The 2018 World Cup will be held in Israel&Palestine!

[Mr PaLesTinE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-oEOPUeEE

The 2018 World Cup will be held in Israel&Palestine!
Or so we wish to believe...
In fact, this site is dedicated to making this wish come true. Only a positive, long term vision for this troubled region can make a fundamental change! “We have a dream”, and we're urging you to support us and show the world that we are not the only ones.... Sign up now, and get a seat for the final in our Jerusalem stadium!

you can find more in www.goal2018.org (http://www.goal2018.org)

[Syriaman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-oEOPUeEE


The 2018 World Cup will be held in Israel&Palestine!
Or so we wish to believe...
In fact, this site is dedicated to making this wish come true. Only a positive, long term vision for this troubled region can make a fundamental change! “We have a dream”, and we're urging you to support us and show the world that we are not the only ones.... Sign up now, and get a seat for the final in our Jerusalem stadium!

you can find more in www.goal2018.org (http://www.goal2018.org)


Would be cool!:D

[Master O]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-oEOPUeEE

The 2018 World Cup will be held in Israel&Palestine!
Or so we wish to believe...
In fact, this site is dedicated to making this wish come true. Only a positive, long term vision for this troubled region can make a fundamental change! “We have a dream”, and we're urging you to support us and show the world that we are not the only ones.... Sign up now, and get a seat for the final in our Jerusalem stadium!

you can find more in www.goal2018.org (http://www.goal2018.org)

I got a few questions:

1) Security: How on earth do you expect Hamas and similar groups to not disrupt the World Cup at every opportunity?

Just this alone would make Israel and Palestine hosting impossible, before considering anything else.

2) Infrastructure: How many stadiums are there between the two countries? I'm sure Israel has a lot, but what about Palestine itself?

3) Arab non-recognition of the Israeli State: With Israel being a host, any Arab country in the World Cup would forfeit any attempted match, since they do not recognize the existence of the state of Israel.

How does FIFA deal with this?

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I don't like being a downer, but seriously, there's just no way they're hosting the World Cup, short of an absolute miracle.

[Jwaksman]

Yeah, there is zero chance of this happening for the reasons mentioned. Palestine has no stadiums capable of hosting FIFA games, and the odds of being able to avoid multiple terrorist attacks are slim-to-none.

Israel has a few large stadiums, but not nearly enough to host a world cup (or even a euro) by itself, and you would still have major security concerns.

And, of course, the issue that few muslim athletes would go. The muslim teams would not go for sure. And even teams from non-muslim countries would have muslims who would individually boycott. This is why Israel left the AFC more than three decades ago - too many teams refused to play them.

There are still too many fundamentalist islamic dictatorships in that part of the world for this to work anytime in the near future.

[Mr PaLesTinE]

so look
I got a few questions:

1) Security: How on earth do you expect Hamas and similar groups to not disrupt the World Cup at every opportunity?

about Hamas the global attitude was wrong , hamas doesn;t deal with international issues , before 3 years just Hamas rejected any deal with israel , now Hamas work to make deals with israel > and what's the differe from Past to now ?

2) Infrastructure: How many stadiums are there between the two countries? I'm sure Israel has a lot, but what about Palestine itself?

this is one of my opinion , Palestine hasn't any stadiums and else Israel hasn't any staduim that could hosted a world cup matches

3) Arab non-recognition of the Israeli State: With Israel being a host, any Arab country in the World Cup would forfeit any attempted match, since they do not recognize the existence of the state of Israel.

In Palestine we says that Arab went to Israel in night LOOL , I think when Peace held in the area the equation will be changed

How does FIFA deal with this?
how does Real madrid come to the area Last year ?

what i belive on in this topic that this campaign is just for media use, and Not for i'm Palestinian, this is an Israeli advertisement
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I don't like being a downer, but seriously, there's just no way they're hosting the World Cup, short of an absolute miracle.

[Jwaksman]

Can anyone else understand what he just said? What does "about Hamas the global attitude was wrong , hamas doesn;t deal with international issues , before 3 years just Hamas rejected any deal with israel , now Hamas work to make deals with israel > and what's the differe from Past to now ?" mean?

As for Real Madrid coming to Israel... yes, big teams can come to Israel. They host UEFA cup and Champions League matches. But there are only a couple of stadiums in Israel large enough for games like that. Not nearly enough for a world cup.


And if it's an Israel/Palestine "joint" bid, then you would HAVE to have a game in Palestine. There is ZERO chance that Palestine would tear $100 Million away from terrorism projects to spend it on a stadium. And even if they did, it would just get looted anyway (remember what happened to that lovely greenhouse paid for by Bill Gates and other wealthy Americans when Israel pulled out of the settlements along gaza?).




Yes, Israel is capable of being half of a joint-bid for a Euro or a World Cup, but who exactly would they join with? Most muslim countries won't even let their athletes compete in Israel - there is zero chance they'd work together to put together a Tournament. A longterm possibility MIGHT be an Egypt/Israel duel bid. But that would require a lot of new stadiums in those two countries. 2018 is far, far too close. Maybe somewhere way down the line, like 2026, if the socio-political climate changes a lot in the next decade or so.

[ranul]

i wonder if they mean the 3018 world cup

[benficafan3]

Why is this even a thread? Such a ridiculous proposal, someone just close this one ASAP.

[tomwilhelm]

So far the responses have been reasonable and occasionally insightful on a point or two.

But it's on a short leash.

[German Ham]

2018? I'm all for optimism but this is absolutely ridiculous. Try for the 2030 World Cup at the earliest, and even that will probably be too soon.

[Jwaksman]

2018? I'm all for optimism but this is absolutely ridiculous. Try for the 2030 World Cup at the earliest, and even that will probably be too soon.



Even 2030 is impossible. There is no way Palestine will begin building even one stadium capable of hosting a world cup game within the next 10 years. In order for a joint bid they'd need atleast three or four, which would take (in the absolutely unrealistic best-case scenario) at least 30 years. That would mean putting in a bid for a world cup around 2040, which would put them in line for the 2052 world cup at the absolute earliest. And even that is pretty unrealistic.

Honestly, this is something that is so far into the future that it's impossible for anybody to make a reasonable estimate. It would be like asking people in 1945 to predict the 2002 world cup... South Korea didn't even EXIST back then.


Like I said, it's possible to argue for a joint Israel-Egypt bid for the 2030 or 2034 world cup, but I'd put that as a very, very, very long shot scenario.

[zasal911]

i wouldn't mind since the Palestinian NT is like 50% Chilean born...


It would be interesting, but unfortunately i don't see it happening. FIFA isn't the type of organizaition that cares to make a political statement like that. Actually, they try to shy away as much as possible


thing is though, if things were ever peaceful and stable ... which we can all hope for, then you can bet the IOC and FIFA will be all over the region

[siino]

how about the 2090 world cup, thats about it

[Excape Goat]

2018? I'm all for optimism but this is absolutely ridiculous. Try for the 2030 World Cup at the earliest, and even that will probably be too soon.

People are fighting over the Holy land since Abraham. King David , Jesus Christ, Richard the Lionhearted, Saladin, Lawrence of Arabia, etc all dreamed to resolve the question in their lifetime.

So I don't see the conflict resolves in my lifetime. 2030????

[winster]

Would FIFA like a joint bid from teams in seperate Confederations?

[Jwaksman]

Would FIFA like a joint bid from teams in seperate Confederations?



I don't see why it would matter. It might mess with the politics a bit (i.e. would an Israel/Egypt WC keep the European giants from being able to get one of the next two WCs?), but otherwise it wouldn't matter.

Certainly that is not one of the top 100 reasons why there won't be an Israel/Palestine WC bid over the next 25 years.

[winster]

All right so I'm going to put together a time line here.

10 years to reach a perminant peace settlement. (This is highly optimistic. Obviously neither of our two potential next presidents will help with this. McCain is too much of a firebrand and Obama is going to be everyone's doormat).

10 years for full implementation of the deal. (when I invision this I think 20 years: there's a reason Oslo failed)

10 years for modernization of Palestine's infrastructure.
and throw in another 5 years for changing the Palestinian education system, rewriting its Constitution and clarifying the Covenant and eliminating the PLO propaganda machine. Hell, maybe we can write the Israelis a constitution to boot.

Another 10 years for this progress to gain international credibility (especially within the Middle East itself).

8-12 years for a World Cup to be approved. I'm guessing that if South Africa pulls off its stadium building spree, Palestine and Israel can add a few good stadiums in this same time period.


So we're look at an excess of 50 years before a World Cup will be possible.
Luckily after fifty years everyone in Hamas, Al-Aqsa and the extreme right wing/likud camp will be dead so internal terrorism would be unlikely if the process made it this far. IF