Top 10 UEFA Leagues in average revenue per club

[pc4th]

http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/press_release/0,1014,sid%253D2834%2526cid%253D207984,00.html

Premier League clubs generated the highest revenue (£1.5 billion) of any league in Europe in 2006/07, followed by Germany (£0.9 billion), Spain (£0.9 billion), Italy (£0.8 billion) and France (£0.7 billion).

The aggregate operating profits of German Bundesliga clubs in 2006/07 of £168m exceeded those for the Premier League (£95m) for the first time, albeit the position may have altered for 2007/08.

Championship clubs’ revenues grew by 3% to £329m in 2006/07. Championship clubs’ aggregate operating losses worsened as wage increases (14%) outstripped revenue growth (3%).


1. Premiership (average $150 mil per team) 06/07
2. Bundesliga (average $100 mil per team) 06/07
3. La Liga (average $90 mil per team) 06/07
4. Serie A (average $80 mil per team) 06/07
5. Ligue 1 (average $70 mil per team) 06/07
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Known variables:

Scottish Premier League: Celtic ($140 mil) Rangers ($120 mil) per Deloitte, the other 10 clubs?????
Championship (average $27.4 mil per team) 06/07
Serie B: ($15.6 mil in 04/05 per Deloitte)
Bundesliga 2: lower than Serie B in 04/05 per Deloitte

Dutch League: ?
Portugese First Division ?
Russian Premier League ?
Turkish Premier League ?

So how would you fill in the blank for 6-10? (give it your best educated guess)

[pc4th]

1. Premiership (average $150 mil per team) 06/07
2. Bundesliga (average $100 mil per team) 06/07
3. La Liga (average $90 mil per team) 06/07
4. Serie A (average $80 mil per team) 06/07
5. Ligue 1 (average $70 mil per team) 06/07

My educated guess for 6-10 positions:

6. Scottish Premier League ~$35-40 mil
7. Dutch League ~$30-35 mil
8. Portugese First Division ~$27-32 mil
9. English Championship (average $27.4 mil per team) 06/07 per Deloitte
10. Serie B with around $17-22 mil

[96Squig]

I'd expect the 2nd Bundesliga to be before Seria B...

[zippy85]

The next figures will include the new t.v deal which started this year, i remember watching the deloitte guy on skysportsnews, i think it jumps to 2.1

German clubs should really be doing better in Europe with that revenue.

Spain is suprisingly low, although i've known for a while.

[Lusankya]

More revenue doesn't mean, that german clubs have more money than english, italian or spanish clubs. Chelsea, Manchester, Milan or Real don't give a shit about their revenues, they can spend as much money as they want.

[zippy85]

More revenue doesn't mean, that german clubs have more money than english, italian or spanish clubs. Chelsea, Manchester, Milan or Real don't give a shit about their revenues, they can spend as much money as they want.

True

Money doesn't mean success for English clubs either because the owners of the larger pl clubs take money out(bar Abraomovich).
It does force those clubs to really focus on growing their revenue streams though.

[pc4th]

More revenue doesn't mean, that german clubs have more money than english, italian or spanish clubs. Chelsea, Manchester, Milan or Real don't give a shit about their revenues, they can spend as much money as they want.


Top 4 EPL vs Top 4 Bundesliga (in pounds)

Manchester Utd 212.1 -----Bayern Munich 150.3
Chelsea 190.5 -------------Hamburg SV 81.0
Arsenal 177.6--------------Schalke 04 76.9
Liverpool 133.9-------------Werder Bremen 65.5

The above is the reason why Bundesliga top earners don't do well in the Champions League. However, Bundesliga is the most profitable league because they spend less relative to other leagues on wages. (i.e. 55% of revenue whereas other leagues spend 60-65% of revenue). There is a cap on spending in Bundesliga as a percentage of revenue.

Deloitte Top 20 Clubs in Revenue (in pounds)

1 (1) Real Madrid 236.2
2 (4) Manchester Utd 212.1
3 (2) FC Barcelona 195.3
4 (6) Chelsea 190.5
5 (9) Arsenal 177.6
6 (5) AC Milan 153.0
7 (8) Bayern Munich 150.3
8 (10) Liverpool 133.9
9 (7) Internazionale 131.3
10 (12) AS Roma 106.1
11 (15) Spurs 103.1
12 (3) Juventus 97.7
13 (11) Olympique Lyonnais 94.6
14 (13) Newcastle Utd 87.1
15 (16) Hamburg SV 81.0
16 (14) Schalke 04 76.9
17 (n/a) Celtic 75.2
18 (n/a) Valencia 72.4
19 (n/a) Olympique de Marseille 66.6
20 (n/a) Werder Bremen 65.5

[zippy85]

Spanish Clubs Rack Up Massive Tax Debt


Professional football clubs in the country owe €607m in back taxes.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=793884

[pc4th]

Dinamo Moscow top richest list
Russia - 25 March, 2005

Dinamo Moscow are the richest club in the Russian Premier Liga thanks to investment from Alexei Fedorychev, head of Fedcominvest company and the club owner and a sponsorship deal with Xerox that reaps US$3 million a year. Champions Lokomotiv Moscow are second in the club list with a yearly budget of US$50m, which mainly comes from sponsor Russian Railway Company Ltd. CSKA Moscow, sponsored by oil company Sibneft (US$18m a year) which belongs to Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich - is in the third place with US$40m. CSKA are also sponsored by English company Bluecastle Enterprises and AVO Kapital. Terek Grozny, from the Republic of Chechnya, promoted to the top flight last season come in fourth. The club has an annual budget of US$30m, while main sponsor is local businessman Umar Dzhabrailov, and his company Plaza.. Nine-time champions Spartak Moscow, which are sponsored by Russia’s biggest oil company LUKOIL, are fifth with an annual budget of US$25m.

Yearly Budget in 2005:

1. Dinamo Moscow $55-60?
2. Lokomotiv Moscow: $50 mil
3. CSKA Moscow $40 mil
4. Terek Grozny $30 mil
5. Spartak Moscow $25 mil

http://www.eufootball.biz/Finance/070507-CSKA-Moscow-books-the-best-balanced-in-Russia.html

Of the big Russian clubs, Zenit Saint Petersburg has an annual budget of about $70 million, Lokomotiv Moscow $60 million, CSKA just under $52 million and Spartak Moscow $50 million. Only CSKA comes close to breaking even.

Zenit Saint Petersburg: $70 mil budget (2007)
Lokomotiv Moscow: $60 mil budget (2007)
CSKA $52 mil budget (2007)
Spartak Moscow $50 mil (2007)

It's probably safe to say the average RPL club generate about $30 mil a year in revenue.


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My new educated guess:


1. Premiership (average $150 mil per team) 06/07
2. Bundesliga (average $100 mil per team) 06/07
3. La Liga (average $90 mil per team) 06/07
4. Serie A (average $80 mil per team) 06/07
5. Ligue 1 (average $70 mil per team) 06/07

My educated guess for 6-10 positions:

6. Scottish Premier League ~$35-40 mil
7. Dutch League ~$30-35 mil
8. Russia Premier League ~$28-33 mil
9. Portugese First Division ~$27-32 mil
10. English Championship (average $27.4 mil per team) 06/07 per Deloitte

[zippy85]

Yearly Budget in 2005:

1. Dinamo Moscow $55-60?
2. Lokomotiv Moscow: $50 mil
3. CSKA Moscow $40 mil
4. Terek Grozny $30 mil
5. Spartak Moscow $25 mil

http://www.eufootball.biz/Finance/070507-CSKA-Moscow-books-the-best-balanced-in-Russia.html



Zenit Saint Petersburg: $70 mil budget (2007)
Lokomotiv Moscow: $60 mil budget (2007)
CSKA $52 mil budget (2007)
Spartak Moscow $50 mil (2007)

It's probably safe to say the average RPL club generate about $30 mil a year in revenue.


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My new educated guess:


1. Premiership (average $150 mil per team) 06/07
2. Bundesliga (average $100 mil per team) 06/07
3. La Liga (average $90 mil per team) 06/07
4. Serie A (average $80 mil per team) 06/07
5. Ligue 1 (average $70 mil per team) 06/07

My educated guess for 6-10 positions:

6. Scottish Premier League ~$35-40 mil
7. Dutch League ~$30-35 mil
8. Russia Premier League ~$28-33 mil
9. Portugese First Division ~$27-32 mil
10. English Championship (average $27.4 mil per team) 06/07 per Deloitte
The compny that owns Zenit St Petersberg dwarfs Abramovich's billions, i've fogot his companies name but i read about it, i think its from Oil and Steel.

[Cirdan]

However, Bundesliga is the most profitable league because they spend less relative to other leagues on wages. (i.e. 55% of revenue whereas other leagues spend 60-65% of revenue). There is a cap on spending in Bundesliga as a percentage of revenue.

Not true, there is no cap on spending in the Bundesliga. The financial regulations are tougher than elsewhere, but they still only include the ability of a club to pay the bills in the upcoming season, there are no caps on wages, debts or anything else.

Why they have such a low wage/turnover ratio, I cannot say, I think it has to do with the low broadcast income, they have to get revenue elsewhere and invest in stadiums/merchandise etc. Also, I think the Kirch bancrupcy of 2002 and the subsequent cutbacks in revenue and the near-disaster of Borussia Dortmund in 2004 in addition to the tighter financial restrictions made the managers in Germany more carefull than they are elsewhere.

btw, you can find an interesting page about finances of Scottish clubs there: http://www.football-finances.org.uk/spl/index.htm

That page does not have information about Dunferminle and Inverness, but if it's anywhere near accurate, the SPLs average revenue in 06/07 was probably closer to 25 mio $/team than to 30. Of course with the relatively big success of the big firm and Aberdeen in last seasons Eurocups, the numbers should rise significantly for 07/08.

For the Netherlands, someone collected budgets for the upcoming season on Bert Kassies page: http://kassiesa.com/uefaforum2/viewtopic.php?t=924

average budget would be 21.7 mio € (~27 mio $)... of course, that's budget, not revenue, and it's 08/09, not 06/07, but it might still be an indicator.

So, revenues in the Championship, Holland, Scotland and probably Portugal seem to be very, very similar ^^ I'm very unsure about Russia, since while we can see what the revenue of the bigger clubs roughly look like, it's difficult to assess if the rest is around 20-30 mio or closer to 5-10. if I take Zippys numbers for 2007 and add 20 mio for each of the other 12 teams, I get an average revenue of 29.5 mio, I think that's rather too high than too low, but again we have almost the same number as the rest... so, dividing those 5 leagues seems impossible :P

my best guess for 06/07:

6.: Russian Premier League (~25-30 mio $)
7.: English Championship (27.4 mio $)
8.: Dutch Eredivisie ( ~24-27 mio $)
9.: Scottish Premier League (~25 mio $)
10.: Portugese first division (~20-25 mio $)

But I'm pretty sure the exact ranking changes every season, as close as those numbers seem to be.

As for the rest, I'd think that the Turkish and Greek leagues might have an average revenue of around 20 mio $ per team, the German and Italian second divisions probably come next with some 15-20 mio.

[pc4th]

Thank Cirdan, much appreciated!!

The world's top 19:

1. Premiership (average $150 mil per team) 06/07
2. Bundesliga (average $100 mil per team) 06/07
3. La Liga (average $90 mil per team) 06/07
4. Serie A (average $80 mil per team) 06/07
5. Ligue 1 (average $70 mil per team) 06/07
6. Brazilian League (average ~$43 mil per team) 06/07
7. Mexican Football League (average ~$35 mil per team)
8. J-league (average ~$31 mil per team)
9. Scottish Premier League (average ~$30 mil per team)
10. Russian Premier League (average ~$25-30 mil per team)
11. Argentina (average ~$25-29 mil)
12. Dutch Eredivisie ( ~$24-27 mil)
13. English Championship (average $27.4 mil per team) 06/07
14. Portugese first division (~$20-25 mil)
15. Turkish Premier League (~$20 mil)
16. Greece (~$20 mil)
17. Serie B (~$15-20 mil
18. Bundesliga 2 (~$15-20 mil)
19. MLS (average ~$12-15 mil per team)

[johan neeskens]

1. 7. Dutch League ~$30-35 mil

I doubt that the average is that high. I do know last season's annual budget of the Dutch top six:

1. Ajax & PSV (65 million Euros)
3. Feyenoord (35 million)
4. AZ (30 million)
5. Heerenveen (20 million)
6. Twente (13.5 million)

Our poorest club has a budget of around 2 million.

I know btw that Twente has upped its budget considerably this season, but it's no way 28 million.

[zippy85]

I doubt that the average is that high. I do know last season's annual budget of the Dutch top six:

1. Ajax & PSV (65 million Euros)
3. Feyenoord (35 million)
4. AZ (30 million)
5. Heerenveen (20 million)
6. Twente (13.5 million)

Our poorest club has a budget of around 2 million.

I know btw that Twente has upped its budget considerably this season, but it's no way 28 million.
Mclaren will blow it all on shaun wright phillips, at least you dodged Robinson anyway.

[lost]

does anyone have a link to comprehensive stats (or just generally well educated guesses) for transfer expenditure and wage bill. i would find these to be the best judge of clubs riches in real (football) terms. the club who can put the most into these is the richest in my opinion.

[johan neeskens]

Mclaren will blow it all on shaun wright phillips, at least you dodged Robinson anyway.

I'm guessing Mr Wright-Philips makes more in the premiership in a month than he would over here in a year. So it ain't never gonna happen. For that reason you ought to give McLaren a bit of respect btw. Unlike other unemployed English managers, he's willing to give it a try in Holland for a comparatively low wage. Whereas most others would rather join a third division club in England simply for the money. McLaren at least is willing to stick his neck out and whether he'll fail or succeed over here, he'll be an improved manager for it either way.

[zippy85]

I'm guessing Mr Wright-Philips makes more in the premiership in a month than he would over here in a year. So it ain't never gonna happen. For that reason you ought to give McLaren a bit of respect btw. Unlike other unemployed English managers, he's willing to give it a try in Holland for a comparatively low wage. Whereas most others would rather join a third division club in England simply for the money. McLaren at least is willing to stick his neck out and whether he'll fail or succeed over here, he'll be an improved manager for it either way.
I agree i was very happy he took that job, and not just because its your club.
I just feel a bit nervous because if he does really bad then the rest of Europe will laugh at English managers even more.

[aloisius]

More revenue doesn't mean, that german clubs have more money than english, italian or spanish clubs. Chelsea, Manchester, Milan or Real don't give a shit about their revenues, they can spend as much money as they want.


except for Chelsea, completely untrue.

[johan neeskens]

does anyone have a link to comprehensive stats (or just generally well educated guesses) for transfer expenditure and wage bill. i would find these to be the best judge of clubs riches in real (football) terms. the club who can put the most into these is the richest in my opinion.

With that you'd immediately dismiss 75% of European leagues. Selling players is what most European clubs survive on, after all. Clubs that can put extra money into transfers and wage bills form a minute minority in Europe.

[zippy85]

I'm guessing Mr Wright-Philips makes more in the premiership in a month than he would over here in a year. So it ain't never gonna happen. For that reason you ought to give McLaren a bit of respect btw. Unlike other unemployed English managers, he's willing to give it a try in Holland for a comparatively low wage. Whereas most others would rather join a third division club in England simply for the money. McLaren at least is willing to stick his neck out and whether he'll fail or succeed over here, he'll be an improved manager for it either way.
If aint is short fore 'are not' or is not' then you just screwed up there.

With thanks to Modette