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Lovefutball
17 Aug 2008, 12:13 AM
I'm about to start Nike's Bootcamp program tomorrow. Those who haven't checked it out ( I really recommend you do, nikesoccer.com), its a training program that requires about 1hr - 1.5hr of training per day for 10 weeks.

I am also a Muslim and the month of Ramadan in which I fast(no food/ no water) from sunrise to sunset starts in September, in the middle of this training program as well as all the other training I do.

In this situations, I usually look up when I can eat dinner, and start training 1.5hrs before that time. So my question is, how will the lack of water in my system affect the results from this training program? Also, what is the best way to go about mixing my training with fasting?

You can eat before the sunrises so I will be waking up early and stocking up on calories, taking my vitamins, drinking protein shakes, and energy filled food.

spejic
17 Aug 2008, 04:57 AM
I don't think the food will be a problem as long as you are taking in more calories than you expend in exercise each day. The water may be a problem if it is hot. The body just does not store that much, and on a hot day you can lose a lot. I don't think there is much you can do. Wear the lightest clothes and put on a good sunscreen to stay cooler. I'm not a doctor, but I think you will be ok for 90 minutes of even hard training per day.

Just make sure to know the signs of dehydration (generally from light dehydration to serious: dry mouth, clammy skin, no longer sweating, cramping, dizziness, tingling in fingers) and stop if you feel them. Once you get dehydrated, the main problems for your soccer will be lack of clear thinking and a big drop in endurance.

Oh, and don't make the mistake of drinking a crazy amount of water the moment the sun sets. Drinking too much too soon can be just as dangerous (or more) to you as the dehydration. Take some food with the drink.

Lovefutball
17 Aug 2008, 11:57 AM
^Alright thanks, that was helpful

Yeah its usually thirst that gets me. But later in the afternoon it is a bit cooler so I think I will be able to hold out.

Also there is the option is training after I eat. You can eat right when the sun is of the horizon, so theres still a lot of light. If I do that, I'll probably just snack a protein bar and water and get to training but take water breaks. I will probably do these a few days a week, the only reason I won't do it every day is because I want to have dinner with my family

arsenalfc08
17 Aug 2008, 01:06 PM
If your doing nike bootcamp don't worry you'll be fine. I did it and it wasn't hard at all, it was really easy and I was kinda disapointed.

BigGuy
17 Aug 2008, 04:50 PM
Interesting Post

How far is this Nike thing from where you live?

I am not a muslim but I heard if you are far away from home you maybe dispensed with the fasting isn't that right? That is how Iran's National team deals with it when playing an international.

I had some players who were Muslim. I left it up to them if they could play or not. They told me they can still play even though they fasted. I had enough other players so I did not have to play them. I see them in practice and decide before the game how long they could play or if they would play. They always played

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Eating for soccer

Use this as a rough plan and fit it to your needs

Carb load for three to four days before going, then eat lots of protein for three or four days after. Get lots of calcium, and eat lots of veggies and fruits to get valuable vitamins and minerals. when you can eat and drink...... it will help tons in injury prevention.

Good luck

Lovefutball
17 Aug 2008, 06:02 PM
If your doing nike bootcamp don't worry you'll be fine. I did it and it wasn't hard at all, it was really easy and I was kinda disapointed.

The 10 week? Today was my first day and it seems pretty easy, but I'm still doing the "Basic Training" portion. Do you feel like you improved 30% like they say?

Interesting Post

How far is this Nike thing from where you live?

I am not a muslim but I heard if you are far away from home you maybe dispensed with the fasting isn't that right? That is how Iran's National team deals with it when playing an international.

I had some players who were Muslim. I left it up to them if they could play or not. They told me they can still play even though they fasted. I had enough other players so I did not have to play them. I see them in practice and decide before the game how long they could play or if they would play. They always played

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Eating for soccer

Use this as a rough plan and fit it to your needs

Carb load for three to four days before going, then eat lots of protein for three or four days after. Get lots of calcium, and eat lots of veggies and fruits to get valuable vitamins and minerals. when you can eat and drink...... it will help tons in injury prevention.

Good luck

The Nike Bootcamp is all done virtually using nikesoccer.com Its all actually pretty cool, players and coaches alike should check it out!

Yeah, I forgot the distance, but your not allowed to fast after you've traveled a certain distance from your house.

Ramadan isn't set to a month, it changes with the moon cycle, so occasionally it will over lap with one of my seasons, but I still manage to play as well, like your players.

Thanks for the eating tips, I'll keep it all in mind. I'm also interested in Vitamin supplements if anyone knows of any good ones that will help out. I take performance ones everyday as well.

arsenalfc08
17 Aug 2008, 06:10 PM
For bootcamp you do the same power drills throught the whole basic and advanced training they just add more reps and sets to it.

Lovefutball
17 Aug 2008, 07:29 PM
For bootcamp you do the same power drills throught the whole basic and advanced training they just add more reps and sets to it.

does it really make you thirsty like running would, or does it just wear you out in a way like lifting does?

arsenalfc08
17 Aug 2008, 08:18 PM
does it really make you thirsty like running would, or does it just wear you out in a way like lifting does?

Honestly, I didn't get worn out, it was like a warm up. For me it really wasn't hard at all, it was too easy in my opinion and got boring quickly as I kept doing the same stuff.

Antonio81
17 Aug 2008, 10:30 PM
It would probably be best to avoid training alltogether in the day(espcially in Texas.) In Florida, for example, most training/matches(both youth and adult semi-pro) are late in the evening or at night. Also if, you use any supplements or proteins, it would be best to avoid them until the fast is over, as they require alot of water. Vitamins are good.

Lovefutball
18 Aug 2008, 12:48 AM
Yeah training will be later in the afternoon.

So a protein shake early in the morning would make me thirsty later in the day? I guess it might be better to drink it before bed than.

Antonio81
19 Aug 2008, 09:55 PM
Normally its better to drink protein after training(to recuperate,) but if you´re not eating the entire day then one in the morning might not be a bad idea.

Italia56
26 Aug 2008, 08:49 PM
does the bootcamp really work or is it regular training

Lovefutball
26 Aug 2008, 09:36 PM
So far its been more core training, theres nothing to loose by checking it out though...

arsenalfc08
27 Aug 2008, 04:08 PM
does the bootcamp really work or is it regular training

I did it for the tests. 20m sprint,agility,etc. The core training I felt was too easy and became boring because it was the same stuff every other day just more reps.

Lovefutball
27 Aug 2008, 05:26 PM
I did it for the tests. 20m sprint,agility,etc. The core training I felt was too easy and became boring because it was the same stuff every other day just more reps.

The only one I've found actually hard was the Front Bridge, what did you think of it?

arsenalfc08
28 Aug 2008, 02:30 PM
The only one I've found actually hard was the Front Bridge, what did you think of it?

That was the only one I struggled with. Other than that it was easy. I did like those tests though like the 20m sprint,vertical jump,etc.

Lovefutball
28 Aug 2008, 10:18 PM
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