Sick of offsides rule!

[SUDano]

I know I'll get beat up on this one. This thread is about the calling of the offsides rule during the game and not the rule itself. (We'll leave that for another time) I just watched the DC/NY tape and again I see wrong off sides calls and they are always in direct goal scoring situations. (Obviously because the nature of the offsides rule) My guess is 65-70% of calls are actually WRONG! But soccer fans and officials chalk it up as part of the game. Or they blame the ineptitude of the humans making the call. I don't. We are asking human being to accomplish something simply not humanly possible. #1-Determine the exact moment a ball touches a foot 35 yards away while his view is obscured my many large strong athletes #2-While determining the speed, direction AND location of many offensive and defensive players #3-While himself moving to keep inline with the last defender #4-Making an instantanious decision of about 20 variables #5-Then raise his flag or not raise a flag #6-Then dealing with the responses of 20 players, thousands of fans, and many more TV viewers. Simply pure insanity!
I don't know the solution but it ain't what we got now.

[Bill Archer]

Well then we're even, because I'm tired of imbeciles who claim to know something about soccer and yet refer to the offside rule as "offsides".

[classicalmusic]

Originally posted by Bill Archer
Well then we're even, because I'm tired of imbeciles who claim to know something about soccer and yet refer to the offside rule as "offsides".


One small error and you brand him an imbecile?!?!?!

Some justification, indeed!

[SUDano]

And I also left a space between off and sides at one point. You missed that one Bill. Any other miniscule points?

[SUDano]

OK I'm and idiot and an imbecile. Got it.
Any comments on the method or accuracy on the way offside (No s) is called and the frustration some of us have at it's possible frequent inaccuracy.

[InterSoccr6]

How is this for an idea, I think there should be a new rule. Soccer Coaches have 1 use of a play challenge like american football. Once the ball is out of play, a coach can challenge a call, whether it be offsides or a foul in the box that never occurred. A panel of referees watch the play on a screen, in various speeds. If a play is overturned, the challenging team either gets the goal if one was scored, or the ball is spotted where the mistake was made. This would solve a world of problems. It's actually not a bad idea at all.

[Bill Archer]

Originally posted by InterSoccr6
How is this for an idea, I think there should be a new rule. Soccer Coaches have 1 use of a play challenge like american football. Once the ball is out of play, a coach can challenge a call, whether it be offsides or a foul in the box that never occurred. A panel of referees watch the play on a screen, in various speeds. If a play is overturned, the challenging team either gets the goal if one was scored, or the ball is spotted where the mistake was made. This would solve a world of problems. It's actually not a bad idea at all.

This is just possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, are you people on medication?

[davidjd]

Your team lost the match. Right?

[InterSoccr6]

Originally posted by Bill Archer
This is just possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, are you people on medication?

oh is that right? and how exactly is this idea stupid? explain.

[SUDano]

That's it! I do have back pain and take alot of ibruprofin. It's the medication that's making me frustrated at wrong offside (No S) calls. So let it be said. Mr. Archer and Mr. Segroves have no issue with method or accuracy of said offside call.

[Bill Archer]

Originally posted by InterSoccr6
oh is that right? and how exactly is this idea stupid? explain.

I'm sorry. I was mistaken.

It's YOU who are stupid. My bad.

[InterSoccr6]

when a bad referee call costs you a match, you need something like that to validate your outrage.

[classicalmusic]

Originally posted by Mike Segroves
The real imbeciles are people that hide behind subclever usernames.


Actually, on Big Soccer, the name "Mike Segroves" is synonymous with "imbecile."

[SUDano]

Originally posted by davidjd
Your team lost the match. Right?

Actually no. Live far far away from both towns. Have no favorite team. That's why I posted. I just love the game but don't like the frustration of incorrect offside (No s) calls. I feel it adversely affects what is truly great about this game. Wanted to post to get it off my chest. Do you think they call'em just about right or get them significantly wrong.

[InterSoccr6]

Originally posted by Bill Archer
I'm sorry. I was mistaken.

It's YOU who are stupid. My bad.

oh, taking a personal shot out of a discussion about the game, that shows alot about the level of maturity you posess, its clear the only one thats stupid is you. And sure you'll reply with another personal shot, thats ok, but you'll only make yourself appear to be more of a dumba$$.

[InterSoccr6]

Originally posted by classicalmusic
Actually, on Big Soccer, the name "Mike Segroves" is synonymous with "imbecile."

ha, thats a good one, i like your style.

[Bill Archer]

Originally posted by SUDano
My guess is 65-70% of calls are actually WRONG!

A psoitively absurd and indefensible statement.

We are asking human being to accomplish something simply not humanly possible. #1-Determine the exact moment a ball touches a foot 35 yards away while his view is obscured my many large strong athletes

What do you mean? Is there normally a crowd of Defensive linemen huddled around him? I don't know how somebody being "strong" obscures someone's view, but as for "large", unless you're standing behind Brad Friedel or something, you can see just fine.

#2-While determining the speed, direction AND location of many offensive and defensive players

Absurd.

The AR needs to "determine" the position of two players: the second to last defender and the object of the pass.

#3-While himself moving to keep inline with the last defender

You're just not good at this soccer stuff, are you?

The AR is responsible for being in line with the SECOND to last defender.

The last defender is usually the keeper; most of the time you can stay even with him from a rocking chair.

#4-Making an instantanious decision of about 20 variables

List them for me, will you?

#5-Then raise his flag or not raise a flag

Boy, now THERE'S a chore. That goddam thing gets mighty heavy.

#6-Then dealing with the responses of 20 players, thousands of fans, and many more TV viewers.

"Deal with" in what way?

The center sometimes has a guy or two in his face, but that's true of ANY call.

The crowds' reaction is not something you have to "deal with" in any meaningful way.

And I wish you'd tell me what the AR has to do to "deal with" the "reaction" of TV viewers.

[Bill Archer]

Originally posted by InterSoccr6
ha, thats a good one, i like your style.

I dunno, I'm thinking the stiletto heels are a little much for daytime; the skirt is just right though, and I love the pearls.

[InterSoccr6]

Everyone just shut up on the subject, its obvious Bill Archer has the game all figured out.

After 15 years of playing the game, and 3 semi professionally, i've never come across someone such as Bill Archer, a guy who has referee experience, a resume chock full of teams hes played for professionally, and a DISH satellite system that allows him to zoom in and witness the referees accurately calling the game, yes hes one of a kind.

[SUDano]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bill Archer
[B]A psoitively absurd and indefensible statement.

You misspelled positively