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YankBastard
11 Aug 2008, 02:07 PM
One thing you Frenchies aren't good at....backing up your trash talk.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/news/newsid=188791.html#lezak+saves+best+last
NicolasN.
11 Aug 2008, 02:44 PM
One thing you Frenchies aren't good at....backing up your trash talk.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/swimming/news/newsid=188791.html#lezak+saves+best+last
How come I haven't heard any trash talk ? :rolleyes:
Pierre-Henri
11 Aug 2008, 03:44 PM
Never heard about that either. Bernard is a nice guy, I doubt he would say such a thing. Do NBC reporters hear voices in their heads ?
Read the article : "some media reported". Wow : the "some people say" gimmick is world class journalism, for sure.
lefutur
11 Aug 2008, 03:52 PM
Its been repeated ad nauseum in the US media for days now. On the TV before the event it was mentioned at least 50 times, and then after the race the person who interviewed the swimmers talked about it again.
I did a search on google.fr to see the actual quote in french to see if the translation had been skewed at all but couldn't find it mentioned anywhere in the French news.
Although I did see that the Americans did trash talk the Aussies back in 2004 when one of the swimmers said that the US would "smash them like guitars".
LJSoccer
11 Aug 2008, 03:53 PM
Never heard about that either. Bernard is a nice guy, I doubt he would say such a thing. Do NBC reporters hear voices in their heads ?
Read the article : "some media reported". Wow : the "some people say" gimmick is world class journalism, for sure.
The NBC reporters must hear voices in their heads. Frenchmen making threats. That's funnier than Jerry Lewis. Giving lessons in surrender maybe, threats never!
Pierre-Henri
11 Aug 2008, 04:28 PM
The NBC reporters must hear voices in their heads. Frenchmen making threats. That's funnier than Jerry Lewis. Giving lessons in surrender maybe, threats never!
Tiens, ça faisait longtemps... :rolleyes:
lefutur
11 Aug 2008, 05:04 PM
Tiens, ça faisait longtemps... :rolleyes:
I know...so original. It must be a Texas thing.
LJSoccer
11 Aug 2008, 05:08 PM
Tiens, ça faisait longtemps... :rolleyes:
I know...so original. It must be a Texas thing.
I am just kidding around guys. No harm meant. Sorry for the cheap shot.
SportBoy333
11 Aug 2008, 07:13 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why everyone stopped wearing speedos. Those long shorts and body suits those guys wear now look rediculous. :) Cant imagine Mark Spitz in one of those.
Gotham PSG
12 Aug 2008, 11:12 AM
^^hehe
Personally I wonder why nobody is growing a mustache anymore :D
Their aerodynamics surely skimmed half a second from Spitz time, enabling him to beat record after record :D
but seriously, with all the bullshit from US media, nowhere did I read Bernard really say those words, and it makes me wonder how much of it is the usual francophobic US media creating a story out of a mistranslation?
BocaFan
12 Aug 2008, 11:30 AM
but seriously, with all the bullshit from US media, nowhere did I read Bernard really say those words, and it makes me wonder how much of it is the usual francophobic US media creating a story out of a mistranslation?
It's not just francophobic. It's rest-of-the-world phobic.
The sad US media need to invent things so that the Americans will watch sports they normally wouldn't be caught dead watching. So they create a "good guy versus bad guy" plot out of thin-air.
It's why I can't stomach watching the olympics on the main NBC network. The whole thing is basically a yankee-doodle circle jerk. :cool:
lefutur
12 Aug 2008, 11:49 AM
I personally want to know the real deal on this thing. Unfortunately the french media hasn't touched it.
NicolasN.
12 Aug 2008, 12:25 PM
I personally want to know the real deal on this thing. Unfortunately the french media hasn't touched it.
The US media made this up to increase the Americans' patriotic feeling in order to make the audience bigger since they paid big money to broadcast it at their local time.:cool:
Alain Bernard is like the male version of Manaudou in France without her scandalous aspect. I mean that he is popular so all of his talkings during the olympics are reported. He only complained some days ago about the doping tests since he was tested twice within 2 days and because it took 1h40...I saw the mens swim relay and their interview after the semi-final and the final. They haven't bad-mouthed the US swimmers at all...
thejuggernaut
12 Aug 2008, 12:53 PM
The US media made this up to increase the Americans' patriotic feeling in order to make the audience bigger since they paid big money to broadcast it at their local time.:cool:
Alain Bernard is like the male version of Manaudou in France without her scandalous aspect. I mean that he is popular so all of his talkings during the olympics are reported. He only complained some days ago about the doping tests since he was tested twice within 2 days and because it took 1h40...I saw the mens swim relay and their interview after the semi-final and the final. They haven't bad-mouthed the US swimmers at all...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/07/2328014.htm?site=olympics/2008
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Olympics/idUSSP28868620080807
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07082008/58/beijing-2008-bernard-promises-smash-americans.html
The UK Yahoo, Reuters, and NBC's rival ABC all joined a global conspiracy, prior to the 100 metres freestyle, to gas up ratings for this one specific event of the 2008 Olympic Games. I think it also has something to do with the chronic Francophobia running wild in all Media outlets around the world.
But honestly, Alain said it.... He should've shut the ******** up. ALLEZ ADU!!
Gotham PSG
12 Aug 2008, 03:09 PM
so if I read those articles correctly, Alain Bernard was only reprising a comment made by an American swimmer at the last olympics?
It's not just francophobic. It's rest-of-the-world phobic.
The sad US media need to invent things so that the Americans will watch sports they normally wouldn't be caught dead watching. So they create a "good guy versus bad guy" plot out of thin-air.
It's why I can't stomach watching the olympics on the main NBC network. The whole thing is basically a yankee-doodle circle jerk. :cool:
*yawn*
yep, that's nice.
NicolasN.
12 Aug 2008, 03:40 PM
so if I read those articles correctly, Alain Bernard was only reprising a comment made by an American swimmer at the last olympics?
Come on, all those articles have the same source.
Bernard never said : quoi, les Américains ? On va les écraser. I have never seen him talking like that. The guy is french, why no one reported it here, why he never said that in front of TV interviewers.
Thejuggernaut : repeating the media sayings doesn't make you honest. Plus, isn't it ambiguous that you blame supposed trash-talks, yet you tell that he should have shut the ******** up ? You blame disrespect, yet you are doing the same...
Anyway, this thread is a troll.
lefutur
12 Aug 2008, 06:07 PM
It certainly seems strange that the French media never latched onto that quote since they are partial to sensational quotes just as much as every other media. Unless it was said to a Reuters only audience, it seems like they would have caught wind of it, and as NicolasN. seems to imply, someone of his star status in France would surely have had someone covering his press conferences.
On the other hand, Reuters is reputable source although these days no media outlet seems to be above the occasional mistake.
Also NBC is trying to make a rivalry between China and the US and thats something that is even obvious to neutral observers.
NicolasN.
13 Aug 2008, 03:30 PM
It certainly seems strange that the French media never latched onto that quote since they are partial to sensational quotes just as much as every other media. Unless it was said to a Reuters only audience, it seems like they would have caught wind of it, and as NicolasN. seems to imply, someone of his star status in France would surely have had someone covering his press conferences.
On the other hand, Reuters is reputable source although these days no media outlet seems to be above the occasional mistake.
Also NBC is trying to make a rivalry between China and the US and thats something that is even obvious to neutral observers.
France Television play-by-play announcer Alexandre Boyon have heard about the rumor spread by the US media and he chose to comment it today. He was shocked by how the US media tried to destabilize Alain Bernard. He said he knows Alain Bernard and he'd have never said such a thing. He used the english word - trash talking - since that's the word used by the americans. Plus, he said that they questionned a NBC or ABC (I don't remember which one, sorry) journalist about the source and they answered that "someone told them" about it. (Do I need to go further ?:rolleyes: The someone told me source...)
He also added that they are short in memory because Gary Hall Jr said in 2000 that the US will smash the Aussies like guitars therefore they do not have the legitimity to give any lesson for supposed trash talks.
I'm sure, Alain Bernard himself doesn't even know that he said we'll smash the Americans. :rolleyes: It sounds so unfrench...and of course no one will be able to show us a video or a french article where he's saying "on va éclater les Américains" or "on va exploser les Américains" or "on va écraser les Américains"...
lefutur
14 Aug 2008, 07:44 PM
France Television play-by-play announcer Alexandre Boyon have heard about the rumor spread by the US media and he chose to comment it today. He was shocked by how the US media tried to destabilize Alain Bernard. He said he knows Alain Bernard and he'd have never said such a thing. He used the english word - trash talking - since that's the word used by the americans. Plus, he said that they questionned a NBC or ABC (I don't remember which one, sorry) journalist about the source and they answered that "someone told them" about it. (Do I need to go further ?:rolleyes: The someone told me source...)
He also added that they are short in memory because Gary Hall Jr said in 2000 that the US will smash the Aussies like guitars therefore they do not have the legitimity to give any lesson for supposed trash talks.
I'm sure, Alain Bernard himself doesn't even know that he said we'll smash the Americans. :rolleyes: It sounds so unfrench...and of course no one will be able to show us a video or a french article where he's saying "on va éclater les Américains" or "on va exploser les Américains" or "on va écraser les Américains"...
that pretty much settles it for me. wow.