COLOMBIA vs. Ecuador -2008 @ NJ

[pepinointer]

El seleccionador de Colombia está preocupado por el 'bajón' de algunos jugadores
17/07/2008 11:15 (-6 GTM)

Bogotá, 17 jul (EFE). El seleccionador colombiano, Jorge Luis Pinto, admitió hoy su "preocupación" por las lesiones y el bajo rendimiento en sus clubes que afectan a varios futbolistas de su confianza a dos meses de los próximos partidos de las eliminatorias sudamericanas del Mundial de 2010, ante Uruguay y Chile.
"Es lógico que esté preocupado por el momento de algunos jugadores porque han venido jugando con el equipo y sé que sienten el vacío de no competir. Espero que se recuperen de sus lesiones y retomen cuanto antes su nivel", dijo en una entrevista con Efe.
Pinto aludió a los casos del lateral Rubén Bustos (Internacional brasileño), los puntas Edixon Perea (Gremio brasileño), Wason Rentería (Oporto portugués) y el defensor Cristian Zapata (Udinese italiano).
El entrenador matizó que hay hombres que pueden suplir a los que han sido titulares y pasan por un 'bajón' en su rendimiento.
También hizo una radiografía, desde el sector defensivo, pasando por la zona de volantes y hasta el ataque, de lo que puede pasar al equipo en caso de que algunos titulares no se recuperen a tiempo.
"Hay alternativas. En las laterales, por ejemplo, hay que darle mayor presencia a hombres como Camilo Zúñiga o Elvis González. Otros, como Estiven Vélez, han mejorado su fútbol y su forma física. Los centrales están bien y hemos demostrado tener recambio, así que habrá que ver quién está mejor para llamarlo", afirmó.
De la zona de centrocampistas, Pinto dijo que no puede opinar sobre la situación de jugadores como Macnelly Torres, Giovanny Hernández o Carlos Sánchez, pues el primero "apenas está jugando sus primeros partidos con el Colo Colo" chileno y los otros dos "aún no han comenzado las temporadas con su clubes".
En cuanto a la delantera de Colombia, que únicamente ha marcado cuatro tantos en seis partidos de las eliminatorias, confió en la mejoría y anunció que sigue buscando alternativas para el gol.
"En ataque doy como un hecho la recuperación de Wason (Rentería). También hay que mirar a José 'Pepe' Moreno (Independiente) y espero que Radamel Falcao García (River Plate) tenga una nueva oportunidad porque es un derecho que él ha venido peleando y hay que dársela en cualquier momento", sostuvo."Espero que Hugo Rodallega (Necaxa mexicano) ratifique su convocatoria, hay que darle más importancia a Dayro Moreno y tendremos que mirar los jugadores que muestren buen nivel en la Liga (colombiana). Ojalá que todos se acoplen a sus equipos y lleguen con buen ritmo de competencia para las eliminatorias", agregó.
Sobre el caso de Juan Pablo Ángel, ex goleador del River Plate y del Aston Villa inglés y figura actual del fútbol estadounidense, admitió que lo ha estado observando.
No obstante, subrayó que siente que "el fútbol estadounidense no llena el nivel de exigencia que el cuerpo técnico quiere".
Pinto afirmó que la selección colombiana está tomando la 'cara' que él quiere, y desarrollando el esquema táctico que desea.
"Hay que destacar que en este equipo jugaron siete futbolistas menores de 23 años en los (pasados) partidos contra Perú y Ecuador, que es un equipo en evolución, pero que comienza a mostrar seguridad en defensa y orden táctico en todas su líneas", enfatizó.
Agregó que le ha gustado la compenetración táctica del conjunto colombiano, la seguridad defensiva y el orden colectivo, aunque piensa que le ha faltado mayor "criterio" con el balón y "mayor volumen de ataque".
Sobre el partido amistoso contra Ecuador el próximo 20 de agosto, en la ciudad estadounidense de Nueva Jersey, Pinto manifestó que será "importante, pues dará roce internacional a los jugadores y porque el rival es difícil y ha evolucionado mucho últimamente, como lo demostró antes nosotros en Quito", en el partido que terminó 0-0.
Añadió que los compromisos de septiembre ante Uruguay, en Bogotá, y Chile, en Santiago, correspondientes a la séptima y octava jornadas de las eliminatorias, serán vitales.
"Estos son dos rivales directos y tenemos que sacarles puntos. Ambos tiene virtudes defensivas, pero también dan algunas ventajas y tenemos que saberlas aprovechar al máximo", explicó.
Pinto destacó, además, la victoria por 3-2 obtenida por los chilenos ante los venezolanos, en la sexta jornada de las eliminatorias, la cual la calificó como "sorpresiva".

ESTE PINTO SI ES BN SINICO, COMO ASI Q ESPERO? RADAMEL SE HA ROTO EL CUL,O TODO EL ULTIMO AÑO PARA ESTAR EN LA SELECCION Y LUEGO PA Q LO VENGA SENTA,R UN TRONCO Q NO HA HECHO NADA EN SU CARRERA SOLO ROBAR EN BRAZIL Y FRANCIA.

[MrPaisa]

This only makes sense, JPA plays in the stadium that the game will be held, lol. It's like going to Necaxa's stadium and leaving Roda out, pinto said this today:

Jorge Luis Pinto ratificó una vez más su posición desde que inició su era al frente de la tricolor: “La puertas de la Selección Colombia no están cerradas para nadie”. En esta oportunidad, citó nuevamente la frase para hacer referencia al diálogo que entabló en días pasados con el atacante colombiano del Red Bulls de la Major League Soccer, Juan Pablo Ángel.


“Hablé con él y le dije que en cualquier momento podría ser convocado, aunque todavía no hemos definido nada en cuanto al próximo llamado”. Corroborando lo que ya había adelantado el atacante paisa hace un par de días.

[efernandez9]

lets get all the comments on the next friendly here

you guys can keep the other thread for you meeting y picaito en las afueras del Giants stadium.:rolleyes:

[crzdcolombian]

.... is Dayro the #10 we have been searching for.... seems like he will play alot like Tessor moreno but this guy at least feels love for the NT and not just cash

Do you guys think this game will/should be trying a few more guys or building up more chemistry.....

I think its too late to add more guys but would still love to see Charria,Gio Moreno,Luis Mosquera for AMC

but I think every other spot of the NT should be locked, but AMC,LB, and maybe RCM tho i wish we changed formation but some guys shouldnt be called because they need to win spots on their teams

--------Julio--------------(tho I wish they'd give him a rest and give Zapata a chance)
Bustos-Josmier-Carlos Valdez-Velez/Amero
--Sanchez--Amaya---Castrillon/Motta
--------Dayro/Luis Mosquera------------
---Rodallega/Dayro------Falcao

CBs - Think we need to give Zapata time to heal, Mosquera to keep winning his spot at Sevilla, and Nelson might be loaned so let him at least stay at Inter b4 calling him. I think we should give more time to these 2 Josmier Mosquera and Carlos Valdez as they did well against Venezulea in our last friendly.

Bustos for Zuniga - we need Zuniga to have a little time b4 giving him his 1st call up since going to italy... he needs to be a starter by the Chile game

Guarin - cant pass and needs to win his spot at porto

Renteria - same we dont know where he is going to be but right now he is not wanted at porto

Id Start Rodallega at CF if we can put Dayro at AMC but if not then start Dayro up front with Falcao

[MrPaisa]

charria? dude you is craaaazyyy.... charria is to old to be given a shot at the nats, although gio moreno would be an interesting call as a sub

[MrPaisa]

by the way, bustos for zuniga? bustos just got kicked off his team and zuniga is in repseason training with siena, would be perfect for him as warm up for serie a

[crzdcolombian]

by the way, bustos for zuniga? bustos just got kicked off his team and zuniga is in repseason training with siena, would be perfect for him as warm up for serie a

Charria is 30.... Gio Hernandez is 32, Cortes 31, PetroCorro 31..... just got call ups

Charria good free kicks and is decent just need

Zuniga just went to Siena... he has 3 weeks to win his spot??? lets give him more time

charria? dude you is craaaazyyy.... charria is to old to be given a shot at the nats, although gio moreno would be an interesting call as a sub

[colombo]

bustos just got kicked off his team

What do you mean????

[ryu79]

What do you mean????

He had a one year contract at Inter do Porto Alegre - which has not been renewed. Allegedly, he is looking at offers from a few clubs in Brasil and will stay there.

[efernandez9]

by the way, bustos for zuniga? bustos just got kicked off his team and zuniga is in repseason training with siena, would be perfect for him as warm up for serie a buenas razones para no llamar a ninguno de los dos!!:p

es un amistoso para ensayar a JPA, Toja y de pronto un carrilero nuevo
tal vez toja no pero si dos carrileros- por derecha para reemplazar a camilo (mientras se gana su puesto en el siena) y la otra punta, pues en el a.Nal ya stiven velez no aperece ni en la banca.

ese sera el puesto interesante para esta convocatoria.

[padrino187]

El unico jugador que realemente merece ser llamado es Mao Molina.
Juega en una liga competitiva (Brazil) que puede ser seguida.
Es un jugador versatil que puede resolver la falencias tacticas ofensivas que tiene la selecciòn pq tiene buen remate de media distancia, buena visiòn de juego, buen pase, gol y tiro libre.
Puede actuar como 10, como lateral, como media punta.
Es uno que la suda todas...
4 Goles en la ultima libertadores y se ganò el puesto en Santos no en un equipo de medio pelo...
Ademas tiene 28 años considerando que en la selecciòn se han llamado gente de 30 para arriba sin meritos tiene todo para estar ahi!!!

[pibe10]

Molina scored a goal in santos's last match and you wouldn't belive it........ I found ALDO LEAO!!!!!! jajajajajajajajaj :D after so much efforts to locate Nacional's former star who made a mistake and moved to Morelia and we didn't hear from him again. one of our talented 10's, unfortunatlly he doesn't deserve a call but maybe since it's only a friendly it's an opportunity to test him and I also agree with efernandez, we need to test Angel and Toja who play well in the MLS. since we miss a target man, I say let's give JPA a chance. hopefully to see Wason back to the NT again...we will have problem on the left side, since Velez doesn't play good now, I would go for Marin who plays well in Libertad and can play as a wing back also. another option is Pablo Armero of America, he had great semester...maybe Casierra or Arizala. we need to test these guys. as for GK, Pinto have to give chances like friendlies to Ospina!! this dude has proved himself as one of the best keepers in South America, for me even in the world, he's 19 and deserve his chances. and I would like to see Gio Moreno...I'm sure this kid has the skills to succee in the NT also, so at least to test him in friendlies even though I would call him for the next qualifiers also. he has wonderful technic, great ball control and he can shot FK almost like Bustos! (scored few time in Envigado). I'm really looking forward to watch Pinto's squad.

[D.I.M]

Molina scored a goal in santos's last match and you wouldn't belive it........ I found ALDO LEAO!!!!!! jajajajajajajajaj :D after so much efforts to locate Nacional's former star who made a mistake and moved to Morelia and we didn't hear from him again. one of our talented 10's, unfortunatlly he doesn't deserve a call but maybe since it's only a friendly it's an opportunity to test him and I also agree with efernandez, we need to test Angel and Toja who play well in the MLS. since we miss a target man, I say let's give JPA a chance. hopefully to see Wason back to the NT again...we will have problem on the left side, since Velez doesn't play good now, I would go for Marin who plays well in Libertad and can play as a wing back also. another option is Pablo Armero of America, he had great semester...maybe Casierra or Arizala. we need to test these guys. as for GK, Pinto have to give chances like friendlies to Ospina!! this dude has proved himself as one of the best keepers in South America, for me even in the world, he's 19 and deserve his chances. and I would like to see Gio Moreno...I'm sure this kid has the skills to succee in the NT also, so at least to test him in friendlies even though I would call him for the next qualifiers also. he has wonderful technic, great ball control and he can shot FK almost like Bustos! (scored few time in Envigado). I'm really looking forward to watch Pinto's squad.

I think we definitely need to call Gio Moreno and Molina.. I didn't watch the game yesterday and it seems Moreno didn't play taht well, but neither did the whole team. Still we need new midfielders and I think these guys can do the trick.

[crzdcolombian]

I think we definitely need to call Gio Moreno and Molina.. I didn't watch the game yesterday and it seems Moreno didn't play taht well, but neither did the whole team. Still we need new midfielders and I think these guys can do the trick.

I saw the game it was awful... Nacional had the ball the whole game but they played with 1 striker and 3 AMCs.... but they need Amaya to get the ball

Gio Moreno is the real deal.... Angulo I didnt like so much and Charria either btu I mean 3 amcs is a bit much

when they took put in 2 strikers and had gio moreno - charria play together they got alot better

But Gio moreno is great player in a few years can be a starter for us, depending how Pino keeps developing

[MrPaisa]

I saw the game it was awful... Nacional had the ball the whole game but they played with 1 striker and 3 AMCs.... but they need Amaya to get the ball

Gio Moreno is the real deal.... Angulo I didnt like so much and Charria either btu I mean 3 amcs is a bit much

when they took put in 2 strikers and had gio moreno - charria play together they got alot better

But Gio moreno is great player in a few years can be a starter for us, depending how Pino keeps developing


what I like about Moreno are those long distance shots, you don't see that very often in futbol. It's like he field goal kicks them in.

[crzdcolombian]

what I like about Moreno are those long distance shots, you don't see that very often in futbol. It's like he field goal kicks them in.

I know :)

Its not like Im asking him to start on the NT but I think he is better than big mac or gio hern who are just in the game for 3 minutes and make a pass but the rest of the game is like playing with 10 men.... and no midfield

I say pinto needs to give him 15 minutes at the end of every game, or do that with Pino or Luis Mosquera and it would be more effective than bringing in another defender :)

[pepinointer]

I know :)

Its not like Im asking him to start on the NT but I think he is better than big mac or gio hern who are just in the game for 3 minutes and make a pass but the rest of the game is like playing with 10 men.... and no midfield

I say pinto needs to give him 15 minutes at the end of every game, or do that with Pino or Luis Mosquera and it would be more effective than bringing in another defender :)

dont worry mosquera also appear 3 minutes in all the matches, after his first match with the national team you are going to say that he sucks, and the reason that we dont have midfield in the matchs believed me that is not fault of gio and macnelly...........just is the way that pinto want to play

[colombo]

He had a one year contract at Inter do Porto Alegre - which has not been renewed. Allegedly, he is looking at offers from a few clubs in Brasil and will stay there.

But he just arrived to Inter in january....??? How come...???

[D.I.M]

Thinking about this logically I don't think we need so much a "10" or that the attacking midfielders aren't good enough. It's ture they sometimes don't shine like they're supposed to on the local team. On the national team they have even less of a chance to do so. I think the real problem, as I am probably beating a dead horse that has been killed by an atom bomb, is the the defensive midfielder's not getting up to attack. They take get the ball and pass it on to the Torres or Hernandez and it's like "Here you go, my job is done, now run along with the two forwards against 8 men". The attacking begins the moment the defensive midfielders receive the ball. The guys we have need to not only pass properly but beging thinking more offensively. So it doesn't matter if who play if they're left to do all the attacking responsibilities. They can't do it themselves.

[pepinointer]

i see that these midfields in their clubs are awesome, our DMF and AMF in thir clubs attack very good but pinto gave they a differnt instruction and philosfy when play in our national team, i would love to have a coach as quintabani,simeone or bernal in the NT, that are very good in the tactically part and apply very good inthe offensive one