursday 9p.m. @ Houston, Texas

Group G
Spain
Costa Rica
Netherlands
Paraguay

Netherlands v. Paraguay Tuesday 1p.m. @ Foxbourough, Massachusetts
Spain v. Costa Rica Tuesday 4p.m. @ Landover, Maryland

Spain v. Netherlands Sunday 1p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey
Paraguay v. Costa Rica Monday 9p.m. @ Indianapolis, Indiana

Spain v. Paraguay Friday 9p.m. @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Costa Rica v. Netherlands Friday 9p.m. @ Miami Gardens, Florida

Group H
France
Turkey
Uruguay
Egypt

France v. Turkey Wednesday 1p.m. @ Arlington, Texas
Uruguay v. Egypt Wednesday 4p.m. @ Seattle, Washington

Egypt v. Turkey Monday 1p.m. @ Houston, Texas
France v. Uruguay Monday 4p.m. @ Los Angeles, California

France v. Egypt Friday 4p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois
Turkey v. Uruguay 4p.m. @ Glendale, Arizona

Round of 16

A1 v. B2 Saturday 1p.m. @ Foxbourough, Massachusetts
C1 v. D2 Saturday 4p.m. @ Indianapolis, Indiana
D1 v. C2 Sunday 1p.m @ Houston, Texas
B1 v. A2 Sunday 4p.m. @ Los Angeles, California
C1 v. F2 Monday 4p.m. @ Landover, Maryland
G1 v. H2 Monday 9p.m. @ Miami Gardens, Florida
F1 v. E2 Tuesday 4p.m. @ Glendale, Arizona
H1 v. G2 Tuesday 9p.m. @ Seattle, Washington

Quarterfinals

* If this date fell on July 4th I would switch this game time to 1p.m. Giving European a greater viewership and since it's a holiday in America it wouldn't interfere with the normal American workweek. Thus the reason weekday knockout round games are at 4p.m. and 9p.m. instead of 1p.m. and 4p.m. like the weekend.

E1/F2 v. G1/H2 Friday 4p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey
A1/B2 v. C1/D2 Friday 9p.m. @ Philadelphia, Pennsylvania *
B1/A2 v. D1/C2 Saturday 1p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois
F1/E2 v. H1/G2 Saturday 4p.m. @ Arlington, Texas

Semifinals

Tuesday 9p.m. @ Landover, Maryland
Wednesday 9p.m. @ Los Angeles, California

3rd place game

Saturday 9p.m. @ Chicago, Illinois

World Cup Final

Sunday 2:45p.m. @ E. Rutherford, New Jersey

scmcbride21
17 Sep 2008, 06:02 PM
I'm working on a mock world cup bid for England and Portugal/Spain. If someone can help me out with a bid like this for other possible hosts that would be great. For example, Benelux, China, Australia, etc.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 12:51 AM
Okay here is my mock World Cup bid for England. I chose 10 stadiums. 8 of which currently uphold to FIFA standards and the other two have to make minor renovations to reach capacity of 40K. All game times are listed thourgh local time which is GMT. I would have liked to chose the City of Manchester Stadium, but FIFA rules prevent countries to have two different cities with two stadiums. No stadium is used on consecutive days and London will not have no more than one match per day. Also no team will play twice in the same venue during the group stage. Also no team will play in the same venue in consecutive games this includes going from the group stage to the round of 16, to the quarterfinals, etc.

* Stadium Under 40K capacity and must be upgraded.

STADIUMS

London (Wembley Stadium)
Manchester (Old Trafford)
Liverpool (Anfield/New Anfield)
London Emirates Stadium)
Newcastle (St. James Park)
Sunderland (Stadium of Light)
Birmingham (Villa Park)
Leeds (Elland Road)
*Sheffield (Hillsborough Stadium)
* Middlesbrough (Riverside Stadium)

Group A
England
Columbia
Turkey
Saudi Arabia

England v. Columbia Friday 5p.m. @ London, Wembley
Turkey v. Saudi Arabia Friday 8p.m. @ Newcastle

England v. Turkey Wednesday 8p.m. @ Manchester
Saudi Arabia v. Columbia Thursday 2p.m. @ Sunderland

England v. Saudi Arabia Tuesday 8p.m. @ Liverpool
Columbia v. Turkey Tuesday 8p.m. @ Leeds

Group B
Portugal
Honduras
Ivory Coast
Scotland

Ivory Coast v. Scotland 2p.m. @ Birmingham
Portugal v. Honduras Saturday 5p.m. @ Liverpool

Scotland v. Honduras Thursday 5p.m. @ Middlesbrough
Portugal v. Ivory Coast Thursday 8p.m. @ London, Wembley

Portugal v. Scotland Tuesday 3p.m. @ Newcastle
Honduras v. Ivory Coast Tuesday 3p.m. @ Sunderland

Group C
Argentina
Iran
Nigeria
Czech Republic

Argentina v. Iran Saturday 8p.m. @ London, Emirates
Nigeria v. Czech Republic Sunday 2p.m. @ Leeds

Czech Republic v. Iran Friday 2p.m. @ Sheffield
Argentina v. Nigeria Friday 5p.m. @ Newcastle

Argentina v. Czech Republic Wednesday 3p.m. @ Manchester
Iran v. Nigeria Wednesday 3p.m. @ Birmingham

Group D
Germany
Uruguay
Netherlands
Japan

Netherlands v. Japan Sunday 5p.m. @ Sunderland
Germany v. Uruguay Sunday 8p.m. @ Manchester

Germany v. Netherlands Friday 8p.m. @ London, Emirates
Japan v. Uruguay Saturday 2p.m. @ Leeds

Germany v. Japan Wednesday 8.m. @ London, Wembley
Uruguay v. Netherlands Wednesday 8p.m. @ Middlesbrough

Group E
Spain
Korea Republic
Croatia
Cameroon

Spain v. Korea Republic Monday 2p.m. @ London, Wembley
Croatia v. Cameroon Monday 5p.m. @ Middlesbrough

Cameroon v. Korea Republic Saturday 5p.m. @ Sunderland
Spain v. Croatia Saturday 8p.m. @ Liverpool

Spain v. Cameroon Thursday 3p.m. @ London, Emirates
Korea Republic v. Cameroon Thursday 3p.m. @ Newcastle

Group F
Brazil
Ghana
Mexico
Greece

Brazil v. Ghana Monday 8p.m. @ Newcastle
Mexico v. Greece Tuesday 5p.m. @ Sheffield

Greece v. Ghana Sunday 2p.m. @ Birmingham
Brazil v. Mexico Sunday 8p.m. @ Manchester

Brazil v. Greece Thursday 8p.m. @ Liverpool
Ghana v. Mexico Thursday 8p.m. @ Leeds

Group G
France
Australia
Paraguay
Sweden

France v. Australia Tuesday 2p.m. @ London, Emirates
Paraguay v. Sweden Tuesday 8p.m. @ Birmingham

France v. Paraguay Sunday 5p.m. @ London, Wembley
Sweden v. Australia Monday 2p.m. @ Middlesbrough

France v. Sweden Friday 8p.m. @ Sunderland
Australia v. Paraguay Friday 8p.m. @ Sheffield

Group H
Italy
Egypt
Russia
USA

Italy v. Egypt Wednesday 2p.m. @ Liverpool
Russia v. USA Wednesday 5p.m. @ Leeds

USA v. Egypt Monday 5p.m. @ Sheffield
Italy v. Russia Monday 8p.m. @ London, Emirates

Italy v. USA Friday 5p.m. @ Manchester
Egypt v. Russia Friday 5p.m. @ Birmingham

Round of 16
A1 v. B2 Saturday 4p.m. @ London, Wembley
C1 v. D2 Saturday 8p.m. @ Leeds
B1 v. A2 Sunday 4p.m. @ London, Emirates
D1 v. C2 Sunday 8p.m. @ Sunderland
E1 v. F2 Monday 4p.m. @ Manchester
G1 v. H2 Monday 8p.m. @ Newcastle
F1 v. E2 Tuesday 4p.m. @ Birmingham
H1 v. G2 Tuesday 8p.m. @ Liverpool

Quarterfinals

A1/B2 v. C1/D2 Friday 4p.m. @ Manchester
E1/F2 v. G1/H2 Friday 8p.m @ London, Emirates
B1/A2 v. D1/C2 Saturday 4p.m. @ Newcastle
F1/E2 v. H1/G2 Saturday 8p.m. @ London, Wembley

Semifinals

Tuesday 8p.m. @ Liverpool
Wednesday 8p.m. @ Manchester

3rd place game

Saturday 8p.m. @ London, Emirates

World Cup Final

Sunday 7p.m. @ London, Wembley

Excape Goat
18 Sep 2008, 01:12 AM
. My 3 alternate stadiums are: Charlotte, North Carolina (Bank of America Stadium) Nashville, Tennessee (LP Field) and Denver, Colorado (Invesco Field) For times I listed all times using eastern standard time.

STADIUMS
E. Rutherford, New Jersey (New Meadowlands Stadium)
Landover, Maryland (FedEx Field)
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Lincoln Financial Field)
Foxbourough, Massachusetts (Gillette Stadium)
Indianapolis, Indiana (Lincoln Financial Field)
Miami Gardens, Florida (Dolphins Stadium)

Chicago, Illinois (Soldier Field)
Los Angeles, California (New LA Stadium)
Arlington, Texas (New Cowboys Stadium)
Houston, Texas (Reliant Stadium)
Glendale, Arizona (U. of Phoenix Stadium)
Seattle, Washington



No love for Northern California. The Bay Area deserved to be in the mix. It is a bigger market than Arizona, Washington, Indiana , Pennsylvania etc.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 01:51 AM
No love for Northern California. The Bay Area deserved to be in the mix. It is a bigger market than Arizona, Washington, Indiana , Pennsylvania etc.

I would put the Bay Area up in a heartbeat. But the lack of a stadium equipped for holding FIFA World Cup matches and no plans to build one in the future made me shy away from that area in the mock bid I can up with.

almango
18 Sep 2008, 09:46 AM
I'm working on a mock world cup bid for England and Portugal/Spain. If someone can help me out with a bid like this for other possible hosts that would be great. For example, Benelux, China, Australia, etc.

Possible Australian Stadiums

ANZ Stadium (Sydney)
Sydney Football Stadium (Sydney)
Melbourne Cricket Ground (Melbourne)
Telstra Dome (Melbourne)
Suncorp Stadium (Brisbane)
Perth Stadium (Perth) ***
Bruce Stadium (Canberra)*
Hindmarsh Stadium (Adelaide)**
Dairy Farmers Stadium (Townsville)*
Marathon Stadum (Newcastle)*
Skilled Stadium (Gold Coast)*
Bluetongue Stadium (Gosford)*

* Capacity Upgrade needed
** Capacity upgrade or new stadium needed
*** New Stadium in advanced planning stage

I know I've used two Stadiums for both Sydney and Melbourne but both cities have large populations (4M+) and good infrastructure and should have no problems coping with the extra crowds. MCG is the completely oval ground. Telstra Dome and the Perth Stadium will configure close to rectangular for football, and ANZ stadium is completely convertable from oval to rectangular. Its likely that the final will be at ANZ and the opening match at the MCG (although Melbourne residents will violently disagree as they are very parochial - even worse than Scotsmen)

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 11:10 AM
Almango thanks I really do appreciate it. I've been looking into stadiums more for an Iberian, Benelux, and Russian bid. I plan on looking into Australia, China, Japan, Mexico, and Canada today. But thanks for the info now I have a general idea of what I'm looking at.

Excape Goat
18 Sep 2008, 12:03 PM
I would put the Bay Area up in a heartbeat. But the lack of a stadium equipped for holding FIFA World Cup matches and no plans to build one in the future made me shy away from that area in the mock bid I can up with.


If the USA gets the right to host, the Bay Area will at least upgrade the Stanford stadium. I will try to do China in a few minutes.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 12:40 PM
If the USA gets the right to host, the Bay Area will at least upgrade the Stanford stadium. I will try to do China in a few minutes.

I just took a quick look at China and they have about 15 stadiums that could host world cup matches with just a few minor upgrades.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 12:43 PM
The reduction in capacity was a strategic decision by Stanford's Athletics Program to boost season ticket sales and create a more intimate playing atmosphere while sacrificing the ability to host large world-class events, such as the FIFA World Cup or NCAA Football Bowl Games in the future. This is partially the result of San Francisco's failure to secure a bid for the 2012 Olympics, which would have featured a renovated Stanford Stadium as the main Olympic Venue.

Excape Goat
18 Sep 2008, 01:53 PM
I came up with 12 stadiums. I based my selection on the soccer touranment at the Olympic 2008, the Asian Cup 2004 and the Women World Cup 2007. I added Hong Kong and Guangzhou because they are from the richest regions of China, the Pearl River Delta. Hong Kong will get a game due to the poltical situation and its strong GDP. Dalian is a hotbed for soccer and a very nice city. Most of the stadiums probably needs upgrade.

The capacity might not be for soccer matches
5 from North
1) Beijing: Beijing National Stadium(Bird Nest) 80000
2) Tianjin: Olympic Centre Stadium: 60000
3) Dalian: Dailian People's Stadium 55000(perhaps a new stadium)
4) Shenyang: Olympic Sports Center Stadium 60000
5) Jinan: Shandong Sports Center: 43000(a new stadium)

7 from the South
6) Wuhan: Wuhan Stadium: 60000
7) Chengdu: Chengdu Sports Center: 42000
8) Chongqing: Chongqing Olympic Sports Center: 58000
9) Hangzhou: Yellow Dragon Stadium: 50000
10) Shanghai: Shanghai Stadium 65000
11) Hong Kong: a new stadium(HK will get a few games)
12) Guangzhou: Guangdong Olympic Stadium 80000

5 of 7 southern host cities are considered in the middle.

Alternative: Macau(getting to be the place to host foreign teams in China), but needed a new stadium.

R16:Shenyang, Beijing, Tianjing, Dailan, Jinan, Shanghai, Guangzhou, HK,

QF(4 cities in the middle): Hangzhou, Chongqing, Chengdu, Wuhan

SF: Shanghai, Tianjing

Final: Beijing
3d place: Shenyang

MidnightMackemRider
18 Sep 2008, 02:00 PM
The final in New Jesey? no way. It would either be in Los Angelos or D.C.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 02:17 PM
The final in New Jesey? no way. It would either be in Los Angelos or D.C.

East Rutherford is basically New York. A lot of New Yorks major sports teams play in East Rutherford. There is no DC Stadium it's in Landover. And they will put the final on the east coast because they put it on the west coast in94, but Chicago is another possibilty for the final.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 03:43 PM
I came up with 12 stadiums. I based my selection on the soccer touranment at the Olympic 2008, the Asian Cup 2004 and the Women World Cup 2007. I added Hong Kong and Guangzhou because they are from the richest regions of China, the Pearl River Delta. Hong Kong will get a game due to the poltical situation and its strong GDP. Dalian is a hotbed for soccer and a very nice city. Most of the stadiums probably needs upgrade.

The capacity might not be for soccer matches
5 from North
1) Beijing: Beijing National Stadium(Bird Nest) 80000
2) Tianjin: Olympic Centre Stadium: 60000
3) Dalian: Dailian People's Stadium 55000(perhaps a new stadium)
4) Shenyang: Olympic Sports Center Stadium 60000
5) Jinan: Shandong Sports Center: 43000(a new stadium)

7 from the South
6) Wuhan: Wuhan Stadium: 60000
7) Chengdu: Chengdu Sports Center: 42000
8) Chongqing: Chongqing Olympic Sports Center: 58000
9) Hangzhou: Yellow Dragon Stadium: 50000
10) Shanghai: Shanghai Stadium 65000
11) Hong Kong: a new stadium(HK will get a few games)
12) Guangzhou: Guangdong Olympic Stadium 80000

5 of 7 southern host cities are considered in the middle.

Alternative: Macau(getting to be the place to host foreign teams in China), but needed a new stadium.

R16:Shenyang, Beijing, Tianjing, Dailan, Jinan, Shanghai, Guangzhou, HK,

QF(4 cities in the middle): Hangzhou, Chongqing, Chengdu, Wuhan

SF: Shanghai, Tianjing

Final: Beijing
3d place: Shenyang


The only thing I would change from your proposal is I would have Beijing Workers Satdium instead of Chengdu giving 6 in the north and 6 in the south and giving Beijing a total of 2 venues like in a number of bids. This would increase attendance because Workers Stadium is larger and Beijing is a big enough city that it can handle it.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 05:51 PM
Okay here is my mock bid for the Iberian peninsula. I have 6 stadiums in Portugal and 6 in Spain. I would have liked to used Madrid's La Panieta but adhering to FIFA rules only one bid can have the same city having two stadiums. Through research all these upgrades to adhere to over 40k capacity and FIFA standards will all be done by 2018. All game times are used Central European Team. Portugal uses GMT, but for scheduling purposes I posted game times all in CET. Lisbon's two venues are not used on the same day ever and there is atleast one day in between games at any particular venue. Also since this is a two country bid the knockout round format and who plays is different then normal. Spain will always play in Spain unless they reach the 3rd place game and Portugal will always play in Portugal unless they reach the final. Here are the stadiums.

STADIUMS

Portugal
Lisbon, Estadio de Luz
Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede
Porto, Estadio de Dragao
Braga, Estadio de Braga
Faro-Loule, Estadio Algarve
Aveiro, Estadio Municipal de Aviero

Spain
Barcelona, Camp Nou
Madrid, Santiago Bernabeu
Valencia, New Mestalla
Sevilla, Ramon Sanchez Pizjuan
Bilbao, Estadio San Mames
Zaragoza, Nueva Romareda

Group A
Portugal
Russia
Uruguay
Saudi Arabia

Portugal v. Russia Friday 6p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz
Uruguay v. Saudi Arabia Saturday 3p.m. @ Aveiro

Portugal v. Uruguay Wednesday 9p.m. @ Porto
Saudi Arabia v. Russia Thursday 3p.m. @ Braga

Portugal v. Saudi Arabia Tuesday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede
Russia v. Uruguay Tuesday 9p.m. @ Poro-Loule

Group B
Argentina
Netherlands
Japan
Egypt

Japan v. Egypt Sunday 3p.m. @ Bilbao
Argentina v. Netherlands Sunday 9p.m. @ Valencia

Argentina v. Japan Friday 6p.m. @ Madrid
Egypt v. Netherlands Saturday 6p.m. @ Zaragoza

Argentina v. Egypt Wednesday 9p.m. @ Barcelona
Netherlands v. Japan Wednesday 9p.m. @ Sevilla

Group C
France
Colombia
Mexico
Greece

France v. Columbia Saturday 9p.m. @ Porto
Mexico v. Greece Sunday 6p.m. @ Braga

Greece v. Columbia Friday 3p.m. @ Poro-Loule
France v. Mexico Friday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede

France v. Greece Wednesday 4p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz
Columbia v. Mexico Wednesday 4p.m. @ Aveiro

Group D
Brazil
Turkey
Ivory Coast
Korea Republic

Brazil v. Turkey Monday 6p.m. @ Madrid
Ivory Coast v. Korea Republic Tuesday 6p.m. @ Zaragoza

Korea Republic v. Turkey Sunday 3p.m. @ Sevilla
Brazil v. Ivory Coast Sunday 9p.m. @ Barcelona

Brazil v. Korea Republic Thursday 4p.m. @ Valencia
Turkey v. Ivory Coast Thursday 4p.m. @ Bilbao

Group E
Spain
Czech Republic
Australia
Cameroon

Spain v. Czech Republic Friday 9p.m. @ Barcelona
Australia v. Cameroon Saturday 6p.m. @ Sevilla

Cameroon v. Czech Republic Thursday 6p.m. @ Bilbao
Spain v. Australia Thursday 9p.m. @ Valencia

Spain v. Cameroon Tuesday 4p.m. @ Madrid
Czech Republic v. Australia Tuesday 4p.m. @ Zaragoza

Group F
England
Ghana
USA
Scotland

England v. Ghana Monday 3p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede
USA v. Scotland Monday 9p.m. @ Poro-Loule

Scotland v. Ghana Saturday 3p.m. @ Aveiro
England v. USA Saturday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz

England v. Scotland Thursday 9p.m. @ Porto
Ghana v. USA Thursday 9p.m. @ Braga

Group G
Germany
Honduras
Sweden
Paraguay

Sweden v. Paraguay Wednesday 3p.m. @ Sevilla
Germany v. Honduras Wednesday 6p.m. @ Barcelona

Germany v. Sweden Monday 6p.m. @ Valencia
Paraguay v. Honduras Monday 9p.m. @ Bilbao

Germany v. Paraguay Friday 9p.m. @ Madrid
Honduras v. Sweden Friday 9p.m. @ Zaragoza

Group H
Italy
Nigeria
Iran
Croatia

Iran v. Croatia Tuesday 3p.m. @ Aveiro
Italy v. Nigeria Tuesday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz

Italy v. Iran Sunday 6p.m. @ Porto
Croatia v. Nigeria Monday 3p.m. @ Braga

Italy v. Croatia Friday 4p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede
Nigeria v. Iran Friday 4p.m. @ Poro-Loule

Round of 16

B1 v. E2 Saturday 5p.m. @ Bilbao
A1 v. B2 Saturday 9p.m. @ Porto
F1 v. A2 Sunday 5p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz
E1 v. F2 Sunday 9p.m. @ Valencia
D1 v. C2 Monday 5p.m. @ Madrid
C1 v. D2 Monday 9p.m. @ Poro-Loule
H1 v. G2 Tuesday 5p.m. @ Braga
G1 v. H2 Tuesday 9p.m. @ Sevilla

Quarterfinals

QF1- A1/B2 v. C1/D2 Friday 5p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio Jose Alvalede
QF2- B1/E2 v. D1/C2 Friday 9p.m. @ Valencia
QF3- E1/F2 v. G1/H2 Saturday 5p.m. @ Barcelona
QF4- F1/A2 v. H1/G2 Saturday 9p.m. @ Porto

Semifinals

QF1 v. QF4 Tuesday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Estadio de Luz
QF2 v. QF3 Wendesday 9p.m. @ Madrid

3rd place game

Saturday 9p.m. @ Lisbon, Jose Alvalede

World Cup Final

Sunday 8p.m. @ Barcelona

Dwbakke
18 Sep 2008, 06:27 PM
Here’s a Netherlands-Belgium bid. Unlike in Korea and Japan, I have teams playing in both countries in the group stage, because travel between the two is easy and FIFA doesn’t want it split up like it was in 2002.

STADIUMS

Belgium
Brussels – New national stadium, 60,000
Brugge – New stadium, 48,000
Antwerp – new stadium, 50,000
Liege – New stadium, 42,000
Genk – Cristal Arena (expanded) – 45,000
Charleroi – New stadium or expand Stade du Pays de Charleroi– 40,000

Netherlands
Rotterdam – New Kuip, 90,000
Amsterdam – Amsterdam ArenA (expanded), 70,000
Eindhoven – Philips Stadion (expanded), 45,000
Enschede – Arke Stadion (expanded), 40,000
Alkmaar – DSB Stadion (expanded), 40,000
Heerenveen – Abe Lenstra Stadion (expanded), 42,000

Group A
Belgium
Ghana
Saudi Arabia
Croatia

Fri, 1800: BEL-GHA, Brussels
Fri, 2100: KSA-CRO, Enschede

Wed, 2100: BEL-KSA, Brugge
Thu, 1500: CRO-GHA, Alkmaar

Tue, 1700: CRO-BEL, Antwerp
Tue, 1700: GHA-KSA, Heerenveen

Group B
Netherlands
Chile
Australia
Romania

Sat, 2100: NED-CHI, Amsterdam
Sat, 1500: AUS-ROU, Genk

Thu, 1800: NED-AUS, Eindhoven
Thu, 2100: ROU-CHI, Brussels

Tue, 2100: ROU-NED, Rotterdam
Tue, 2100: CHI-AUS, Charleroi

Group C
Germany
Nigeria
Turkey
Honduras

Sat, 1800: GER-NGA, Alkmaar
Sun, 1500: TUR-HON, Brugge

Fri, 1500: GER-TUR, Heerenveen
Fri, 1800: HON-NGA, Antwerp

Wed, 1700: HON-GER, Amsterdam
Wed, 1700: NGA-TUR, Genk

Group D
Italy
Czech Republic
Egypt
South Korea

Sun, 1800: ITA-CZE, Liege
Sun, 2100: EGY-KOR, Eindhoven

Fri, 2100: ITA-EGY, Charleroi
Sat, 1500: KOR-CZE, Rotterdam

Wed, 2100: KOR-ITA, Brugge
Wed, 2100: CZE-EGY, Enschede

Group E
Spain
England
Japan
Ivory Coast

Mon, 1500: ESP-ENG, Rotterdam
Mon, 1800: JPN-CIV, Charleroi

Sat, 1800: ESP-JPN, Enschede
Sat, 2100: CIV-ENG, Brugge

Thu, 1700: CIV-ESP, Eindhoven
Thu, 1700: ENG-JPN, Liege

Group F
Brazil
Scotland
Uruguay
USA

Mon, 2100: BRA-SCO, Antwerp
Tue, 1500: URU-USA, Heerenveen

Sun, 1500: BRA-URU, Genk
Sun, 2100: USA-SCO, Amsterdam

Thu, 2100: USA-BRA, Brussels
Thu, 2100: SCO-URU, Alkmaar

Group G
Argentina
Cameroon
Portugal
Iran

Tue, 1800: ARG-CMR, Genk
Tue, 2100: POR-IRN, Amsterdam

Sun, 2100: ARG-POR, Liege
Mon, 1500: IRN-CMR, Eindhoven

Fri, 1700: IRN-ARG, Charleroi
Fri, 1700: CMR-POR, Rotterdam

Group H
France
Mexico
Greece
Paraguay

Wed, 1500: FRA-MEX, Enschede
Wed, 1800: GRE-PAR, Liege

Mon, 1800: FRA-GRE, Alkmaar
Mon, 2100: PAR-MEX, Brussels

Fri, 2100: PAR-FRA, Heerenveen
Fri, 2100: MEX-GRE, Antwerp

Round of 16

Sat, 1700: A1-B2, Brugge
Sat, 2100: C1-D2, Enschede
Sun, 1700: B1-A2, Eindhoven
Sun, 2100: D1-C2, Liege
Mon, 1700: E1-F2, Alkmaar
Mon, 2100: G1-H2, Charleroi
Tue, 1700: F1-E2, Genk
Tue, 2100: H1-G2, Heerenveen

Quarterfinals

Fri, 1700: A1/B2-C1/D2, Brussels
Fri, 2100: E1/F2-G1/H2, Amsterdam
Sat, 1700: B1/A2-D1/C2, Rotterdam
Sat, 2100: F1/E2-H1/G2, Antwerp

Semifinals

Tue, 2100: QF 1 vs. QF 2, Brussels
Wed, 2100: QF 3 vs QF 4, Amsterdam

3rd Place Game

Sat, 2100: Antwerp

FINAL

Sun, 2100: Rotterdam

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 06:36 PM
Dwbakke I give you huge props for doing that. I researched the Benelux bid in depth last night and realized that it's a better bid than I expected with all the plans to upgrade and expand stadiums. The only downfall to the bid is they are in Europe and competing against England and Iberian Bid is tough, but I think they will eventually get it if they don't get it for 2018 and such.

Dwbakke
18 Sep 2008, 06:52 PM
Dwbakke I give you huge props for doing that. I researched the Benelux bid in depth last night and realized that it's a better bid than I expected with all the plans to upgrade and expand stadiums. The only downfall to the bid is they are in Europe and competing against England and Iberian Bid is tough, but I think they will eventually get it if they don't get it for 2018 and such.

It's not a terrible bid, but I'm not sure Belgium would get to six stadiums. The Charleroi one especially is dicey. I could see six in the Netherlands and four in Belgium, or five and five.

scmcbride21
18 Sep 2008, 07:01 PM
It's not a terrible bid, but I'm not sure Belgium would get to six stadiums. The Charleroi one especially is dicey. I could see six in the Netherlands and four in Belgium, or five and five.

I think your right about Belgium getting to 6 stadiums. f they can do it I like a 6 and 6, but if not the I think you'd have to go with a 5 and 5.

Dwbakke
18 Sep 2008, 07:11 PM
Here’s a mock China bid. I don’t think Hong Kong would be allowed to host games, as they are a different federation from China and would then be considered a host. So I think they and Macau would be out. I also can’t see China using two stadiums in any one city, as they have plenty of big cities to pick from. I think Xi’an would get a new stadium, as that would be a good destination for games, plus Harbin would also be a possibility for a new stadium (though I’ve only included Xi’an here). Chengdu and Qingdao would also be possible host cities. Or China could just build 12 new stadiums.

STADIUMS

Beijing, Beijing National Stadium, 80,000
Guangzhou, Guangdong Stadium, 80,000
Shanghai, Shanghai Stadium, 80,000
Shenyang, Shenyang Sports Centre, 60,000
Nanjing, Olympic Sports Centre, 60,000
Tianjin, Olympic Sports Centre, 60,000
Wuhan, Wuhan Stadium, 60,000
Hangzhou, Yellow Dragon Stadium, 60,000
Chongqing, Olympic Sports Centre, 58,000
Xi’an: New Stadium, 60,000
Changsha, Helong Stadium, 55,000
Dalian, Dalian People’s Stadium, 55,000

GROUP A
China
Honduras
Netherlands
Cameroon

Fri, 1800: CHN-HON, Shanghai
Fri, 2100: NED-CMR, Dalian

Wed, 2100: CHN-NED, Beijing
Thu, 1500: CMR-HON, Wuhan

Tue, 2100: CMR-CHN, Guangzhou
Tue, 2100: HON-NED, Shenyang

Group B
Argentina
Egypt
Turkey
Iran

Sat, 1500: ARG-EGY, Changsha
Sat, 1800: TUR-IRN, Beijing

Thu, 1800: ARG-TUR, Tianjin
Thu, 2100: IRN-EGY, Guangzhou

Tue, 1700: EGY-TUR, Chongqing
Tue, 1700: IRN-ARG, Xi’an

Group C
Spain
Croatia
South Korea
Nigeria

Sat, 2100: ESP-CRO, Hangzhou
Sun, 1500: KOR-NGA, Chongqing

Fri, 1500: ESP-KOR, Nanjing
Fri, 1800: ITA-URU, Xi’an

Wed, 1700: NGA-ESP, Tianjin
Wed, 1700: CRO-KOR, Changsha

Group D
Italy
Japan
Uruguay
Poland

Sun, 1800: ITA-JPN, Wuhan
Sun, 2100: URU-POL, Nanjing

Fri, 2100: ITA-URU, Xi’an
Sat, 1500: POL-JPN, Changsha

Wed, 2100: POL-ITA, Dalian
Wed, 2100: JPN-URU, Shanghai

Group E
Portugal
Australia
Ivory Coast
England

Mon, 1500: POR-AUS, Shenyang
Mon, 1800: CIV-ENG, Tianjin

Sat, 1800: POR-CIV, Chongqing
Sat, 2100: ENG-AUS, Dalian

Thu, 1700: ENG-POR, Wuhan
Thu, 1700: AUS-CIV, Nanjing

Group F
Brazil
Ghana
Saudi Arabia
Russia

Mon, 2100: BRA-GHA, Guangzhou
Tue, 1500: KSA-RUS, Xi’an

Sun, 1500: BRA-KSA, Shanghai
Sun, 1800: RUS-GHA, Tianjin

Thu, 2100: RUS-BRA, Beijing
Thu, 2100: GHA-KSA, Hangzhou

Group G
France
Czech Republic
Paraguay
USA

Tue, 1800: FRA-CZE, Dalian
Tue, 2100: PAR-USA, Shanghai

Sun, 2100: FRA-PAR, Hangzhou
Mon, 1500: USA-CZE, Wuhan

Fri, 1700: CZE-PAR, Guangzhou
Fri, 1700: USA-FRA, Chongqing

Group H
Germany
Romania
Mexico
Chile

Wed, 1500: GER-ROU, Changsha
Wed, 1800: MEX-CHI, Hangzhou

Mon, 1800: GER-MEX, Nanjing
Mon, 2100: CHI-ROU, Beijing

Fri, 2100: CHI-GER, Shenyang
Fri, 2100: ROU-MEX, Xi’an

ROUND OF 16

Sat, 1700: A1-B2, Shanghai
Sat, 2100: C1-D2, Changsha
Sun, 1700: B1-A2, Dalian
Sun, 2100: D1-C2, Hangzhou
Mon, 1700: E1-F2, Guangzhou
Mon, 2100: G1-H2, Shenyang
Tue, 1700: F1-E2, Wuhan
Tue, 2100: H1-G2, Chongqing

QUARTERFINALS

Fri, 1700: A1/B2-C1/D2, Nanjing
Fri, 2100: E1/F2-G1/H2, Tianjin
Sat, 1700: B1/A2-D1/C2, Beijing
Sat, 2100: F1/E2-H1/G2, Xi’an

SEMIFINALS

Tue, 2100: QF 1-QF 2, Guangzhou
Wed, 2100: QF 3-QF 4, Shanghai

3RD PLACE GAME

Sat, 2100: Wuhan

FINAL

Sun, 2100: Beijing