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Revelian
26 Aug 2008, 12:23 PM
Taff Hammer is a knobhead. ;)

Revelian

BlackburnRover
26 Aug 2008, 01:36 PM
I think I've asked Taffhammer this before, but do you reckon the West Ham faithful are going to be able to practise what they preached about Lucarse and forgive and forget?

As for the game, we'll probably lose. There could be 4 divisions separating us, with us on top obviously, and we'd still lose down the old Boleyn. I hate these games, shit to get to and even worse on the way home ... No I'm not going this time.

Revelian
26 Aug 2008, 01:41 PM
I know one thing - Lucarse got done like a kipper twice t'other day. He looked completely useless, and he was wearing the captain's armband. Ha ha! Looks like Hughes remembered his old player's weaknesses.

Revelian

taffhammer
28 Aug 2008, 05:27 AM
I think I've asked Taffhammer this before, but do you reckon the West Ham faithful are going to be able to practise what they preached about Lucarse and forgive and forget?

As for the game, we'll probably lose. There could be 4 divisions separating us, with us on top obviously, and we'd still lose down the old Boleyn. I hate these games, shit to get to and even worse on the way home ... No I'm not going this time.

ince was badly advised when his agent got him to pose in a manure shirt before he went on holiday, and was unfortunate that the Sun published the photo on the same day the Mirror had him pledging his future to west ham.

the sad thing is,he was very young,it was a long time ago but football stadiums are full of idiots and he'll get plenty.

luckily for him it'll be diluted by the unrest the fans are feeling towards the current board after the rumours linking bellamy with city and selling rio II to the mackems.

if anything if you slag off the opponent if could have the reverse effect and raise their game........for example
"Oi revellian you know nothing armchair denting blob."
.......could make him at last do an intresting post .

dring1
28 Aug 2008, 06:05 AM
forgive and forget no chance. he is going to get a hell of a lot of stick. just like us with lucas who im sure our fans will give him plently off.

Revelian
28 Aug 2008, 06:31 AM
if anything if you slag off the opponent if could have the reverse effect and raise their game........for example
"Oi revellian you know nothing armchair denting blob."
.......could make him at last do an intresting post .

Let's not go crazy. I don't think I've ever been interesting. :)

Revelian

taffhammer
28 Aug 2008, 08:29 AM
Let's not go crazy. I don't think I've ever been interesting. :)

Revelian

i didn't say it always works.

should be a tough game to call to be honest, we have Neil playing left back (injuries) so if you still had Bentley to work on our biggest weakness i would have you down for a result.

Revelian
28 Aug 2008, 10:00 AM
Based on how Lucarse played at Eastlands, I have a feeling even I could run rings round the leg-breaking, ungrateful tw@.

Revelian

BlackburnRover
28 Aug 2008, 10:10 AM
From what I've heard he'll be up against Lennon ... kidding. Probably Reid so you should be ok:(

See, as things are with the unrest at West Ham etc. etc. I feel like I should be looking forward to grabbing 3 points this weekend, seems reasonable.

But it's West Ham.

Revelian
28 Aug 2008, 10:18 AM
Yeah, the referee will certainly be on their side, as is usually the case.

We normally get results where we shouldn't and fail where we should pick points up easily.

Revelian

taffhammer
28 Aug 2008, 04:11 PM
Yeah, the referee will certainly be on their side, as is usually the case.



Revelian

just as i have forgiven mr ince, you should forgive one little incident.

Revelian
29 Aug 2008, 03:22 AM
That "little" incident could have guaranteed your Premiership status. It was one of the most blatantly incorrect decisions I've ever seen. So incorrect that bias MUST have been a factor. It's not the only time the ref has screwed us over when we played you.

Revelian

taffhammer
29 Aug 2008, 05:06 AM
That "little" incident could have guaranteed your Premiership status. It was one of the most blatantly incorrect decisions I've ever seen. So incorrect that bias MUST have been a factor. It's not the only time the ref has screwed us over when we played you.

Revelian

i guess your talking about the ball that didn't cross the line, and it didn't. but can you honestly say it was down to referee bias? the officials have a split second to make a call and they got it wrong. your claming they in a split second thought " f**k me it's west ham v blackburn ,let's give a goal. lets not worry about the tv replays that'll come later showing us to complete tw@'s, this could keep the hammers up"

come on revelian , although this was a terrible call, these things generally even out come the end of this season.
your better than that mate.

and good luck to all you blackburn fans on here tomorrow, lets hope it's a good game, although things are looking a little better for us as it's ashton and bellamy up front.

Revelian
29 Aug 2008, 05:41 AM
Look, if Rovers have not much left to play for except pride, and West Ham need the result to stay up, the officials will know this. Perhaps they aren't thinking, "yeah, we love the Hammers," but they will have the fact that the Hammers need the results more than Rovers, in the backs of their minds. If they see West Ham's players appeal, they will therefore be more inclined to make the wrong decision, simply because it has been appealed for by the desperate players who need the result.

Ashton and Bellamy up front means trouble for us. They're both quality. If Ashton doesn't get injured (a trait of his), I can see him playing a blinder against us. Same with Bellamy. I CAN see us scoring a couple ourselves, seeing as West Ham defensively are out of sorts at the moment. I know they had Noble sent off against Citeh, but, they would have lost that match with eleven men, anyway - they were dire.

Revelian

dring1
29 Aug 2008, 05:53 AM
just as i have forgiven mr ince, you should forgive one little incident.

agree we should not live in the past but football fans are like that and never forgive and forget. im sure sheffield united would fans would never forget it either.

BlackburnRover
29 Aug 2008, 06:24 AM
Listening to the bookies on Talk Sport this morning they had us down as well worth a punt this weekend ... obviously they don't take into account the curse of Boleyn when they look at the odds.;)

That was a weird and unforgettable game with the little incident. Emotions were running very high from the start due to Lucarse's return. Aside from Manure and the Dingles I don't think I've ever seen such a caustic atmosphere at Ewood, all aimed at one player. Took me by surprise, I've never seen a returning player get such treatment. Although I've never known a player come out with such thoughtless comments either.

It wasn't just that decision that caused the bad feeling, or I think it would have been forgotten, well maybe not, it was ridiculous. There was also a dubious penalty and a comedy sending off for Bentley for handball after he got shoved in the back. I honestly rarely go in for conspiracy theories, once I've calmed down anyway;) but that was one of those rare games where I walked away without a doubt in my mind that the officials had intended to influence the result. It was such a bizarre game, I'll never forget it.

It was just after the get out of gaol for £5 mil card had been given to West Ham too, which didn't help to put aside peoples' suspicions. All in all, it was as fixed as you'll ever see.

Anyhow, that was the officials' fault, not West Ham's. Now if you can just remove the curse we'll be very grateful, thanks.

taffhammer
29 Aug 2008, 06:58 AM
agree we should not live in the past but football fans are like that and never forgive and forget. im sure sheffield united would fans would never forget it either.

slightly less forgetable than only having to draw with wigan at home to stay up.

i am quite surprised by you guys and your views of that game. yes WE have all come away from a game thinking we have been robbed. in 1990 in the cup semi final tony gale was sent off for "for being the last man" after a foul on a forest player. he was in their half, the forest player was running to the touch line and another defender was between him and the goal.it changed the game ,we lost . of course at the time we were robbed, of course the whole world was against us .but when you look back a referee had to make a call, got it wrong .he's not biased.he made a mistake simple as that.

saturdays game is so going to hinge on a dodgy call.

BlackburnRover
29 Aug 2008, 07:31 AM
Don't misunderstand, I've got nothing against you lot for it, and I'm not really interested in getting into the whole £5 mil arguement. That's all been and gone, and if it'd have been us I'd have said thank you very much too.

There are always dubious decisions, and everyone gets annoyed but I never walk away thinking it was dodgy, just plain inept. But that game was so ridiculous, I've honestly never seen anything like it. It was OK until we went 1 up, then it was like someone flicked a refereeing switch, it was one thing after another, of ridiculous decisions.

Hopefully I come across as reasonably intelligent and fair, once the dust has settled at least. My dad's always saying that with the level of money riding on results these days do I honestly think there isn't some corruption at the refereeing level, and I disagree with him. But, I honestly walked away from that one thinking "we've actually been done, I can't believe it". After most games like that the fans are having a good moan about the ref, but after that one people were more shocked than angry.

Anyhow, I could be talking complete arse, but there was just too much that the ref and linesmen could have cleared up between them for it to be just poor decisions. We all see that every week, this was nothing like it.

A dodgy call's ok, we got one for our winner at Everton. It's when it's one after another of very, very, poor decisions that you start to think this isn't just down to ineptitude.

Put it this way, out of the hundreds of games I've been to in the last 30 odd years and some very poor decisions for and against us that's the only one where I've truly thought we'd been done, even after all the dust has settled.

dring1
29 Aug 2008, 07:41 AM
slightly less forgetable than only having to draw with wigan at home to stay up.

i am quite surprised by you guys and your views of that game. yes WE have all come away from a game thinking we have been robbed. in 1990 in the cup semi final tony gale was sent off for "for being the last man" after a foul on a forest player. he was in their half, the forest player was running to the touch line and another defender was between him and the goal.it changed the game ,we lost . of course at the time we were robbed, of course the whole world was against us .but when you look back a referee had to make a call, got it wrong .he's not biased.he made a mistake simple as that.

saturdays game is so going to hinge on a dodgy call.

west ham broke the rules but im sure that has happened with a lot of clubs. the only thing that dissapoints me is they got a huge fine were others have been deducted points. bury did a similer thing in fielding an ineligable player in the fa cup came forward and told the truth but ended up getting kicked out. my mate is a season ticket holder at gigg lane and to this day he is still angry that west ham got away with it. just look at luton town, they have been punished big time so every one worying about rovers should spare a thought for their fans.

Revelian
29 Aug 2008, 08:09 AM
We were never going to like the colour claret anyway. :D

Revelian