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shawn12011
29 Sep 2003, 08:22 PM
There has been a lot of talk, including on "The Soccer Show", refering to the need to secure homefield advantage against the Metrostars. The away goals rule, used throught the rest of the world was not refered to as a tiebreaker in the November 20, 2002 release from MLS. So homefield against the Metros (assuming that is the way things fall) means little. Here is the release, if someone else has other information I would appreciate it being shared so everyone can be clear on this.


MLS Outlines 2003 Competition Format



MLS teams will face a tougher road as they try to earn a trip to MLS Cup 2003.

NEW YORK (Wednesday, November 20, 2002) - Major League Soccer’s Competition Committee unveiled details of the 2003 MLS Calendar, which includes significant changes to the League’s regular-season and playoff formats to bring MLS in line with the rest of the world’s top leagues while preserving the drama and excitement of the uniquely American postseason concept. MLS Deputy Commissioner Ivan Gazidis, who collaborated with Don Garber to abandon the shootout tiebreaker and the scoreboard clock shortly after the Commissioner’s arrival in 1999, outlined the format under which the League’s 10 teams will compete next season:

30-game regular season adds two games to regular-season slate and maximizes weekend dates


2003 campaign kicks off on Saturday, April 5 live on ABC Sports, with the defending MLS Cup Champion Los Angeles Galaxy facing the 2002 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Champion Columbus Crew at Crew Stadium; MLS Soccer Saturday’s “appointment viewing” at 4:00 p.m. ET continues


Eighth regular season concludes on the weekend of Sunday, October 26, with the 2003 MLS Cup Playoffs commencing on the weekend of November 1


Eight teams advance to postseason (top four teams from each Conference)


Conference Semifinal series conducted under a home-and-home, aggregate goal format; one-game Conference Championships determine MLS Cup Finalists. The higher-seeded team will host both the Conference Semifinal Game Two and the Conference Final.


If a Conference Semifinal series or a Conference Final is tied, then a 30-minute golden-goal overtime and penalty kicks, if necessary, are employed to determine which team advances to MLS Cup 2003


MLS Cup 2003 on Sunday, November 23 at the Home Depot Center in Los Angeles


2003 Pepsi MLS All-Star Game on July 26 or August 2, also at the Home Depot Center
“In making these changes to our schedule and playoff formats, we have listened to our fans, who have been asking for our playoffs to follow the international standard,” said Gazidis. “More weekend games and the extended fall portion of our schedule enable our teams to work even more closely with their soccer communities, while the dual-style playoff format ensures that every playoff team plays at least one home game in the postseason and retains home field advantage for higher seeded teams in our Conference Championship games.”

The aggregate goal format which will be employed at the Conference Semifinal stage for the first time in League history follows the lead of various international competitions, including the Copa Libertadores (annual South American club championship) and the CONCACAF Champions Cup (annual club championship involving teams from CONCACAF). In a fashion similar to those competitions, the team that scores the most goals in the home-and-away series will advance to the Conference Final. If the teams have scored the same number of goals after 180 minutes, a 30-minute golden-goal overtime will be played followed by a penalty kick shootout, if necessary.

The defending MLS champion Los Angeles Galaxy kicks off its 2003 season at Columbus Crew Stadium on April 5, live on ABC Sports. Eight of the remaining nine MLS teams will open their portions of the League’s eighth season during the weekends of either April 12 or April 19, while the Galaxy christen the much-anticipated Home Depot Center on June 7.

"The day we roll out the ball at the Home Depot Center is another defining moment in the history of Major League Soccer and the sport itself," said Gazidis. "This state-of-the-art soccer-facility will not only be the permanent home to the Los Angeles Galaxy and our U.S. National Teams, but will serve as a spiritual home to American soccer fans everywhere."

Major League Soccer’s two annual marquee events, the Pepsi MLS All-Star Weekend and MLS Cup, will both call Los Angeles home in 2003. The Pepsi MLS All-Stars are showcased on either July 26 or August 2, televised live on ABC Sports. The 30-game regular season ends on October 26, while each of the League’s playoff games occur on weekends, leading up to Major League Soccer’s eighth title game, MLS Cup 2003, on November 23, also live on ABC.

Under the 30-game regular-season schedule, each MLS team faces its four Conference opponents four times each (twice at home, twice away), along with a home-and-away series against each non-Conference foe. The additional four games will be based on competitive seeding against non-Conference opponents. For instance, competitive seeding allows an additional contest between the MLS Cup 2002 finalists, New England and Los Angeles. In summation, teams play 16 intra-Conference games, and 14 non-Conference contests, facing 4 opponents from the opposite Conference three times each and one just twice.

Following is a list of the four opponents based on the competitive seeding:

#1 Seeds (East/West) -
NE, LA
NE vs. LA, SJ, DAL, COL (1, 2, 3, 4)
LA vs. NE, CLB, CHI, MET

#2 Seeds (East/West) -
CLB, SJ
CLB vs. LA, SJ, DAL, KC (1, 2, 3, 5)
SJ vs. NE, CLB, CHI, DC

#3 Seeds (East/West) -
CHI, DAL
CHI vs. LA, SJ, COL, KC (1, 2, 4, 5)
DAL vs. NE, CLB, MET, DC

#4 Seeds (East/West) -
MET, COL
MET vs. LA, DAL, COL, KC (1, 3, 4, 5)
COL vs. NE, CHI, MET, DC

#5 Seeds (East/West) -
DC, KC
DC vs. SJ, DAL, COL, KC (2, 3, 4, 5)
KC vs. CLB, CHI, MET, DC



The 2003 Master MLS Schedule is slated to be released in mid-December, while dates and venues for teams’ 2003 MLS Spring Training plans will be released in the near future. Major League Soccer’s 2003 SuperDraft takes place on Friday, January 17, 2003, in conjunction with the NSCAA convention in Kansas City, Missouri.

Jose L. Couso
30 Sep 2003, 08:41 PM
And here is a link showing the numbers:

Playoff Numbers (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=1651209#post1651209)

It was originally posted by HalaMadrid.

I tried quoting the table, but it did not work. :(

Cweedchop
30 Sep 2003, 08:59 PM
I think home advantage is appreciable..

Having the second leg at home is a big advantage IMHO.. First of all, you already know going into the match what you need to win the series.. Secondly, if overtime is required, you have your home crowd behind you as well as the La Norte backdrop during PK's if they become neccesary..

And lastly, if you are the higher seeded team, you could very well host the semi-final match should the higher seeded team lose in the other playoff series..

Don't sleep on the hidden advantages....

Serie Zed
30 Sep 2003, 09:14 PM
There's a big homefield advantage in the semis, but virtually none in the quarters (1st round).

If MLS wanted to improve it, they'd give the higher seed the tie-breaker in the event that aggregate goals are even after both legs.

That would make the regular season worth something substantial and would put it on the lower-seeded team to win it outright over 180 minutes.

shawn12011
30 Sep 2003, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by Cweedchop
I think home advantage is appreciable..

Having the second leg at home is a big advantage IMHO.. First of all, you already know going into the match what you need to win the series.. Secondly, if overtime is required, you have your home crowd behind you as well as the La Norte backdrop during PK's if they become neccesary..

I just don't think the advantage is that big without the away goals rule. I can agree to disagree though.

And lastly, if you are the higher seeded team, you could very well host the semi-final match should the higher seeded team lose in the other playoff series..

Don't sleep on the hidden advantages.... Being 2nd or 3rd has no bearing on hosting in the conference finals. Both teams would be higher seeded than the 4th seed who would have to win in order to be able to host.

There just are not any significant hidden advantages between 2nd and 3rd, IMHO.

Allan Quatermain
30 Sep 2003, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by shawn12011
I just don't think the advantage is that big without the away goals rule. I can agree to disagree though.

Being 2nd or 3rd has no bearing on hosting in the conference finals. Both teams would be higher seeded than the 4th seed who would have to win in order to be able to host.

There just are not any significant hidden advantages between 2nd and 3rd, IMHO.

I agree. In fact, I would rather we be the three seed than the two so that we could have the first game at home.

Of course, given how everything can go, I think it's safe to say I would just assume we make the playoffs at all.

ursula
01 Oct 2003, 12:52 AM
The weird thing about all of this though is that if we play the metros in the first round, I'd say we have a distinct advantage playing on their Field Turf.

shawn12011
01 Oct 2003, 10:11 AM
I also think the crowd factor that Chris brought up is just as big in the first game. If you can pull a decisive win in game one, say 2-0 or 3-0, then even knowing what you need to do it is tough coming back from that in leg 2.

TheFarSide
01 Oct 2003, 10:52 AM
We have had 10 overtimes this year and have won not a single one. In fact we have lost 3. I wonder if our standing would be better if there wasn't OT. I know we would be in front of the MetroScum without OT.

-The Far Side

fatbastard
01 Oct 2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by TheFarSide
I wonder if our standing would be better if there wasn't OT. I know we would be in front of the MetroScum without OT.
There was something on MLSNET about this recently, maybe in a First XI, but I can't find it. IT listed all the OT games NJ (and LA) have won, and all we've lost. We would be ahead of them without OT, and I think there was one other position change too. Sorry I couldn't provide the link to the story, but I remember reading it. mlsnet is hard to find stuff on, especially older stuff, like from way back in September.