General 2008/09 Ligue 1 Discussion [R]

[SportBoy333]

Why was this thread not started 3 weeks ago I dont know but I'm starting it now.:)

[SuperSebGrimaldi]

Now that Ménez is gone to Rome, who would be the best offensive player who is not Benzema or Ben Arfa, in terms of skills?

[prvev]

Would it be too homerish to say Valbuena? He hasn't played yet this year, yet, so I guess it's hard to say.

I haven't seen enough of Bordeaux so far to comment on Gourcuff. Maybe Gomis.

[SuperSebGrimaldi]

Yes, it will be nice to see Valbuena again, and by the way, the question is wide open. I mean, I was thinking whether I should actually limit the candidates only to those who have a permanent spot in the starting XI. If not, Pjanic and Obertan are interesting. Veterans like Giuly are worth a thought, too.

[SportBoy333]

I was impressed that Lille was able to get Tulio De Melo. I think this will be the last big signing before the window closes. I dont consider Recoba signing with Monaco to be that impactfull.

[lefutur]

the answer is simple: Niang

[SportBoy333]

Kevin Mirallas of Lille has moved to St. Etienne and signs a 4 year contract. 3m Euro transfer.

[SportBoy333]

Sylvain Wiltord has resumed training with Rennes so I guess he stays there.

[SportBoy333]

I know its early but I can't believe Toulouse are in 2nd place. They let their best player go before the season and they didnt sign anyone who was high profile. I guess this is typical how certain cheap, low budget teams continue to do well. Its good for unpredictibity but it shows how weak Ligue 1 is that these type of teams can do so well. I still expect OL, OM and Bordeaux to the top 3 teams at the end.

[SuperSebGrimaldi]

I did not expect Toulouse to battle relegation this season, but I definitely did not think they would be this high by now. Although a lot of it, according to the papers anyway as I haven't watched them, has to do with getting guys like Didot and Gignac to bounce back to the level they are capable of.

I agree with SportBoy's Top 3 order at the end.

[Inara]

Lyon have been slowing down recently and are only two points ahead of Marseille, who will play PSG at home tomorrow. Bordeaux also came close but could only draw to a last second penalty awarded to Nice.

Things are looking interesting up top, and it should continue throughout the season.

[SportBoy333]

Still think OL, OM and Bordeaux will finish as the top 3. Still not sure of the order though. They are the best 3 teams. If this does happen it would be the same teams in the top 3 for 2 straight years and thats unheard of in France compared to other places.

[Inara]

Some of you might find this interesting. There is now a Ligue 1 Prospects Blog (http://ligue1prospects.theoffside.com) over at the Offside, where the writer, Evilo, has posted a top 50 ranking of the best prospects in France (post 86 generation with at least one league appearance).

[NicolasN.]

Personally, I like Dabo from Saint-Etienne even though he's injured right now. However, article is outdated.

[Inara]

It's updated every six months, I believe.

Arsenal are interested in Dabo now. :rolleyes:

[SportBoy333]

I dont know who I hate more. Arsenal, their "fans", or their manager.

[Inara]

I intensely dislike Wenger. I'm afraid that colors the feelings I might otherwise have for Arsenal as a club.

[SportBoy333]

All you need to know is that Nasri was more than happy to leave his hometown club and the most popular club in France at 20 years old to go abroad. That just isn't right and yeah I'm blaming Wenger for that. Didnt he start 6 Frenchmen vs ManU ? He doesnt seem to care he's hurting the club game is his own country. I dont know how an English fan of Arsenal could put up with all those non English players on their team but I guess times have changed and no one cares anymore about that. Certainly all the American Arsenal fans on this site wouldnt give a shit if they started 12 Frenchmen. "Sigh." :(

[AfrcnHrbMan]

I certainly wouldn't....

[Gotham PSG]

why do people care so much about Wenger?
Yes, I too would be pissed off if he came to my club and took out all of our young talent, but you have to remember that he is just doing his job.

If you had to blame somebody, blame the rules of the game, not the player.
Wenger would be more than happy to do the same work in France had he been given the opportunity and structures. Meaning, the money, the support, and all those extra things that make him safe in Arsenal building a great club, instead of being stuck in France with limits on what he can do.

I don't like some aspects of how he runs Arsenal, but I'll have to say, he's doing it well.
Just, people shouldn't praise him that much. He is good at recruiting young talent, but people shouldn't say that he formed the players. Instead, he picks them right after the foreign club has done the bulk of the work, he gets them for peanuts, and then simply polishes the young product by giving them an amazing environment to work in.
Otherwise, just like with Guy Roux and Auxerre, not all of his players go on to be successful once they've left the nest.