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Catfish
16 Sep 2003, 05:07 PM
Just saw the replay on FSW and their serious thrashing that they gave to the Villains proves once again that they belong in the top flight.

Plus, City of Manchester Stadium is magnificant.

soccerchick584
16 Sep 2003, 08:04 PM
Yeah it was pretty impressive. They gave Villa an absolute spanking. And it was nice to watch. I've never been a big City fan, but it was impressive. Anelka is absolutely fantastic striker. He can put the ball in the back of the net. I wish we could've seen more of what he can do, not being on the spot. Was it two PKs he scored on? Great treble, great comeback for City. Fantastic 2nd half. Great football.

RobB
16 Sep 2003, 09:09 PM
Both our centre-halfs came off with injuries in that game! We played the last 30 minutes with our RB at CB, our LB at RB and our LM at LB. We also gave away two PK`s and a free kick right on the edge of the box which Man. City scored from. Last seasons player of the year (G. Barry) was suspended last seasons leading scorer(Vassell)injured, and our leading scorer this season Angel had to come off as well. We also fluffed three one on ones with the City keeper.
When we had a team first half, Man. City were restricted to a couple of shots from distance and we lead them 1-0. The final score shows they can rout a team decimated by injuries and suspensions.

michaec
17 Sep 2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by soccerchick584
Anelka is absolutely fantastic striker. He can put the ball in the back of the net. I wish we could've seen more of what he can do... OK, I have to ask, as you have Arsenal and Real Madrid listed as teams you support, who is this "we" you speak of. Just for clarity you understand.

Originally posted by RobB
Both our centre-halfs came off with injuries in that game! We played the last 30 minutes with our RB at CB, our LB at RB and our LM at LB. We also gave away two PK`s and a free kick right on the edge of the box which Man. City scored from. Last seasons player of the year (G. Barry) was suspended last seasons leading scorer(Vassell)injured, and our leading scorer this season Angel had to come off as well. We also fluffed three one on ones with the City keeper.
When we had a team first half, Man. City were restricted to a couple of shots from distance and we lead them 1-0. The final score shows they can rout a team decimated by injuries and suspensions. That's quite a list of excuses there fella.

Catfish
17 Sep 2003, 09:53 AM
OK, I have to ask, as you have Arsenal and Real Madrid listed as teams you support, who is this "we" you speak of. Just for clarity you understand. (Michaec)


Go easy, soccerchick is cool. She is from TN, a very beautiful state.

I know Real Madrid is equal to Manure, definately of the Spanish League. FC Barcelona would be our equal, I guess. But Real Madrid played some beautiful football yesterday vs. Marsille, whether you like them or not.

Zidane is AWESOME!

michaec
17 Sep 2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Catfish
OK, I have to ask, as you have Arsenal and Real Madrid listed as teams you support, who is this "we" you speak of. Just for clarity you understand. (Michaec)


Go easy, soccerchick is cool. She is from TN, a very beautiful state.

I know Real Madrid is equal to Manure, definately of the Spanish League. FC Barcelona would be our equal, I guess. But Real Madrid played some beautiful football yesterday vs. Marsille, whether you like them or not.

Zidane is AWESOME! I was only asking. I'm sure soccerchick is cool, but you can see why I was confused.

soccerchick584
17 Sep 2003, 06:56 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by michaec
[B]OK, I have to ask, as you have Arsenal and Real Madrid listed as teams you support, who is this "we" you speak of. Just for clarity you understand.
Speaking of the people at my house watching the game with me. Sorry I didn't put that in there for ya. I don't support Man. City, but I watch all EPL games that I can.

nicephoras
18 Sep 2003, 09:01 AM
WHO was watching doesn't really answer the question.........Anelka has played for both Real and Arsenal, so shouldn't you have seen him play before? Quite a bit? Especially since you watch EPL? I think that was Michaec's question. It certainly was mine.

Originally posted by soccerchick584
[QUOTE]Originally posted by michaec
[B]OK, I have to ask, as you have Arsenal and Real Madrid listed as teams you support, who is this "we" you speak of. Just for clarity you understand.
Speaking of the people at my house watching the game with me. Sorry I didn't put that in there for ya. I don't support Man. City, but I watch all EPL games that I can.

Kevin in Louisiana
18 Sep 2003, 11:28 AM
Couldn't she have just been referring to Anelka's performance in the game in question? That's how I read it.

nicephoras
19 Sep 2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Kevin in Louisiana
Couldn't she have just been referring to Anelka's performance in the game in question? That's how I read it.

she said she "wished she could see more of what he can do"
my question is - hasn't she seen plenty when he played for her 2 favorite teams? He hasn't exactly just burst onto the scene.

Machetazo
19 Sep 2003, 01:21 AM
From what i've seen of Anelka, he is a little hog. When he had the ball close to Villa's goal, he did not pass the ball once. Even when he did not have a clear shot. I only have FSWE so i dont get to watch as many EPL matches as FSW viewers get. Can any of you change my view of what i think of him in the few times that i've seen him?

onefineesq
19 Sep 2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Machetazo
From what i've seen of Anelka, he is a little hog. When he had the ball close to Villa's goal, he did not pass the ball once. Even when he did not have a clear shot. I only have FSWE so i dont get to watch as many EPL matches as FSW viewers get. Can any of you change my view of what i think of him in the few times that i've seen him?

Actually, i'm with you on this one. I don't see why everyone went so gaga about him in this game. There were several good scoring opportunities that City had which were squandered because Anelka decided instead to blast away from 30 yards with a man right in his face. the first 2 goals he had were on pk's which he did not create. basically, it comes down to him getting one garbage time goal when Villa was pressing all their men forward to try and cut into a late 3-1 deficit. I think the praise for Anelka should be tempered with MUCH criticism.

nicephoras
20 Sep 2003, 12:35 AM
Anelka is a hog, yes. But the problem is, he has no faith in the strikers on his team. Nor should he - they've been pretty bad. I've watched 3 Man City games this year (that's what they happened to be playing in the pub that day, I guess) and in all of them if Anelka wasn't doing it, no one was. He can be greedy, but with the quality around him I'm not sure he should be blamed THAT much.

JJ Mindset
21 Sep 2003, 03:57 AM
Understandable when they've struggled to get back to the top division. Since they had to struggle while waiting for COMS to open, they had to make due with the players they had. A couple of players did played well for them, especially Shaun Goater. However, the Goat is no longer with them because of some SNAFU's with the front office which I won't go into. Anelka was had basically at a "cut price", since the "bigger" clubs couldn't deal with him.

However, you all seem to underestimate their determination to perservere in the toughest of situations. How else would they have fought back from the lower divisions?

Ludahai
21 Sep 2003, 07:09 AM
I have to say that Man City is far more impressive at the beginning of the season than they were last year.

They seemed to have gelled quite well together up and down the field.

I am still a little skeptical that they can challenge for a champions league spot for next year though. I am not entirely convinced that they can stay consistant all season, which is needed in the top leagues.

Assuming that Arsenal, Man United and Chelsea will get the first three spots, does anyone thing Man City can get the fourth spot? If the play like this all season, I think they will give it a run.

It will also be interesting to see how far they get in the UEFA Cup. If they can keep this team together, give them a couple of years. They are good!

nurspec
26 Sep 2003, 09:52 AM
I'll tell you this for one thing,SUN is the most underrated player in the EPL,the fact that he is of Oriental background
has hampered the recognition he deserves and it say's a lot about the British culture.He without question the most important player on the team and should recognised as so
by all.His overall game is impeccable.i will go as far as to say he is one of the most intelligent players in the game.

Mobile
27 Sep 2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by nurspec
the fact that he is of Oriental background
has hampered the recognition he deserves and it say's a lot about the British culture.

Eh? What are you on about? The only thing that's 'hampered' the recognition he gets is the fact that he's not an exceptionally good player.

Or are you suggesting there are some more sinister issues involved? That, despite the multicultural nature of the Premiership (and England in general), we harbour a secret hatred for all things Oriental, and so are determined not to afford Sun Jihai the accolades he undoubtedly deserves?

He without question the most important player on the team and should recognised as so
by all.

Erm....ok.

His overall game is impeccable.i will go as far as to say he is one of the most intelligent players in the game.

And I will go so far as to say that you're a bell-end.

nurspec
28 Sep 2003, 09:17 AM
Mobile.
I was watching an everton game last year when the announcer,one of the top ones made the comment "little chinaman" reffering to Le Tie(sp).The thing is Tie was the biggest player pn the field at the time.That tells me that even at the highest level of sport there is stigma attached to oriental players by ALL other races,not just white.So don't give me that garbage about multi culturalism and we love everyone inuendo's.You can name any team in the premiership or any other league and take out the black players in that team,and see what comments are made on the terraces after that transition.That's just the society we live in,but let's not pretend it doesn't exist,that's just retarded.

I think my whole post reffers to people like yourself,because if you watch a Man City game when Sun is playing then you will understand his importance.He got man City two penalties in the last two games,and made the crosses that scored most of the others.those are the facts.I'm not saying he's the best ever just that he is way underrated.

Mobile
28 Sep 2003, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by nurspec
Mobile.
I was watching an everton game last year when the announcer,one of the top ones made the comment "little chinaman" reffering to Le Tie(sp).The thing is Tie was the biggest player pn the field at the time.That tells me that even at the highest level of sport there is stigma attached to oriental players by ALL other races,not just white.So don't give me that garbage about multi culturalism and we love everyone inuendo's.

I think you'll find most commentators in England are hyper-sensitive about what they can or cannot say, particularly in regards to race (John Motson took a hammering a few years ago when he admitted he sometimes has problems telling black players apart). So the fact that you heard such a comment surprises me. But even if that comment was made, how on earth do you make the connection that all orientals in England are somehow relentlessly persecuted as a consequence of their race? Absolute claptrap.


You can name any team in the premiership or any other league and take out the black players in that team,and see what comments are made on the terraces after that transition.That's just the society we live in,but let's not pretend it doesn't exist,that's just retarded.

Someone is retarded alright. What on earth is that drivel supposed to mean? That if there were no black players in the Premiership, you would hear more racist comments? What would be prompting this imaginary abuse if there were no black players to be targeted? Bollocks.

I think my whole post reffers to people like yourself,because if you watch a Man City game when Sun is playing then you will understand his importance.He got man City two penalties in the last two games,and made the crosses that scored most of the others.those are the facts.

He's an average player in my opinion. Or are you trying to suggest that I am steadfastly refusing to acknowledge his greatness simply on account of his racial origin? If so, may I suggest that you go ******** yourself?

I'm not saying he's the best ever just that he is way underrated.

Well, you did say:

He without question the most important player on the team and should recognised as so
by all.

Which is quite clearly rubbish.

nurspec
29 Sep 2003, 09:14 AM
If that's the case about commentators ,how do you explain the comments made about the Everton Player?

If your going to quote me then quote me correct.I said take the black players out of any TEAM in the epl....
And i stand by that comment.But that's just oppinion.

In answer to your 3rd paragraph.Probably.

in answer to 4 and 5.
if he's not then who?.No one works harder has more impact on a game than him.He's made some mistakes last year but was still the most intelligent player on the field.
He is as good as most in the role he plays.His defensive work is 8,his passing 10,his effectivness as an attacker is 8 and his intelligence is 10. The man is just really good and due to his race it's not recognised,he is the key to Man city's success in the future.