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gento
16 Sep 2003, 04:39 PM
Zinedine Zidane.
Zizou belongs to that group.
Luther_Gabriel
16 Sep 2003, 04:49 PM
That is for sure.
MIGkiller
16 Sep 2003, 04:51 PM
Shouldn't it be Platini?
Mario
16 Sep 2003, 05:01 PM
agreed about Platini
MIGkiller
16 Sep 2003, 05:05 PM
And there were many others who were better than Zidane, like Zico, Garrincha, Puskas, etc.
gento
16 Sep 2003, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by MIGkiller
And there were many others who were better than Zidane, like Zico, Garrincha, Puskas, etc.
Zico?
What has Zico won?
Zizou has the game and the trophies:World Cup,Eurocup,Champions League,Italian League,Spanish League.
He has a better career than Zico.
NEKSoccer
16 Sep 2003, 05:10 PM
How about Eusebio? He was a big rival to Pele.
gento
16 Sep 2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by NEKSoccer
How about Eusebio? He was a big rival to Pele.
IMO,Eusebio is one step below of the greatest ones;he is with the likes of Puskas,Platini,Beckencabuer,Garrincha,etc.
Frank Cunha
16 Sep 2003, 05:13 PM
you beat me to it, Eusebio was by far the second behind Pele
Frank Cunha
16 Sep 2003, 05:15 PM
if you don't mention Eusebio, you never had the opportunity to see him play
Mario
16 Sep 2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by gento
Zico?
What has Zico won?
Zizou has the game and the trophies:World Cup,Eurocup,Champions League,Italian League,Spanish League.
He has a better career than Zico.
he does have a point
gento
16 Sep 2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Frank Cunha
if you don't mention Eusebio, you never had the opportunity to see him play
If you think Eusebio was better than Maradona or Di Stefano it is because you are heavily biased.
Frank Cunha
16 Sep 2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Mario
he does have a point
when did Zico won a World Cup?
Frank Cunha
16 Sep 2003, 05:19 PM
sorry you mean Zidane
MIGkiller
16 Sep 2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Frank Cunha
when did Zico won a World Cup?
And when did Eusébio?
Frank Cunha
16 Sep 2003, 05:23 PM
Eusebio got rob in 1966, but so did Germany
comme
16 Sep 2003, 05:33 PM
A lack of trophies doesn't make Zico a worse player than Zidane. Arnold Muhren won every club trophy, doesn't mean he is better than Zico.
Zico and Zidane are both in the upper echelons of the history of the game, although whether they are on a par with Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano, Puskas, Cruyff etc is debatable.
gento
16 Sep 2003, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by comme
A lack of trophies doesn't make Zico a worse player than Zidane. Arnold Muhren won every club trophy, doesn't mean he is better than Zico.
Zico and Zidane are both in the upper echelons of the history of the game, although whether they are on a par with Pele, Maradona, Di Stefano, Puskas, Cruyff etc is debatable.
Of course,it is debatable.
For me,for being considered among the best of the best(4 o 5 best players in the history) you should have tha game and the trophies.
Zidane has both things,Zico lacks the trophies.
comme
16 Sep 2003, 05:47 PM
If you look at Zico's career though he played for Flamengo where he won 3 titles and a Copa Libertadores, then Udinese who had no hope of the league, went back to Flamengo and then finished in Japan. In international terms he should have won the WC in 82 and probably 86. How Brazil lost to Italy will be debated to this day, and in 86 Zico was not fully fit.
Zidane on the other hand has had the luxury of playing for Juve and Real, joining both when they were the best team in the world. he also won his WC on home turf. All that counts against him.
Luis Enrique Muereté
16 Sep 2003, 06:55 PM
What about Van Basten?