Proper Restart?

[Hellobob57]

White vs. Red. The ball is in play on one end of the field, red has possession. On the opposite end of the field, a red player punches a white player. The ref stops play and sends-off the red player. Now what is the proper restart?

[jkc313]

Where on the other end of the field are the red and white players? This is Violent COnduct but it's also the DFK foul of striking. Either restart with a DFK or a PK

[Wreave]

DFK or PK in favor of white at the point where the red player struck the white player (not where the ball was).

This is straight out of the FIFA Q&A from a few years ago. From memory:

Q. Red scores and the referee signals for a goal. As both teams are walking back for the kickoff, the referee notices that the AR on the far side of the field has his flag raised. The AR informs the referee that, prior to the goal being scored, a red defender struck a white player, while both were standing inside the red penalty area. What is the restart?

A. The apparent goal by red is nullified. The red defender is sent off for VC, and play is restarted with a white PK.

[Hellobob57]

Thank you. Basically I just needed to know if the restart was where the vc took place, or where the ball was.

[Hattrix]

DFK or PK in favor of white at the point where the red player struck the white player (not where the ball was).

This is straight out of the FIFA Q&A from a few years ago. From memory:

Q. Red scores and the referee signals for a goal. As both teams are walking back for the kickoff, the referee notices that the AR on the far side of the field has his flag raised. The AR informs the referee that, prior to the goal being scored, a red defender struck a white player, while both were standing inside the red penalty area. What is the restart?

A. The apparent goal by red is nullified. The red defender is sent off for VC, and play is restarted with a white PK.

Let's suppose it's the other AR with his flag raised, and a teammate of the apparent goal scorer was struck in his own half moments before the goal was scored. There's a send off for the striker, a DFK back in the other team's half, and no goal. Makes me wonder why teams with one goal leads don't spend stoppage time doing kung fu.

The answer above seems to imply that if the goal is allowed to stand, then the VC can't be punished. Wow. I'd say the non-potheaded way to handle the above is to retroactively apply the advantage call, allow the goal and eject the violent guy.

[Gary V]

Let's suppose it's the other AR with his flag raised, and a teammate of the apparent goal scorer was struck in his own half moments before the goal was scored. There's a send off for the striker, a DFK back in the other team's half, and no goal.Of course not. You apply advantage to the foul, and the goal scores. Then at the stoppage - when the ball is in the net off the field - you send off the perpetrator. This would be one of the very few rare cases when advantage is applied in a send-off situation.

[Untroubled by Reason]

Thank you. Basically I just needed to know if the restart was where the vc took place, or where the ball was.
This is an important point, Bob. If you understand this, it eliminates a lot of confusion: it's at the spot of the foul.

[Hattrix]

Of course not. You apply advantage to the foul, and the goal scores. Then at the stoppage - when the ball is in the net off the field - you send off the perpetrator. This would be one of the very few rare cases when advantage is applied in a send-off situation.

Absolutely right, so why in the world in the other scenario would a goal that had already been scored be nullified and a PK, which only has an 80% chance of being converted, be awarded? The appropriate move is to apply advantage and give a sendoff before the kickoff, not "nullified and PK" as the FIFA Q&A quote from Wreave stated.

[PVancouver]

The goal is nullified because red fouled white on one end of the field before red scored on the other end of the field. It is red that scored and white that gets the PK. It does not matter that the referee never blew the play dead after the foul but before the goal.

[Hattrix]

Oops. I was thinking the scoring team was fouled, and the AR who would otherwise be running towards midfield was standing with the flag up.