Limiting Foriegns In Europe

[rizzuto123]

It seems all too Apparent that the 6+5 rule just isn't going to work, so what now, what are some other ways to implement more home grown talent.

A Salary Cap?
Abolishing the January transfer Window?
Limiting Summer and Winter transfers?
Having a Quota of 4-5 youth players from youth teams on the senior squad.

I enjoy Club Soccer but I enjoy International Soccer more.

Frankly what side your on, what needs to be done or do you feel its fine as it is and nothing more is needed.

[Yañez]

Weird how you're not even European and you want this more than some real europeans.

Anyway, keeping this civil. IMO limiting foreign players wont improve youth systems. The new trend from European teams is to buy young players from the Americas. There is one reason why they do, because they are better. European teams spend an immense amount of money in their youth already.

[SportBoy333]

A European DCNG is the only way to go to make things fair. It would keep clubs finances clean and that means no corruption or dirty money.

[goliath74]

A European DCNG is the only way to go to make things fair. It would keep clubs finances clean and that means no corruption or dirty money.

I agree. So many useless garbage South American footballers went through my own club Dynamo Kyiv that it is hard to count them. This begs a question - why? Did they really think they were so good they just had to be on our roster? Or is the ownership laundering money through these deals?

If we make clubs' finances open to public, we will force the clubs to deal cleanly. We'll see more homegrown talent on the roster. Dynamo had dropped some of the foreign dead wood in the mid-season last winter and they are all the better for it.

[Duck Manson]

It seems all too Apparent that the 6+5 rule just isn't going to work, so what now, what are some other ways to implement more home grown talent.Explain why the 6+5 rule won't work? If young domestic talents have less competition to get playing time they will develop more and faster because they'll get more competitive games in which to learn the game. The logic behind that is obvious.

A good example is SWP who got sent to the bench at Chelsea from foreign competition. I see absolutely no reason to believe he wouldn't be a better player today if he had been a regular starter at Chelsea.

The two most important factors in a players development is coaching/teaching and playing. One of those gets taken away with too many foreign players to compete with.

[rizzuto123]

Explain why the 6+5 rule won't work? If young domestic talents have less competition to get playing time they will develop more and faster because they'll get more competitive games in which to learn the game. The logic behind that is obvious.

A good example is SWP who got sent to the bench at Chelsea from foreign competition. I see absolutely no reason to believe he wouldn't be a better player today if he had been a regular starter at Chelsea.

The two most important factors in a players development is coaching/teaching and playing. One of those gets taken away with too many foreign players to compete with.


I'm not saying it won't work, but it doesn't seem likely that it will come true, due to european laws, Uefa needs to look at alternative methods.


Sorry but I hate to see England in 10 years, will they have any top players on there big four clubs by then?

[Duck Manson]

I'm not saying it won't work, but it doesn't seem likely that it will come true, due to european laws, Uefa needs to look at alternative methods.FIFA and UEFA have had extensive talks with EU representatives and they are optimistic that the rule can be passed as legal.Sorry but I hate to see England in 10 years, will they have any top players on there big four clubs by then? That's exactly the problem. I have to praise Man Utd in that sense, they seem to want domestic players on their team and are prepared to overpay to keep that policy. Now, if only the other big clubs had that mindset. I think the problem comes with foreign coaches. They don't care where a player is from, or actually prefer foreigners. A british coach seem to care.

[superfrantheman]

good idea, even though i come from a "foreign" nation.

you europeans started it all this, and you guys are the only ones who can stop this...


last time arsenal played twente fc from netherlands they had only one english player (walcott).... why did arene wenger did not line up some brittish? the answer is simply brittish players are limited, and that's why they go and see abroad.

you guys need to limit to amount of players, i would suggest 15 players per team, but only lining up a maximum of 6

[Cirdan]

FIFA and UEFA have had extensive talks with EU representatives and they are optimistic that the rule can be passed as legal.

I would be very, very surprised if that happens. I'm pretty sure not too long ago I read an interview with Platini where he said that he likes 6+5, but it will never happen in Europe, EU won't allow it.

BTW I don't think the "youth player" thing is such a good idea, because it only leads to young players being chased earlier and earlier.

[superfrantheman]

ENGLAND is the one that suffers this more.....


go see the arsenal's, liverpool's, manU's lineups


8 or 9 players were born in a country that is not england!

[Duck Manson]

I would be very, very surprised if that happens. I'm pretty sure not too long ago I read an interview with Platini where he said that he likes 6+5, but it will never happen in Europe, EU won't allow it.It will happen. There are simular rules in sports today. Totti is not allowed to play for England for example. That goes against the EU Labour laws too.BTW I don't think the "youth player" thing is such a good idea, because it only leads to young players being chased earlier and earlier. And that's a problem why?

[aloisius]

It will happen. There are simular rules in sports today. Totti is not allowed to play for England for example. That goes against the EU Labour laws too.

the eu made it clear that the labour laws don't apply to competitions which are not of primarily economic nature , like the competitions between national teams.

playing for a national team is not a job. according to the eu , at least.

[Duck Manson]

Exactly. (But what happens when players get money to play for their country?) They say that because it would be stupid for Totti to play for England. Just as it's stupid for a English team to not have any English players.

[johan neeskens]

What UEFA and/or national football associations could do with the approval of the EU is impose a minimum transfer age. I..e players under 18 can't be transferred abroad. That would be a big step in the right direction.

[johan neeskens]

A European DCNG is the only way to go to make things fair. It would keep clubs finances clean and that means no corruption or dirty money.

The problem is that there's different rules from one country to the next. I know for a fact that the German and Dutch football assocation are VERY strict in terms of monitoring the financial management of their football clubs, for example, and are much stricter in terms of how much debt they allow their clubs to have than some other leagues. Whether you agree with that or not is irrelevant, what is relevant is that it creates unfair competition within EU borders.

Another problem is that the EU seems to be in two minds as to how to treat football, i.e. just like any other business or as a special case.

[SportBoy333]

Yes France are also very strict in terms of monitoring clubs finanaces and not allowing them to go into huge debts. When I see a foreign billonaire buying an English team and the very next day they are spending huge money on transfers, I just shake my head at that because in other countries that would not be allowed and its not fair because all clubs in Europe are competiting for the same players now.

[Kebbie Gazauzkas]

I agree. So many useless garbage South American footballers went through my own club Dynamo Kyiv that it is hard to count them. This begs a question - why? Did they really think they were so good they just had to be on our roster? Or is the ownership laundering money through these deals?

If we make clubs' finances open to public, we will force the clubs to deal cleanly. We'll see more homegrown talent on the roster. Dynamo had dropped some of the foreign dead wood in the mid-season last winter and they are all the better for it.

Well put, we have similar issues with Bulgarian football clubs and the national team is being negatively affected. I still hope that the 6+5 rule could be passed, though.

[Duck Manson]

What UEFA and/or national football associations could do with the approval of the EU is impose a minimum transfer age. I..e players under 18 can't be transferred abroad. That would be a big step in the right direction.That'd get my vote. I actually think they're working on something like this right now.

[zippy85]

Yes France are also very strict in terms of monitoring clubs finanaces and not allowing them to go into huge debts. When I see a foreign billonaire buying an English team and the very next day they are spending huge money on transfers, I just shake my head at that because in other countries that would not be allowed and its not fair because all clubs in Europe are competiting for the same players now.
Even if investers could invest money in other leagues they wouldn't and if they did it would be a limited investment, it would be a quick way to lose alot of money, you could make some tidy sums in German football though, the sooner countries cast away national pride the faster they will move forward, it's the past.

[SportBoy333]

Ive heard you say before that national team football is the past and that could be true but if it is then how could England justify spending all that money on a new Wembley. If National team football is "the past" then why spend over a billion dollars on a 90,000 seat stadium