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footyfan1
28 Aug 2008, 06:26 AM
I remember a few very good performances from him (i.e. against Bayern, Frankfurt, Wolfsburg etc.). Didn't he even get the fans' darling?
Dude, it means he had a couple of good matches. That doesn't "prove" anything. Ibrahaim Tanko had more than three GREAT Bundesliga matches, but what happened to him??
The fans' darling? Oh please Uwe.
You can write that down and it wouldn't be worth anymore than it would be if you wiped your ass with it.
I remember when the FCN fans used to sing, "Auge, Auge, du bist der beste mann", as Augenthaler was f#cking destroying one of the most talented FCN teams in 20 years.
Like I said, being a "fan darling" is worth about as much as shit-stained paper.
Vfbstuttgartfan
28 Aug 2008, 01:03 PM
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/2bundesliga/startseite/artikel/382363/
Von Heesen resigns.
Big shock, didn't expect this to happen so early in the season. :eek: :confused:
EDIT: People still claiming it was the right thing to do to fire Meyer half a year ago should probably now, if they hadn't already, really start to reconsider what the affects of his departure were, what got better (nothing), what got worse (a whole list of things), and what this has meant for FCN in recent months...
footyfan1
28 Aug 2008, 01:07 PM
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/2bundesliga/startseite/artikel/382363/
Von Heesen resigns.
Big shock, didn't expect this to happen so early in the season. :eek: :confused:
It was no big shock once Roth started to interfere. Read the previous messages. I was already saying Roth was setting TvH up for failure.
Borussia
28 Aug 2008, 01:30 PM
It was no big shock once Roth started to interfere.
;)
Did TvH resign or did he get fired? You know, it's all about money...
Btw: Robert Vittek is gone, too (Lille). Abardonado & Charisteas to follow...
Vfbstuttgartfan
28 Aug 2008, 01:37 PM
From Kicker report, and as I wrote, he resigned.
footyfan1
28 Aug 2008, 03:44 PM
;)
Did TvH resign or did he get fired? You know, it's all about money...
Like VfBStuttgartfan said, he resigned. Just what Roth wanted.
Btw: Robert Vittek is gone, too (Lille).
Had not heard that one. Cheers!
Abardonado & Charisteas to follow...
As far as I'm concerned, they both suck and they can go.
Any word on who the new coach will be??
Vfbstuttgartfan
28 Aug 2008, 04:47 PM
It seems that Wolfgang Wolf is currently the favourite.
footyfan1
28 Aug 2008, 05:11 PM
It seems that Wolfgang Wolf is currently the favourite.
Are you just going from what Kicker says or do you have another source??
Vfbstuttgartfan
28 Aug 2008, 07:28 PM
Just kicker.
Borussia
28 Aug 2008, 07:48 PM
Like VfBStuttgartfan said, he resigned. Just what Roth wanted.
So TvH is really such a gentleman to turn down a pay-off? Hard to believe that...
Btw: What about Bader? Doesn't he have to fear any consequences?
footyfan1
29 Aug 2008, 04:38 AM
So TvH is really such a gentleman to turn down a pay-off? Hard to believe that...
No, but he's enough of a prideful idiot to not take the money just for the satisfaction of telling Roth to "F#ck Off......"
Btw: What about Bader? Doesn't he have to fear any consequences?
I don't think so. Bader was there before TvH. Bader was the guy who got them Hans Meyer and built the team that won the DFB Pokal. Bader has credit with Roth.
But, I think Bader might quit if he doesn't want to do things Roth's way. FCN has lost so many good managers and coaches in the past for that very reason.
I'm not afraid to say I was wrong on TvH. Again, I'm saying I was wrong about him being the right man for FCN. I'm not saying I was wrong about FCN needing a coaching change last season. But I go back to what I said before. After reading Misimovic's comments after the season, I doubt any coach could have saved FCN last season and it looks like that just carried over into this season so far.
Back to TvH. I thought he'd come in and work with what he had, which is what he did last season. However, this season, he was clearly favoring his former Bielefeld players to the point that he was making stupid lineups such as the one he did in Kaiserslautern.
As soon as I heard Roth rejected both TvH's and Bader's call for a new defender to replace Andy Wolf, I knew there would be trouble.
I'm really surprised that Bader didn't quit along with TvH, but I'm thinking maybe Bader believes he can fix the situation with the right coach.
And with Vittek having been sold and Abdonardo having been basically "sacked", I don't see how Roth can't allow Bader to go out and buy another central defender for FCN. Someone who can not only fill-in for Wolf, but who is good enough to play alongside Wolf upon Wolf's return.
But any time Roth gets involved, there is trouble. And things always turn out badly for FCN......
Borussia
29 Aug 2008, 06:29 PM
But any time Roth gets involved, there is trouble.
I'm happy that at least our boss Rolf Königs doesn't get involved that much lately ... so he hopefully learned his lesson in contrast to Mr. Roth.
Pichi
30 Aug 2008, 07:31 PM
Just kicker.
The Nurnberger Zeitung also mentions Wolf as the likely replacement. Also Vittek was sold to Lille for 3.5M Euros.
Er Pichi
Pichi
31 Aug 2008, 02:18 PM
The big surprise today was that 1FCN was able to come back after going down 02 to snatch a point against Alemania Aachen.
Nurnberg 2 - 2 Alemania Aachen
0 - 1 Seyi Olajengbesi 17'
0 - 2 Benjamin Auer 29'
1 - 2 Christian Eigler 49'
2 - 2 Daniel Gygax 68'
BTW-Vittek played 71 minutes with Lille and they beat Bordeaux for their first win of the season 2-1.
Er Pichi
footyfan1
01 Sep 2008, 10:55 AM
Hey Uwe, can you find out if the rest of the FCN fans from the old thread signed up for this one??
Borussia
01 Sep 2008, 11:18 AM
How shall I find that out?
Well, they aren't blind ... are they? :-)
It's a pity that Annje isn't here anymore. :( I hope that nothing bad happened to her.
footyfan1
01 Sep 2008, 12:22 PM
How shall I find that out?
Well, they aren't blind ... are they? :-)
It's a pity that Annje isn't here anymore. :( I hope that nothing bad happened to her.
I thought you might be in contact with some of them off-line. You always seemed to be so personal to them before.
footyfan1
01 Sep 2008, 12:24 PM
Defender Mitreski moves from Koln to FCN (http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/news/23225/01092008_13_41/news/anzeigen.html)
This shows me Roth just wanted to get rid of TvH. They tell TvH he can't have a new defender, but right after TvH quits, they sell two players and buy Mitreski from Koln.
Crazy. They could have simply done the deals and kept TvH.
My guess is that after the fact, Bader made Roth see that his stance was stupid and bound to doom the club.
I hate that f#ckin' Roth! :mad:
Borussia
01 Sep 2008, 01:55 PM
I thought you might be in contact with some of them off-line. You always seemed to be so personal to them before.
LOOOL! ;)
I've only had contact with Annje via PM.
Borussia
01 Sep 2008, 01:57 PM
I hate that f#ckin' Roth! :mad:
You can be sure that I'll never "love" him either...;)
Btw: I don't think that Mitreski is better than Abardonado.