Jack Warner: Keane Tells Him What He Is!

[m vann]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=571357&sec=worldcup2010&&cc=5901


We all hate Jack Warner. We all know he's a joke. Everyone does. Roy Keane decided to say things we all have wanted to say to Warner. Gotta love Keane. I wish someone in CONCACAF (Sunil or even Compeán from Mexico) had the balls to say something about Warner.

[DaPrince84]

I dont hate Jack Warner... but I do think Roy Keane is right here

[Dave Brull]

While it all may be true, I have a feeling these may be dangerous waters for Keano. It's akin to a captain calling out a general.

Still calling Warner on his attempts at manipulation may bring more of the spotlight on old Jacks wheelings and dealings.

Or not.

[FnordUnitedFC]

You must spread around more reputation before giving it to Roy Keane again.

[Roehl Sybing]

I have no idea what happened and I don't care, only that if T&T tried to call up Yorke and Keane blocked it (I really don't know if that happened, I'm just saying), then Keane's a moron. If that's not what happened, Warner's a moron, but I didn't need this particular story to tell me that.

[aveslacker]

I have no idea what happened and I don't care, only that if T&T tried to call up Yorke and Keane blocked it (I really don't know if that happened, I'm just saying), then Keane's a moron. If that's not what happened, Warner's a moron, but I didn't need this particular story to tell me that.

Since the game was on a FIFA date, there is no way that Keane could have blocked it. That indicates to me that it was Yorke's decision.

[glennaldo_sf]

Fraid to say as much as I don't like Jack Warner, 'fraid to say I'm sitting on his side of the fence here. What if one of our key players was told, or 'pressured' to come back for club duty before a key WC qualifying game, I'm sure we would all be just a little pissed too. Warner has responded calling Keane out for walking out on his country in 2002. :eek:

From Keane to Warner:
"If he is vice-president of FIFA, then God help us"

From Warner to Keane:
"In closing may I remind you that a player's greatest honour is to represent his country in spite of the fact that you chose to walk away from yours during the 2002 Korea/Japan World Cup after publicly abusing your manager... indictment that you will no doubt be proud of up to today. Poor Sunderland."

[kokoplus10]

Further evidence that there is no such thing as "men". Only "children".

[m vann]

Fraid to say as much as I don't like Jack Warner, 'fraid to say I'm sitting on his side of the fence here. What if one of our key players was told, or 'pressured' to come back for club duty before a key WC qualifying game, I'm sure we would all be just a little pissed too. Warner has responded calling Keane out for walking out on his country in 2002. :eek:

From Keane to Warner:
"If he is vice-president of FIFA, then God help us"

From Warner to Keane:
"In closing may I remind you that a player's greatest honour is to represent his country in spite of the fact that you chose to walk away from yours during the 2002 Korea/Japan World Cup after publicly abusing your manager... indictment that you will no doubt be proud of up to today. Poor Sunderland."


The whole issue is that Yorke has pulled a Brett Favre numerous times. He says he's retired internationally and them boom he pops up on T&T's roster. Roy's upset as he should be. Yorke hasn't been forthright with Sunderland as to whether he's active with T&T or not.

[Devil_78]

The basic gist of the full story is that Sunderland signed Yorke, and after talking with Yorke, Keane was happy for him to sign since Yorke had, apparently, retired from international football. Keane did not want a 36 year old playing so soon after busting his cheekbone, only to have to haul himself again agross on a trans-Atlantic flight to possibly play for Sunderland this weekend.

However, it seems like Warner leaned on Yorke, and got him to play, and once Keane found out, and tried to get Yorke out of the game, Warner went public, rather than trying to sort this out directly.

Keane had a pop back based on his current opinion of Warner which has probably been coloured by stories about Jack.

I, for one, am with Keane. If Yorke had decided to retire from international football, only to then turn around and play, if I where Keane, I'd be angry. Then if Warner is the one who has encouraged this, I'd be angry at him for potentially endangering a key player for my team.

[smokarz]

Can we get rid of this Jack "Ass"? I am sure together, US/Mex/Canada should be able to get his "Ass" out of the CONCACAF office.

I think, SUM (a patnership between Mex and USA) probably have the biggest voice in CONCACAF.

[SMUPlayer]

How does someone like Jack keep his office. This is unbelievable.

Sunderland signed Yorke with the understanding that he was retired from international play. They would not have signed him otherwise.

The fact that Jack is calling out Keane in the media is absurd. It's akin to a Garber getting on BigSoccer to debate the single table issue. I love this quote because it speaks to how childish Jack is...
"I chose to respond on a FIFA letter-head because that is a privilege afforded me owing to my said status and the fact that your callousness showed utter disregard for FIFA's regulations regarding the release of players for international duty. Regrettably, but not surprisingly, you did not grasp the message."

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2008/September/12/keane-and-warners-war-of-words-takes-new-twist

[aveslacker]

Judging by reading Archer's blog, where Jack's antics are frequently reported, (required reading, imo) Jack remains where he is because Blatter wants him to be there. I don't see much light at the end of this tunnel.

[kylesoccer]

don't like warner but I agree with him. Keane abandoned his national team because he is selfish and left 19 other teammates hanging. Keane is wrong and warner is absolutely correct. I don't agree with calling someone out in the media but they have both landed punches, I just think Warner's last punch was a knockout!

[jq pepe]

Can we get rid of this Jack "Ass"? I am sure together, US/Mex/Canada should be able to get his "Ass" out of the CONCACAF office.

I think, SUM (a patnership between Mex and USA) probably have the biggest voice in CONCACAF.

The US, Canada and Mexico represent only three votes, there must be at least a thousand islands in the Caribean whose loyalty rest with Jacko, and who get an ocasional dollar from "Honest Jack"

Until he gets whacked by one of his mafia friends, we're saddled with this character.

[ZeekLTK]

If T&T want Yorke, and Yorke is willing to play, then what the hell is the problem? So what if he's 36. Sweden still calls on Henrik Larsson (who is also 36) occassionally.

Yes, T&T are trying to qualify to the World Cup. I realize it's not something Ireland know much about but it should be obvious that it is way more important than some stupid little club in Sunderland.

Jack Warner is 100% correct when he wrote: "In closing, may I remind you that a player's greatest honour is to represent his country".

That's why Yorke and Larsson are legends who still play at the age of 36 while Roy Keane (37) was washed up and a manager by 36.

[FnordUnitedFC]

If T&T want Yorke, and Yorke is willing to play, then what the hell is the problem? So what if he's 36. Sweden still calls on Henrik Larsson (who is also 36) occassionally.
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Because Yorke does this on-again off-again thing with T & T all the time, and he took the contract with Sunderland on the understanding that he was done with the national side. It is Yorke being disingenuous, not Keane. Keane as much said that if he knew Yorke would be flipping back and forth like this with the national team, he wouldn't have signed him for the year (which he is in his right not to do).

From Keane's point of view, Yorke is telling him one thing to get a contract, and telling the T & T FA another thing.

[deuteronomy]

One of the more amusing stories in recent Concacaf qualifying, to be sure. It involves three characters, each notorious in their own way.
Dwight Yorke, arguably the greatest soccer player in the history of Trinidad and Tobago, first retired from international soccer in2001. He returned to help the side qualify for their first ever World Cup finals appearance in 2006. He is also the father of a child from the English "model" (hmmm) Jordan, proven by DNA evidence, having denied his culpability early on. Yorke most recently retired from International Football in March 2007, choosing to focus on his club career at Sunderland AFC.He had captained the side in Germany, and up until his retirement. However, he made a guest return appearance for the friendly against England in June 2008 after being invited by Jack Warner. In July 2008 T and T announced Dwight's return to the national team for the 2010 qualification campaign. Dwight, now 37, has suffered a few injuries late in his career and his match fitness has also been called into question, on more than one occasion. Undoubedly, Dwight adds more to the T and T roster than any other player in Concacaf, he is a respected leader and honored figure.
Austin "Jack" Warner is certainly no stranger to controversy and has been in the middle of several unusual incidents often accused of using the T and T National team as a vehicle for his own financial gain. He also spoke publicly aganst England hosting WC 2018 but aplogized later which was a condition leading up to the recent England friendly. Given his notoriety, it is amusing that he would choose to address Roy Keane at Sunderland with the FIFA letterhead. Warner, though certainly controversial in the soccer world, made some good points
The letter says: "The disrespectful tone of your reported comments further demonstrates the total disrespect that you and others of your ilk have generally for players and officials from 'small' countries.
"It is obviously difficult for you to accept the fact that someone from a 'small' country could rise to become a vice-president of FIFA.
"I chose to respond on a FIFA letter-head because that is a privilege afforded me owing to my said status and the fact that your callousness showed utter disregard for FIFA's regulations re the release of players for international duty. Regrettably, but not surprisingly, you did not grasp the message.
"In closing may I remind you that a player's greatest honour is to represent his country in spite of the fact that you chose to walk away from yours during the 2002 Korea/Japan World Cup after publicly abusing your manager... indictment that you will no doubt be proud of up to today. Poor Sunderland."
Roy Keane, himself no stranger to controversy, was actually a teammate of Yorke's at Manchester United. Well known as having an amazing temper, he left the Irish National team immediately before the 2002 world cup, while serving as their captain, in a row over choosing to practice in 2nd rate facilities in the Pacific Island of Saipan. His leaving left Ireland without a chance in the tournament following a surprising showing in '98.
Here is the video where he refers to Jack Warner as a "clown"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/s/sunderland/7609778.stm

[glennaldo_sf]

One of the more amusing stories in recent Concacaf qualifying, to be sure. It involves three characters, each notorious in their own way.
Dwight Yorke, arguably the greatest soccer player in the history of Trinidad and Tobago

Um yeah, but that's kind of like being the best downhill snow ski champion in Abu Dhabi.... a nice title but not really too much competition in the runners-up department.

[Steve36]

Mr Warner
You should speak with Yorke first, before having a dig at his manager.
Then you should say it to Keane's face.
:rolleyes: