View Full Version : Dell'Apa: US offense needs to develop more sophistication
Scotty
17 Sep 2008, 03:28 PM
US offense needs to develop more sophistication
This U.S. team is steamrolling foes right now. But wiping out Barbados and defeating Guatemala, Cuba and Trinidad & Tobago is not a good measure of the team's progress.
This U.S. group is focused and organized, relying on the individual enterprise of DaMarcus Beasley, Clint Dempsey and Landon Donovan to create offense. Add in some strong long-ball play and set-piece finishing and you have an effective formula for mowing down CONCACAF teams. But the U.S. will have to develop other attacking dimensions in order to succeed against the heavyweights of Europe and South America.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=572664&sec=us&root=us&cc=3888
Beazley17
17 Sep 2008, 04:14 PM
I could really care less what Dell'Apa has to say. I could of wrote that article. The soccer writers/reporters in the US suck, and really aren't any more knowledgeable then a bigsoccer poster. Goff and Ives are the best, but other then that, they are rediculosuly bad, and I am not trying to ridicule your post.
HouseHead78
17 Sep 2008, 04:18 PM
I thought it was an OK piece, but he doesn't really come to a conclusion, except that it's hard to develop as a team in C'CAF.
Scotty
17 Sep 2008, 04:41 PM
I could really care less what Dell'Apa has to say. I could of wrote that article. The soccer writers/reporters in the US suck, and really aren't any more knowledgeable then a bigsoccer poster. Goff and Ives are the best, but other then that, they are rediculosuly bad, and I am not trying to ridicule your post.
I hope that you would have had someone proofread it for spelling and grammar.
BReid
17 Sep 2008, 05:47 PM
I could really care less what Dell'Apa has to say. I could of wrote that article. The soccer writers/reporters in the US suck, and really aren't any more knowledgeable then a bigsoccer poster. Goff and Ives are the best, but other then that, they are rediculosuly bad, and I am not trying to ridicule your post.
Not to pile on and be the grammar police, but if you are going to talk about how you could be a writer, you open yourself up to it. Its rIdiculous, not rEdiculous. Its derived from the word ridicule, which you somehow managed to get right.
IndividualEleven
17 Sep 2008, 05:49 PM
A rather rambling article. There's nothing in it that hasn't been the subject of 10,000 BS threads including some very recent.
IndividualEleven
17 Sep 2008, 05:51 PM
I hope that you would have had someone proofread it for spelling and grammar.
Not to pile on and be the grammar police, but if you are going to talk about how you could be a writer, you open yourself up to it. Its rIdiculous, not rEdiculous. Its derived from the word ridicule, which you somehow managed to get right.
The poster didn't criticize the grammar and spelling in the article. It appears he's questioning the ideas or lack thereof, so the grammar smack-back is not relevent.
MLSNHTOWN
17 Sep 2008, 05:57 PM
The poster didn't criticize the grammar and spelling in the article. It appears he's questioning the ideas or lack thereof, so the grammar smack-back is not relevent.
I disagree. He blasted a soccer writer/journalist by saying he could do their job and that for the most part, they all suck. However, his post clearly indicates that he could never be hired to be a soccer writer/journalist. Bringing up the grammar issues in his post are necessary to show him that just saying on a message board "I can do that" doesn't make it true.
IndividualEleven
17 Sep 2008, 06:33 PM
I disagree. He blasted a soccer writer/journalist by saying he could do their job and that for the most part, they all suck. However, his post clearly indicates that he could never be hired to be a soccer writer/journalist. Bringing up the grammar issues in his post are necessary to show him that just saying on a message board "I can do that" doesn't make it true.
Not really. This is a soccer enthusiast forum and as such standards for grammar and spelling wouldn't be expected of the calibre of espn columns. As such one couldn't reasonably draw conclusions of the poster's or anyone else' s formal writing skills.
Prime Time
17 Sep 2008, 06:37 PM
I disagree. He blasted a soccer writer/journalist by saying he could do their job and that for the most part, they all suck. However, his post clearly indicates that he could never be hired to be a soccer writer/journalist. Bringing up the grammar issues in his post are necessary to show him that just saying on a message board "I can do that" doesn't make it true.
I could play in a World Cup and score a hat-trick. :cool:
Grumpy in LA
17 Sep 2008, 06:44 PM
I disagree. He blasted a soccer writer/journalist by saying he could do their job and that for the most part, they all suck. However, his post clearly indicates that he could never be hired to be a soccer writer/journalist. Bringing up the grammar issues in his post are necessary to show him that just saying on a message board "I can do that" doesn't make it true.
A lot of excellent journalists are mediocre writers and unconcerned with grammatical niceties. (Such as the failed parallelism in my previous sentence.) Regular editors and copy editors compensate for that. Unfortunately, it's harder and harder to be an excellent journalist in America in general, and there have never been a lot top-notch soccer journalists here. And that's the real problem; it's a lot easier to fix shoddy semicolon use than to correct inadequate investigation and stunted perspective.
IndividualEleven
17 Sep 2008, 06:46 PM
A lot of excellent journalists are mediocre writers and unconcerned with grammatical niceties. (Such as the failed parallelism in my previous sentence.) Regular editors and copy editors compensate for that. Unfortunately, it's harder and harder to be an excellent journalist in America in general, and there have never been a lot top-notch soccer journalists here. And that's the real problem; it's a lot easier to fix shoddy semicolon use than to correct inadequate investigation and stunted perspective.
Somebody actually gets the point.
ill quixote
17 Sep 2008, 06:50 PM
The fact that the discussion here has focused on spelling and grammar says a lot about the article.
EDIT:However, just because there's nothing in the article that hasn't been discussed on BS already doesn't make it bad as long as its target is a more general audience.
russ
17 Sep 2008, 07:46 PM
The poster didn't criticize the grammar and spelling in the article. It appears he's questioning the ideas or lack thereof, so the grammar smack-back is not relevent.
What about spelling smack?Is spelling smack relevant?
I think we should require all UNMN&A posts to be typed in lolcat.
Srsly.
Scott e Dio93
17 Sep 2008, 07:59 PM
Mark on Donovan = USA offense. Sad but true
While Adu, Altidore, Recken, Cooper and Davies will continue to be ignore.
TimB4Last
17 Sep 2008, 08:00 PM
The poster didn't criticize the grammar and spelling in the article. It appears he's questioning the ideas or lack thereof, so the grammar smack-back is not relevent.
I'm going to agree with those who are arguing that we should focus our discussion on substance more than style. What a poster has to say is more important to me than how he says it.
I would add, though, that it is relevant. With an 'a.'
sidefootsitter
17 Sep 2008, 08:01 PM
I inject your insinuation.
Prime Time
17 Sep 2008, 08:04 PM
Mark on Donovan = USA offense. Sad but true
While Adu, Altidore, Recken, Cooper and Davies will continue to be ignore.
Recken? Get a clue. :rolleyes:
TimB4Last
17 Sep 2008, 08:08 PM
Recken? Get a clue. :rolleyes:
He meant Renken, I reckon, but I thought we agreed to lay off the spelling smack.
england66
17 Sep 2008, 08:23 PM
I disagree. He blasted a soccer writer/journalist by saying he could do their job and that for the most part, they all suck. However, his post clearly indicates that he could never be hired to be a soccer writer/journalist. Bringing up the grammar issues in his post are necessary to show him that just saying on a message board "I can do that" doesn't make it true.
I fink yu ar rite. I cud do an article 1o times beter than dell'apa (wot kind of name is that?) if i work on me english.