Keira Knightley is Available, How About we sign her too? Chelsea Transfer Thread.

[Dear_Claudio]

Without goal.com, there could never be: The Chelsea Transfer Thread


Winner.

[Cris 09]

Kerry Dixon's Boots favorite topic: The Chelsea Transfer Thread

[BridgeMonkee]

For the record, I am not like the journalists that spout this crap.

*Shuffles away embarrassingly*

True. They earn money . . .and you're an unpaid student right? :p

[YOUNGSTARS87]

Robinho rumors are looking glum. Real turned down a decent offer for a player looking to show his back.

Considering we paid about 24 Million Euros for him, raw from Brazil. The reported 25 Million offered was an insult.

I'd say if Madrid turns down our a £25-30m bid for Robinho, its time to call it quits on this lad. No sub is worth that much money.

Sub?

I've read this repetitively in this thread and all it speaks to me or any other Madrid fan is:

A). You didn't watch a Madrid game last year.

B). You have no clue of what you're talking about.

Robinho was a starter all year until he got that injury where he was out for months and took a long time to recover fitness. In fact at one point in the year (from late September to when he got injured in February) he was being heralded as a WPOTY contestant.

He was the crack of Madrid last season and in fact the crack of La Liga. Where you get he was a sub from, only God knows. Especially considering although he missed games at the end of the season he still scored 15 goals and had 12 assists.

Arguably our best player besides Casillas.

If he's unhappy at Madrid, they'd be stupid to make him stay there, but hey, that's their problem.

Who said he's unhappy with the squad? He isn't. He loves Schuster (Schuster was the one who gave him the supporter which helped him "crack" last season) and he gets along well with Guti, Raul and the rest of the squad.

His problems is with Calderon and Pedja, and how he felt devalued (by how we were going after C.R. at all cost but didn't care to sell him) when he was playing at a high level like Cristiano last year.

Also most of those stories about his supposed anger against the club are inventions from his agent who has ulterior motives trying to get money out of the club from negotiating a deal. His agent, Wagner Ribiero is the lowest of lows and I think even Scolari has spoken against him before.

Anyways, every time Robinho has spoken to the media (When his plane first landed and AS interviewed him, when he spoke two/three weeks after) he's said the same thing. He never thought of leaving and didn't want to leave.

It was Calderon and Pedja who had the thoughts of selling him (make room for Cristiano), not Robinho having the thoughts of leaving. His agent? Just a sleaze bag trying to rattle the cage for more and more money.


I come in peace, just wanted to explain some misinformed things I've read here.

[OneHolding]

I come in peace, just wanted to explain some misinformed things I've read here.

Just while you're talking about misinformation the amount we bid was never confirmed.

[YOUNGSTARS87]

Just while you're talking about misinformation the amount we bid was never confirmed.

Really? Why didn't you cry foul after seeing this post then?

we officially bid 19.7 for him.

[OneHolding]

Really?

Really.

Can't say I read every post, hardly changes the original point anyway.

[Kerry Dixon's Boots]

Robinho has an agent.

Agents make more coin when their players move clubs.

Players who are 'unsettled' are more likely to move clubs.

Ergo, an agent has a lot to gain from 'unsettling' his client.

Robinho is not a sub for Madrid. He had injury issues (which gave some posters cause to suggest he was fragile but any player can pick up a nasty knock) which limited his appearances. To say he's a sub is akin to saying Ballack was a sub last year for us. He wasn't. When healthy Robinho and Ballack were starting more often than not.

Also, Chelsea announced on their website that they made a bid so I think it's fair to say it is factual.

Now having played devil's advocate for long enough I am actually wondering what Madrid fans feel about this happening to one of their players as it is more often the case that they have caused the same feeling at other clubs. I'm pretty sure they like it as little as Utd fans liked seeing Ronaldo unsettled or as little as the Inter/Lampard rumours we've been seeing all summer.

In conclusion. I hate this thread. I hate the animosity and recriminations it creates. I LOVE the fact we'll finally get to see a ball kicked and that the window will soon be closed.

[Kazuma]

edit: i have also heard a lot of rumblings about ivanovich coming to milan. it seems not too many people on this board(from what i have read) believe that is going to happen either... any particular reason why?

For one, it's only being reported in the Italian press (I'll get to that in a sec) and given that Ancelotti has denied it I'm more likely to believe him than whatever the press is saying. As for why I stated it's only being reported by the Italian press, given the club Ivanovic plays for, it would be somewhat reported in the English media. (See Lampard and that whole Inter fiasco) I've checked the BBC among other sites and nothing, not even anything in their gossip section as of this moment. I just regard it as Goal bollocks anyway.

[YOUNGSTARS87]

Really.

Can't say I read every post, hardly changes the original point anyway.

Well, I'm honored you took the time to read my post and ignore you fellow forum member. :D

Now having played devil's advocate for long enough I am actually wondering what Madrid fans feel about this happening to one of their players as it is more often the case that they have caused the same feeling at other clubs.

To us it has nothing to do with him not wanting to play for Madrid. He's said many times (not just recently) but in the past that he wanted to even retire here. Cristiano situation is clear. He wants to be a Madrid player (since childhood), said so many times, he just doesn't want to shit on Manchester and feels he owes SAF.

It's more of the fact that Calderon gambled, and we treated him secondary. We didn't come out to defend the Robinho to team A, B and C rumors which were spouting off earlier this summer because we were more focused on securing Cristiano.

With that said, Robinho's agent is a slime ball of mass proportions which he's known well for being just that.

We'd probably have a different outlook if Robinho had been dodgy in the press, then stated since he was a kid he dream of wearing blue.


In conclusion. I hate this thread. I hate the animosity and recriminations it creates. I LOVE the fact we'll finally get to see a ball kicked and that the window will soon be closed.

This has been one weird summer to say the least.

Oh, and I know you guys have a lot of CM's, but what's with the Deco hate? On his day (which is literally whenever he wants to play, which should be good for you because he wants to prove himself) he is one of the best. This coming from a Madrid fan as well.

I just feel some of you don't watch La Liga, so you don't know of his quality. Anyways, regardless of if Abramovich makes a stunning bid (which is what it'll take because money talks) or Calderon refuses you guys have a hell of a team in my opinion.

[Bruckner283]

Oh, and I know you guys have a lot of CM's, but what's with the Deco hate? On his day (which is literally whenever he wants to play, which should be good for you because he wants to prove himself) he is one of the best. This coming from a Madrid fan as well.

The Reason:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2dtouns.gif

[YOUNGSTARS87]

You're too harsh, lol.

Ballack was doing a number of those during the Euros as well. ;)

[Kazuma]

The Deco hate? Well, we played Barca in the CL quite a bit and there's always been some arrogant stuff said by them in the days leading up to those matches. (Samuel Eto'o, Ronaldinho, and Valdes not keeping their mouths shut for example, or Marquez going down on a challenge from freaking Arjen Robben for instance.) IMO, Barca sort of became a Europe rival to us, mainly because of the arrogance of some of their players (Eto'o I'm looking at you) and their antics to try and beat us.

Don't get us wrong, we know Deco's quality it's just we're annoyed (And we're just as annoyed by Drogba when he does it too) by some of the dramatics he resorted to whenever we played Barca in the CL. One notable instance that had just about every Chelsea fan laughing involved Deco and John Terry which can best explain our dislike for him.

What happened was, Deco got a relatively soft challenge from Michael Ballack, nothing hard just Ballack trying to get the ball. Deco went down rather easily and did the whole rolling around bit, only for Terry to kick the ball right at Deco. As soon as that happened, Deco got right back up and went to complain, exposing him for his dramatics. It was quite funny. Hell even Ballack was laughing when that happened.

My point is that we still remember the Deco from Barca and the whole conflict we had.

As for me and some other people, he's on a clean slate till he acts like he did at Barca against us. For some of the older fans, Deco could make a hard challenge on C. Ronaldo and they'd still hate him. But c'est las vie.

[Kazuma]

You're too harsh, lol.

Ballack was doing a number of those during the Euros as well. ;)

Yeah, we were a victim of that when he was at Bayern.

EDIT: As always, Bruckner does it in hilarious fashion.

[BridgeMonkee]

One notable instance that had just about every Chelsea fan laughing involved Deco and John Terry which can best explain our dislike for him.

What happened was, Deco got a relatively soft challenge from Michael Ballack, nothing hard just Ballack trying to get the ball. Deco went down rather easily and did the whole rolling around bit, only for Terry to kick the ball right at Deco. As soon as that happened, Deco got right back up and went to complain, exposing him for his dramatics. It was quite funny. Hell even Ballack was laughing when that happened.



Anyone have the link to that? Always worth a watch :D

As far as Deco being this great player we shall wait and see.

[blackjack]

John Terry's healing powers are renowned in Barcelona. Without JT's intervention Deco would surely have missed months after that tackle based on the way he was rolling around.

[Kazuma]

New thread below, over the limit a tad anyway. :)

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15405894

[Macksam]

But those positions are entirely wrong for the respective players.
Absolutely not. It's a little bit off but it is no where near entirely wrong. Essien is a hard tackler like Ambrosini. Ballack during his early Bayern days played the Central midfielder role alot where he would distribute the ball like Pirlo does. Seedorf is an offensive mid fielder like Deco or Lampard. In all honesty, the Gattuso one is the only position that is off. This might be a little better than the last one:

-------------------------Kaka-------------------------
Deco(Seedorf)------------------------Lampard(Gattuso)
------------------Ballack(Pirlo)-----------------------
---------------------------Essien(Ambrosini)----------------

We would overwhelm United badly in the mid field like AC Milan did two seasons ago.
The Deco hate? Well, we played Barca in the CL quite a bit and there's always been some arrogant stuff said by them in the days leading up to those matches. (Samuel Eto'o, Ronaldinho, and Valdes not keeping their mouths shut for example, or Marquez going down on a challenge from freaking Arjen Robben for instance.) IMO, Barca sort of became a Europe rival to us, mainly because of the arrogance of some of their players (Eto'o I'm looking at you) and their antics to try and beat us.

If I can add to that, the hatred runs even deeper with me personally because of the 05-06 season, first leg round of 16 match between us and them. We were down a man by the beginning of second half, we were in trouble but Arjen Robben stepped up and took that game over. He was on his game which made him virtually unstoppable against Barca. They were putting four guys on him, but they still couldn't muscle him off the ball. So what did they do? They injured him to get him off the field. After that, Barca scored two, we lost. That game showed me how he was one of the best players in the world. Even C. Ronaldo can't put in a performance like he did that game. Never in his entire career could he do that. C. Ronaldo can't put in a decent performance against any good team really.