Etcheverry radio interview

[purojogo]

Anyone else heard what was said on the interviews Marco gave on Spanish radio...He says he is tired of being substituted when the game is still on the line, that he gets along very well with his teammates, but not too well with the coach and his tactics....That this is probaly his last year in MLS (some offer from Qatar came up in the conversation)...What else ...Oh, yeah, that he loves this league and would love to return as a coach in the future, and that he plans to get some advice from Bruce Arena on coaching and whatnot.....

[onefineesq]

Great!!! the answer to my prayers!!! he needed to be retired THIS year .....

[Knave]

I'd like to see Etch brought in as an assistant coach to Arena for the national team. If he works out there then by all means give him an MLS team. And perhaps given my reputation as a Marco basher you'll all be surprised to read this but I'd really love to see him come back someday as head coach for DC United.

Also, are there any other details from the interview that you or anyone else can share?

[shawn12011]

Originally posted by purojogo
Anyone else heard what was said on the interviews Marco gave on Spanish radio...He says he is tired of being substituted when the game is still on the line, that he gets along very well with his teammates, but not too well with the coach and his tactics....That this is probaly his last year in MLS (some offer from Qatar came up in the conversation)...What else ...Oh, yeah, that he loves this league and would love to return as a coach in the future, and that he plans to get some advice from Bruce Arena on coaching and whatnot.....



Well I'm tired of seeing Etch pass the ball parallel to Etch Jr. (Q2) and not looking up for Cerritos or Stewart making vertical runs into dangerous space. Thansk for all you have done Etch but please look into Qatar or better yet become a coach. Just stop acting like putting away one PK makes up for another 84 minutes of generally dull play. Also show some repect and don't leave the sidelines early in a OT game. You might get along even better with your temmates if you supported them a little more.

[Allan Quatermain]

You guys are off base. Etch played alright yesterday, and had a number of sublime passes -- including to Cerritos and Stewart.

I think he adds great value to the team. I want him on the field. And I don't think he should have been subbed yesterday. Frankly, when he came out was precisely the situation where he might have been truly valuable. With NY having to press forward, Etch could have put some good balls forward on counter attacks.

[BroonAleMagpie]

With this attitude, Marco, please feel free to exit at any time. I'm sure you'll enjoy Qatar.

What has anyone ever seen about Marco that makes them think he would be a good coach? His ability to let his mouth get him thrown out of games? His appreciation of fine, free-flowing football? His diving? His ego? His temper?

He was an excellent player four or five years ago. He's got plenty of laurels from those years. He should go rest on them (assuming they're not already worn out fromrelcining...)

[JoeW]

Let's take Marco at his word. Unless the offer to Qatar drops through, that means he wouldn't retire with DCU and we likely wouldn't get an allocation for him. That's bad news--b/c we (like most MLS teams) will have some difficult cap decisions to make.

I've heard Arena say that he thought Marco would make a brilliant assistant and that he'd love to have him. I don't know if Bruce was being sincere or just playing to Marco's ego (Bruce does stuff like that well). While many have ragged on Marco being a bad example for youth with his lack of defensive effort and ref-baiting, clearly he takes an interest in putting younger players under his wing and focusing on them and their development, mentoring/coaching/instructing them. And I think some of the parallels between Bolivian and USA soccer development are there (Marco was part of the initial Tahuichi classes, the USA U-17 residency program has some similarity to that, both countries haven't been able to rely on powerful clubs producing the players they need for their national side).

One other allocation thought--assuming Stoichkov retires this off-season (which is not a given), might that bring an allocation? Sounds dubious but remember, Dallas got an allocation for Lubos Kubik's retirement (who was with Dallas all of one season, most of which he missed b/c of injury).

[shawn12011]

Originally posted by Allan Quatermain
You guys are off base. Etch played alright yesterday, and had a number of sublime passes -- including to Cerritos and Stewart.

I think he adds great value to the team. I want him on the field. And I don't think he should have been subbed yesterday. Frankly, when he came out was precisely the situation where he might have been truly valuable. With NY having to press forward, Etch could have put some good balls forward on counter attacks.

- Those passes were within 30 yards of the goals. Etch does not pick his head up at times this season, yesterday was a prime example. He did in the San Jose game two weeks ago and it lead to Stewarts goal. Yesterday his head was down and he saw nothing going on 20 yards past where he was standing.

- He has played better this season

- He was not making those passes yesterday so why would he all of the sudden start to?

[Eastern Bear]

I saw at least 4 significant giveaways by Etch. I think he played like crap. When he pushes up too far and dogs it back on D the Metros were able to zip right through the midfield to create opportunities.

[Jose L. Couso]

Another Marco bashing thread.

Whatever.

Originally posted by shawn12011
Just stop acting like putting away one PK makes up for another 84 minutes of generally dull play.

Well it may have been dull, but it was sure better than the incessant bombardment the Metrostars assaulted on DC United's goal as soon as Marco left the field.

[Renegade]

Obviously you weren't around for the 1999 season and play offs when Marco carried the entire team to the championship.

Obviously, you weren't around for the Interamerican Cup or the anything of glory for United.

If you were you would show a little respect for the reason we have a history of Championships. The people who hate Marco don't realize that Marco is doing the exact same things he did in the past, and its just that our forwards and midfielders are not finishing, and have not finished for the last three and one half years.

DC United would be like Columbus the Scum and 85% of the the MLS Clubs but for Marco. I challange any of you Marco haters to show me the MLS player past or present with Marco's stats and Championships. Name just one. Forget the Championships name one player who has played with the injuries Marco has in the last 3 yerars. Name one midfielder in all of MLS with the victories. Marco has won honors in every league and at every level of his career. Only Stoich has done better career wise than Marco, but not in the MLS.

[McOwen]

Originally posted by purojogo
Anyone else heard what was said on the interviews Marco gave on Spanish radio...He says he is tired of being substituted when the game is still on the line, that he gets along very well with his teammates, but not too well with the coach and his tactics....That this is probaly his last year in MLS (some offer from Qatar came up in the conversation)...What else ...Oh, yeah, that he loves this league and would love to return as a coach in the future, and that he plans to get some advice from Bruce Arena on coaching and whatnot.....

WTF?! People... did you ever stop to look at who posted this? Stop to wonder EXACTLY what damn interview he is talking about?! (was this last night? last week? last year?!!!!!) Was it just a guy in New Jersey that heard this?

Personally until I hear this from an actual United fan that speaks Spanish as his first language, I am going to assume that Marco has been as great a team player as Ray Hudson has been saying publicly ALL ALONG.


Of course we wouldnt anyone to actually cite anything meaningful if it gives us a chance to dig up more speculative BS on Marco, would we?

[shawn12011]

Note: today's date is September 29th, 2003 not 1999


This is not about hating Marco but asking him to do more than he is doing.


Jose, they went into the "Protect a 1-0 lead shell" by then. Marco being in there or not had nothing to do with that.

[Knave]

Originally posted by Renegade
Obviously you weren't around for the 1999 season and play offs when Marco carried the entire team to the championship.

Obviously, you weren't around for the Interamerican Cup or the anything of glory for United.

If you were you would show a little respect for the reason we have a history of Championships. The people who hate Marco don't realize that Marco is doing the exact same things he did in the past, and its just that our forwards and midfielders are not finishing, and have not finished for the last three and one half years.
This is just wrong. And quite frankly statements of this sort do more to disparage the quality and importance of Etcheverry's play in the early years of MLS than any criticism the so-called Marco bashers level about his current level of play. Etch was an astonishing player for the first three or four years of this league. He was a virtuoso and at his best he orchestrated entire games from start to finish. Watch old tapes. You will see the difference in his play. Everything about his game was quicker, more exact, more cunning and more decisive than it is today. But those times have passed and all we get now are occasional moments of brilliance. Today he isn't even half the player he was back then. His quickness (that's different from speed, he was never a truly mobile player) has gone with age and even his skills too have diminished. His precision is diminished considerably. So to suggest that he's still doing the same thing as always is wrong. It means that you're either (at best) seeing the current Etch through rose colored glasses or (at worst) you're the one who has forgotten just how good a player Etch was back in the early days.

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Oh, and McOwen I thought about that too but as you know I'm a trusting guy. ;)

And doesn't Etch always say he has a standing offer from Qatar?

[Jose L. Couso]

Originally posted by shawn12011
Jose, they went into the "Protect a 1-0 lead shell" by then. Marco being in there or not had nothing to do with that.

You may or may not be right.

The fact is that Marco always asks for the ball. His possession would have helped immensely.

That and he could have sprung someone on a counter.

But the fact is that the bombardment ocurred after he was gone...

[Renegade]

Why not ask any of the other 13 players who played yesterday to score one goal. Ask any of the ones who have not won anything for us to score one goal. Don't be so happy to pull down the one remaining player who has done so much for the glory of our club.
Every day I read how this player is great and that player is great, what have they done great. Marco has done great things for our club. We should appreciate and respect him for that. When the player steps on the field that can do what Marco does and shows it I'll ask Marco to step aside but until then you Marco haters are just disrepectful to him and our club.

[shawn12011]

Originally posted by Jose L. Couso
You may or may not be right.

The fact is that Marco always asks for the ball. His possession would have helped immensely.

That and he could have sprung someone on a counter.

But the fact is that the bombardment ocurred after he was gone...


You are correct and have a point about when it happened. However IMHO Marco's inclusion would not have changed that strategy from the man who uses the "road system". Ray Hudson.


Renegade - Stewart, Quintanilla, Convey, Kovalenko and Cerritos are all capable of taking that PK. Now one here disrespects what Marco has done in the past but as Knave pointed out this is not the Marco of the first 3-4 years of MLS.

[weasel]

Originally posted by JoeW
Unless the offer to Qatar drops through, that means he wouldn't retire with DCU and we likely wouldn't get an allocation for him.

Let's see, it's either:

A) Etch stays with DCU for another season

or

B) Etch leaves, but we don't get an allocation


I'll take B. I'd rather suck up an allocation and try to find a replacement on a free transfer.

Jeebus, why can't the guy just retire already?

[purojogo]

Originally posted by McOwen
WTF?! People... did you ever stop to look at who posted this? Stop to wonder EXACTLY what damn interview he is talking about?! (was this last night? last week? last year?!!!!!) Was it just a guy in New Jersey that heard this?

Personally until I hear this from an actual United fan that speaks Spanish as his first language, I am going to assume that Marco has been as great a team player as Ray Hudson has been saying publicly ALL ALONG.


Of course we wouldnt anyone to actually cite anything meaningful if it gives us a chance to dig up more speculative BS on Marco, would we?
Originally posted by McOwen
WTF?! People... did you ever stop to look at who posted this? Stop to wonder EXACTLY what damn interview he is talking about?! (was this last night? last week? last year?!!!!!) Was it just a guy in New Jersey that heard this?

Personally until I hear this from an actual United fan that speaks Spanish as his first language, I am going to assume that Marco has been as great a team player as Ray Hudson has been saying publicly ALL ALONG.


Of course we wouldnt anyone to actually cite anything meaningful if it gives us a chance to dig up more speculative BS on Marco, would we?
Admittedly, I am a Metro fan. However - as much as it might shock you- i did not start the thread to deceive anyone (that job i leave to decepticon or whatever his name is)....I certainly would use much more imagination if i were lying....The interview was from Sunday on Radio Unica's "unicamente MLS" (9PM-10PM ET every Sunday) Heck, you guys have a 'Barra Brava', so you should know someone who heard at least part of the interview....The funny thing is that Etcheverry had been earlier interviewed in Radio wado, which does Metro games in NY/NJ....This was during the postgame analysis....He expressed the very same views, although he sounded a bit more annoyed (i guess because the game had just ended)
Can't say i like your team or anything (i certainly don't), but I am in no way the second coming of the Laserbeak freak, rest assured

[McOwen]

Originally posted by purojogo
Admittedly, I am a Metro fan. However - as much as it might shock you- i did not start the thread to deceive anyone (that job i leave to decepticon or whatever his name is)....I certainly would use much more imagination if i were lying....The interview was from Sunday on Radio Unica's "unicamente MLS" (9PM-10PM ET every Sunday) Heck, you guys have a 'Barra Brava', so you should know someone who heard at least part of the interview....The funny thing is that Etcheverry had been earlier interviewed in Radio wado, which does Metro games in NY/NJ....This was during the postgame analysis....He expressed the very same views, although he sounded a bit more annoyed (i guess because the game had just ended)
Can't say i like your team or anything (i certainly don't), but I am in no way the second coming of the Laserbeak freak, rest assured

Thanks :) --Despite my tone, my annoyance is/was with DC fans still willing to just assume the worst with Marco before even stopping to consider/check the facts. no hard feelings and thanks Puro :D