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Caesar
11 Dec 2008, 02:34 PM
Eh, I don't know. One of the most deserving, certainly. A lot of sentiment there though I'm sure.

Smiley321
11 Dec 2008, 02:41 PM
Eh, I don't know. One of the most deserving, certainly. A lot of sentiment there though I'm sure.

I just saw it and I'd say easily the most deserving. That Joker character was one of the most memorable villains I've ever seen. I just don't know if Heath Ledger deserves the credit for it or it's the writers or director who made it so.

Chicago1871
11 Dec 2008, 03:11 PM
Eh, I don't know. One of the most deserving, certainly. A lot of sentiment there though I'm sure.
Right now he's up against Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. whose roles in Tropic Thunder were hilariously awesome, but not nearly as good. James Franco also received a nomination, and while I haven't seen Pineapple Express, I doubt it was as good as Ledger as The Joker. He was truly such a great villain, I just don't see him getting beat by that crowd.

MLSNHTOWN
11 Dec 2008, 04:28 PM
Right now he's up against Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr. whose roles in Tropic Thunder were hilariously awesome, but not nearly as good. James Franco also received a nomination, and while I haven't seen Pineapple Express, I doubt it was as good as Ledger as The Joker. He was truly such a great villain, I just don't see him getting beat by that crowd.

After seeing all of these films, I have to say it is Ledger hands down IMHO. No emotionality, no sentimentality. Downy and Cruise were awesome more the result of their makeup and their lines than anything that they did with their characters. I thought Franco did a good job and after seeing him in other movies, I thought he was good, but how much acting is required to play a dopehead?

Ledger's joker was phenomenal. It had nothing to do with the makeup and it had nothing to do with the lines he delivered. He got really, really dark to pull out that character and his performance was just better than the others, IMHO.

Ghost
13 Dec 2008, 11:11 AM
Here's the thing about The Dark Knight and the Oscars .... it would be the most colossal mistake not to nominate it for Best Picture. Looking at the early top ten lists that have come out, it's been in the top five on most of them. Which means that when David Poland puts up his annual compendium of top ten lists over at Movie City News, it will probably be in the top three, possibly even number one.

Meanwhile most of the Oscar bait this year is relatively miid in quality, liked but not loved.

So if The Dark Knight fails to get a nomination, it means the Oscar field will look something like Slumdog Millionaire, Frost/Nixon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Milk, and either Doubt or Revolutionary Road. That's a pretty weak field. And will any of them be true hits by the time of the Oscars? Maybe Button. I don't sense that Sludmdog is catching on as much as Juno or Little Miss Sunshine.

So basically, if The Dark Knight fails to get a nom, it means that the Oscars will be shooting themselves in the foot in order to nominate less critically-acclaimed movies.

But I think it will get the nomination.

Ringo
13 Dec 2008, 04:23 PM
plus, if one chooses to be cyncial ... the best-rated telecast was, I believe, the Titanic oscars. having a flood of Dark Knight/Ledger noms would certainly help ratings for a show that's been in decline.

Ghost
14 Dec 2008, 01:10 PM
plus, if one chooses to be cyncial ... the best-rated telecast was, I believe, the Titanic oscars. having a flood of Dark Knight/Ledger noms would certainly help ratings for a show that's been in decline.


Exactly what I mean. In terms of general public interest and hence television ratings, the difference between Dark Knight and no Dark Knight is the difference between a high-rated Oscars and the lowest. The Oscars had a gift thrown in their lap - a critically-acclaimed movie that's the second-highest box office earner of all time. Arethey really going to waste that opportunity on dignified mediocrities llike Frost/Nixon?

benito camelpene
18 Dec 2008, 04:39 PM
Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker was the best part of this movie. Gary Oldman was a close 2nd. But I have to say that I didn't think the movie was as great as critics made it out to be. It was a solid, entertaining film but it dragged towards the end...imo. Overall, I enjoyed Batman Begins more. I love what Christopher Nolan has done for the Batman series but I'd be surprised if this was nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars(TV ratings aside). Ledger deserves a nomination though and I think he'll get it since he received a Golden Globe nom.