Der Club! The FCN thread 09/10 [R]

[footyfan1]

Btw: I don't think that Mitreski is better than Abardonado.


I think he will be for FCN. Sorry, but I don't know what you saw in Abardonado. Every time I saw him, he was pure crap.

[footyfan1]

Someone should flush the toilet.

That disgusting turd floating in the water is FCN. :mad:

[Borussia]

Really sad for the fans what's going on in Nürnberg. But I don't feel sorry for Bader & Roth...

[footyfan1]

Really sad for the fans what's going on in Nürnberg. But I don't feel sorry for Bader & Roth...

I don't blame Bader. He's shown when he's not interfered with, he can do the job. I think Roth started interfering again and I think it started last season.

Dude, it was the same when Geenen was there. When Roth left FCN alone, Geenen steered the club well. But at the first sign of trouble, Roth stuck his nose in and everything went to shit.

Remember, TvH left because Roth refused to fund another defender to replace Wolf. I know you rated Abardonado, but his own coach didn't. I didn't either. Thought he was crap.

Bader wanted to do it. And looking at FCN's defense right now, I'd say Bader and TvH were right.

Yes, that also means that Bader's other signings were crap. But when you're trying to win promotion back to the 1. Liga, you don't just say, "Deal with it."

If you have the means to improve, you do so and you deal with the other shit later.

Honestly, I believe FCN was wrong to keep Oenning as coach. You don't get rid of a guy (TvH) and then make one of "his guys" the new coach. You may as well have kept the old guy.

You won't believe this Uwe, but I'll tell you who I think can help FCN right now.

THOMAS DOLL!

Not because he's any great coach, but the one thing he does know how to do is get a team to believe again.

He's no fantastic coach, but he can boost spirits. I think FCN should try to hire him at least to get through this season.

What I'm seeing from this FCN team is that they just don't believe in their leadership. It shows on the field.

The thing is, I don't think stingy Roth will pay for what this team actually needs.

Am experienced coach with a fresh vision.

[Borussia]

You won't believe this Uwe, but I'll tell you who I think can help FCN right now.

THOMAS DOLL!



He could surely help other clubs as well. We'll see what happens...

If Oenning has to go, Bader should follow him.

[footyfan1]

He could surely help other clubs as well. We'll see what happens...

If Oenning has to go, Bader should follow him.


Again, I don't agree. No manager will be successful under an interfering Roth.

[Borussia]

Well, Michaela can go as well. :-)

[footyfan1]

Well, Michaela can go as well. :-)

He should have been gone already.

Why you are blaming Bader for this, I don't know.

They still have talent on that roster, they just don't have the man to put it all together.

My suspicion is that you feel Bader was responsible for the firing of your hero Hans Meyer and you won't rest until Bader is gone.

From what I understood, that firing was pressed by Roth. I've spoken with others since our last debate/argument on the situation and they've convinced me that was Roth's decision that he imposed on the others.

From what I understood, Roth basically cut Bader's balls off when it came to Meyer.

But after seeing what has come out afterwards (Misimovic's comments for example), if you still can't understand why Meier was fired, there's just no talking to you.

Now. I am not saying Bader is without responsibility. He does have some. I hold him responsible for the central defender mess.

But guess what? Bader works within severe financial restraints too. Who sets those restraints?

ROTH!!

Maybe the press up there can't publicize it, but I can tell you that I know from good sources that FCN is not maximizing their assets in an attempt to make it back to the 1. Liga.

Roth is trying to do it as cheaply as possible and it isn't working.

FCN has the talent to win that league. Still. Even without Wolf in central defense.

However, they don't have the man on the coach's bench to put it all together.

They don't have the man to bring the team together.

This is why I suggested Doll. He can bring guys together. It is when he is needed to actually COACH is that he sucks.

However, FCN has enough talent that if these guys start to believe in themselves again, they can win the 2nd Bundesliga.

They just need the right coach. Oenning isn't it and Oenning wasn't Bader's choice, he was ROTH'S!!!

And what will probably eventually doom FCN is that ROTH won't get them the coach they need.

Go back to the 90s. Do you remember why Felix Magath quit??

Because Roth wouldn't spend the money to get him the players he needed to stay in the 1st Bundesliga.

FCN had the money for the players Magath wanted. Roth refused to spend it. He refused to listen to his football men.

And that's exactly what's going on now. You can blame Bader all you want, but I've seen this before.

This is all f#cking ROTH's doing!

I wouldn't be surprised if Roth's goal is to get Bader to quit so he can bring in someone to voluntarily do his bidding.

He got von Heesen to quit.........

Please FCN. Let Bader go. If that happens, I'm sure Bader will have another job before FCN ever sees the 1st Bundesliga again!

I even wish that job would be in Dortmund!

[Borussia]

Why you are blaming Bader for this, I don't know.


Because he was the one who contacted Von Heesen (behind Meyer's back) and also installed Oenning. Pure and simple...



Oenning wasn't Bader's choice, he was ROTH'S!!!


Any evidence?



Please FCN. Let Bader go. If that happens, I'm sure Bader will have another job before FCN ever sees the 1st Bundesliga again!


I wouldn't bet on this...

[footyfan1]

Because he was the one who contacted Von Heesen (behind Meyer's back) and also installed Oenning. Pure and simple...


Any evidence?


That's not the word I got and if I gave you my source, he'd never speak to me again and he'd probably lose his job.




I wouldn't bet on this...

Well, it's a good thing I'm not you, isn't it? ;)

[MetroChile]

Greetings!

I am trying to create Nurnberg for my PES game.
I was wondering if anyone had a link to the squad that FCN finished with this past season (in other words, the squad the team had for the 2nd half of the 07/08 season)?

Thanks in advance for any help!
Tschuss!

:)

[footyfan1]

Greetings!

I am trying to create Nurnberg for my PES game.
I was wondering if anyone had a link to the squad that FCN finished with this past season (in other words, the squad the team had for the 2nd half of the 07/08 season)?

Thanks in advance for any help!
Tschuss!

:)


Use this link (http://www.fussballdaten.de/vereine/1fcnuernberg/2008/kader/) and take off Pagenburg, Nikl and Kennedy.

[footyfan1]

I heard Bader and Oenning are supposed to go before the FCN board to explain the athletic situation today or tomorrow.

Bader could be fired after that.

Uwe, have you heard anything like that?


It seems Bader blames the team for lack of effort and Roth blames Bader for unsettling the team with his comments about their lack of effort.


I think Bader is right. The team is definitely talented enough, they just don't work hard enough.

But Bader's problem is that he, along with Thomas von Heesen, brought them all in.

Oenning is basically "innocent" here, but may suffer the consequences along with Bader.

I don't like Roth's meddling, but as with Meyer last season, something needs to be done to shake things up and if it is firing Bader and Oenning, or just Bader, so be it.

Here is my problem with the situation. Who do they get who is better?? Slam Bader all you like, but he's also the one who built that Cup winning side.

Bader was the man who brought Meyer to FCN. Like he did with Edgar Geenen, I think Roth is once again losing patience with his manager too soon.

But Roth doesn't want to stand behind Bader because it will cost more money to fix this situation and cheap ass Roth doesn't want to spend the money to do that.

So I believe FCN is up shit creek again because Roth wants a "cheap solution" where there isn't one.

Yes, Bader can be blamed for the situation, but no manager is perfect and not many have done a better job over the last three years than Martin Bader.

I know I'd take him in Dortmund over Michael Zorc in a f#cking heartbeat.

It will be interesting to see what comes out of Nürnberg after this weekend. Especially if they lose in Ingolstadt on Sunday.

[Borussia]

Uwe, have you heard anything like that?


I heard and read many things about that crazy "Teppichhändler" (just curious when he's going to threaten the players with his gun again:-) lately ... but I don't comment it, since I really don't care what happens with him and Bader! :cool:

[footyfan1]

I heard and read many things about that crazy "Teppichhändler" (just curious when he's going to threaten the players with his gun again:-) lately ... but I don't comment it, since I really don't care what happens with him and Bader! :cool:

Cool. Thanks for your comments.

[panicfc]

Hey rumors that Eintracht is checking out Yank Kenny Cooper.

Would be a good spot for him.

[MetroChile]

Hey rumors that Eintracht is checking out Yank Kenny Cooper.

Would be a good spot for him.

That's nice and all but this is the Nurnberg thread. :o:confused:

[panicfc]

Geez, how did I miss that one. ;)

[footyfan1]

And here I was thinking someone other than Uwe was interested in discussing FCN again. :(


;)

[panicfc]

I could discuss FCN. They went from Mr. Lady, to something that looks nearly as gay as a shirt sponsor.

I think they might make a run towards promotion now.