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ludwig
13 Aug 2002, 07:47 PM
Let's say Juventus, Valencia, or ManU versus the WC champion Brazil national team. Who wins?

Shah
13 Aug 2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by ludwig
Let's say Juventus, Valencia, or ManU versus the WC champion Brazil national team. Who wins?

There is a big difference in quality between the likes of Man U, Juventus and Valenica Man U and Juventus could both beat Brazil on a good day, Valencia would not beat Brazil on Brazil's worst day.

ludwig
13 Aug 2002, 08:54 PM
I was gonna say Barcelona, but it would have been surreal watching Rivaldo playing on both sides.

Juanele
14 Aug 2002, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by Shah


There is a big difference in quality between the likes of Man U, Juventus and Valenica Man U and Juventus could both beat Brazil on a good day, Valencia would not beat Brazil on Brazil's worst day.

And why do you say that? Would you say that Real Madrid could beat Brazil? If so then you have to say that Valencia could beat Brazil.

Shah
14 Aug 2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Juanele


And why do you say that? Would you say that Real Madrid could beat Brazil? If so then you have to say that Valencia could beat Brazil.

Actually the current Valencia squad could beat Brazil on a good day. It is my own bais that does not have them up there with Real Madrid and Barca. I retract what I said.

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 04:09 AM
You are putting Brazil on a pedestal as if it's THE unbeatable team. It's a good team and definitely topclass, but let's face it... just like the Germans they usually need quite some luck to make it.

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 09:26 AM
No team could beat the Brazil team,Brazil got the better players than these teams and will outfloor them.

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 10:05 AM
Maybe... maybe not.

trobinson
14 Aug 2002, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by ludwig
Let's say Juventus, Valencia, or ManU versus the WC champion Brazil national team. Who wins?

Are you kidding? Brazil would murder these teams. Let's face it you guys are loking to discredit Brazil in any way possible. If England with a full squad could not be Brazil with ten men, why would ManU, Juventus, or Valencia. The best players in the world make their national side. It's like an all-star team for the country. FIFA has put Brazil in such high regard when they lost to france in WC 1998 and the next week were still ranked higher than them. Or when they had so much trouble qualifying for the WC, but FIFA still ranked them the second best team in the world. I'm not discrediting these club teams, but seriously think about it. You couldn't really field a better team than Brazil has..too many top notch well experienced players. How many times do they have to prove that they are the best team..period.

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 10:35 AM
in 1994 they were about to lose to Holland until Branco fired in a free kick. Lucky escape for the Brazilians.

In 1998 Holland were denied a penalty as Pierre van Hooydonk was pulled to the ground in the penalty box at a 1-1 score. Eventually Holland lost the penalty shoot-out, but everyone agreed Holland had Brazil by the balls that day.

************ Brazil... they're the Germans of South America as far as I'm concerned. Although they DO have footballing capacities.

ludwig
14 Aug 2002, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by AFCA

In 1998 Holland were denied a penalty as Pierre van Hooydonk was pulled to the ground in the penalty box at a 1-1 score. Eventually Holland lost the penalty shoot-out, but everyone agreed Holland had Brazil by the balls that day.

I have that game on tape, which proves that when someone is determined to hate, he/she can make any situation look favorable for his/her side.
"Had them by the balls"???? Brazil was leading that game from minute 48 to minute 82. It was Kluivert who came up with a late goal to send the game into overtime. The van Hooydonk scenario is called "selective memory". Ronaldo was tripped twice in the box on absolute breakaway situations and nothing was called. If that's your definition of
having someone "by the balls" then whatever!

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by AFCA
************ Brazil... they're the Germans of South America as far as I'm concerned. Although they DO have footballing capacities. [/B]

Hehe thats funny.

''Brazil,Germans of South America''

holgers_heroes
14 Aug 2002, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by AFCA
************ Brazil... they're the Germans of South America as far as I'm concerned. Although they DO have footballing capacities. I'd say Germany is the Brazil of Europe.

Alex_1
14 Aug 2002, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by AFCA
************ Brazil... they're the Germans of South America as far as I'm concerned. Although they DO have footballing capacities.

What a fascinating classification! SOmeone's a bit bitter... all that luck, are you sure that Brazil would be the German's of South America or the Irish?

Real Madrid could top Brazil. This has been discussed before. Real Madrid could top Argentina as well. They are, IMO, the best team in the world... and to think they may wind up with Ronaldo.

Dan Loney
14 Aug 2002, 01:10 PM
Real? Juve? Barca? Hand puppets. The Galaxy could chew their faces off like the weasel on the cover of that Frank Zappa album.

AFCA
14 Aug 2002, 01:12 PM
In football when we talk about luck or an ugly goal... it's German.

Matt Clark
14 Aug 2002, 01:17 PM
Almost any top club side COULD beat Brazil. What a daft premise. If the might of Ecuador can do it, then most of the top seeds in the Champions League sure as shitsticks could. That's could ...

ludwig
14 Aug 2002, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Almost any top club side COULD beat Brazil. What a daft premise. If the might of Ecuador can do it, then most of the top seeds in the Champions League sure as shitsticks could. That's could ...

I would even go so far as say SHOULD!
Because the very elite club teams bring in talent from from across the globe. They are not relegated to the talent pool of a single country like ANY national team.

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by holgers_heroes
I'd say Germany is the Brazil of Europe.

Lol haha this thread is killing me!

''Germany,Brazil of Europe''

pololo
14 Aug 2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by AFCA
In football when we talk about luck or an ugly goal... it's German.

and thats why you calling Brazil the Germans of South America??

Lol