Aftermath of the Final [R]

[footyfan1]

Squid. As far as I know, there is no specific rule against "head-butting." I believe head-butting falls under "violent conduct."

Which is also how the referee could have interpreted Podolski's leaning in to provoke the attempted head-butt.

There was intent on the part of both players which is why I think the referee went with the no-call, "boys will be boys" scenario.

[Horsehead]

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[WhiteStar Warriors]

This Spanish team is fairly young so they could be a major player at WC 2010

[footyfan1]

This Spanish team is fairly young so they could be a major player at WC 2010

This should make them one of the favorites.

[futbolmonkey]

well, the aftermath report, nice and simple;

Spain tactically outplayed Germany in much the same way Croatia did...the only difference, Spain can find the back of the net, otherwise, it would have been CRO:SPAIN in the final, which would have been far more entertaining.

Not trying to undermine Germany, they are a great team; however, it seems like they played with a little too much routine instead of forcing their game, which Spain has been doing the entire tournament, luckily they didn't fall into that trap, and that was the difference in the outcome...couldn't have been any other way, especially after that dismantling of russia.

lets see what 2 years brings in the next world cup, should be cool to see...

[sinan]

This Spanish team is fairly young so they could be a major player at WC 2010

what about Germany? I am really wondering, cause I was very hopeful in WC 2006 from their attacking play, but this tournament imo was a little bit disappointing for Germany side, maybe Klinsmann-Low difference.

seems Klose, Ballack pass their zenit point, will there be replacements as good them in the coming years?

Last thing, I never understand this Kuranyi and Gomez can play in Germany NT, I would not put them in my club team in Turkey.

[footyfan1]

Last thing, I never understand this Kuranyi and Gomez can play in Germany NT, I would not put them in my club team in Turkey.

You're wrong on Gomez. He had a crap tourney yes, but take it from someone who watches him week in and week out.

Gomez deserved to be there and deserved the chance he got. He didn't do well, but you'll see him again.

And there's no way in f#cking hell you wouldn't put him on "your club team in Turkey."

Please man. Just that comment tells me you know nothing about the kid.

[futbolmonkey]

Squid. As far as I know, there is no specific rule against "head-butting." I believe head-butting falls under "violent conduct."


Head-butting or no head-butting....c'mon, these guys gotta toughen up.
Separate the two, make them shake hands and play on.......!!!?

This cost France and great disrespect to a great, Zidane......glad the referee
totally ignored those two wimps.

[JeremyEritrea]

what about Germany? I am really wondering, cause I was very hopeful in WC 2006 from their attacking play, but this tournament imo was a little bit disappointing for Germany side, maybe Klinsmann-Low difference.

seems Klose, Ballack pass their zenit point, will there be replacements as good them in the coming years?

Last thing, I never understand this Kuranyi and Gomez can play in Germany NT, I would not put them in my club team in Turkey.

I think both Klose and Ballack are done for Germany. I doubt we'll see them in the picture for 2010.

I think Odonkor could develop into a pretty dangerous forward. Kuranyi and Gomez are both quite good, actually, but just didn't show too well in this tournament.

[footyfan1]

Head-butting or no head-butting....c'mon, these guys gotta toughen up.
Separate the two, make them shake hands and play on.......!!!?

This cost France and great disrespect to a great, Zidane......glad the referee
totally ignored those two wimps.



Exactly. Which is why I said on the other thread that Podolski was the aggressor, Silva barely touched him, but yet the desperate Germany fans want a red card.

I think the ref did the right thing.

[Pakalolo]

what about Germany? I am really wondering, cause I was very hopeful in WC 2006 from their attacking play, but this tournament imo was a little bit disappointing for Germany side, maybe Klinsmann-Low difference.

seems Klose, Ballack pass their zenit point, will there be replacements as good them in the coming years?

Last thing, I never understand this Kuranyi and Gomez can play in Germany NT, I would not put them in my club team in Turkey.
Gomez is imo a very promising player, he just disappointed in this EC. but he has potential. Kuranyi is a different story...

but the biggest diffrence compared to Spain today was the midfield. they were completely chanceless against superior players. but my hope, and the hope of most Germans lie on players like Kroos and Marin f.e. I think in the next years there will be several new faces at the German team. I'm not too afraid of the future, but we have to see.

[sinan]

You're wrong on Gomez. He had a crap tourney yes, but take it from someone who watches him week in and week out.

Gomez deserved to be there and deserved the chance he got. He didn't do well, but you'll see him again.

And there's no way in f#cking hell you wouldn't put him on "your club team in Turkey."

Please man. Just that comment tells me you know nothing about the kid.
you are right in the sense that I never saw Gomez except this tournament.

I understand he performed bad, like Luca Toni, though I did not watch Toni games except this tournament, I felt he was a class player, but could not feel same for Gomez.

needless to say my club teams forward player was invited to Brazil NT, and other was the most important I guess in Slovakia NT, he is very young, and I think he will make in a top club in Europe in a few years.

even Gomez is a good player , still I cant say I would put easily to my team.

[Osnator]

In my opinion, Germany neither over- nor underperformed in this tournament. We had a fairly easy draw and took full advantage of it.

Spain, however, was clearly the best team of euro 08 and deserved to win this tournament. That's why I'm not that disappointed of the final's result although I'm a Germany fan (the club-over-country type of fan, though).

So, congrats Spain! Have fun at the confed cup.

[footyfan1]

I think Odonkor could develop into a pretty dangerous forward. Kuranyi and Gomez are both quite good, actually, but just didn't show too well in this tournament.

Trust me, he can't. He played for BVB and begged to leave. When we found out Sevilla was offering 6M, we couldn't believe it.

Odonkor is a seriously one-dimensional player. He can run and cross. That's it. It's just that he does that better than anyone else eligible to play for Germany.

But since Low didn't use him much this tourney, I don't see Odonkor staying in the Germany set-up for long.

[sinan]

I think both Klose and Ballack are done for Germany. I doubt we'll see them in the picture for 2010.

I think Odonkor could develop into a pretty dangerous forward. Kuranyi and Gomez are both quite good, actually, but just didn't show too well in this tournament.
yeah why Odonkor did not play in that tournnament much, I really did not get, why he is not chosen, same for WC 06, he was playing very good, and next match he was reserve again.

[footyfan1]

you are right in the sense that I never saw Gomez except this tournament.

I understand he performed bad, like Luca Toni, though I did not watch Toni games except this tournament, I felt he was a class player, but could not feel same for Gomez.


Trust me, you're wrong. This kid is a class player. He just had a bad tourney.

[footyfan1]

yeah why Odonkor did not play in that tournnament much, I really did not get, why he is not chosen, same for WC 06, he was playing very good, and next match he was reserve again.

See my previous response on this. One-dimensional player.

[JeremyEritrea]

Trust me, he can't. He played for BVB and begged to leave. When we found out Sevilla was offering 6M, we couldn't believe it.

Odonkor is a seriously one-dimensional player. He can run and cross. That's it. It's just that he does that better than anyone else eligible to play for Germany.

But since Low didn't use him much this tourney, I don't see Odonkor staying in the Germany set-up for long.

Does he get much playing time in Spain?

He's at Real Bettis now, isn't he?

[sinan]

See my previous response on this. One-dimensional player.
I am not sure what do u mean by 1 d player, but is not this guy a wing player? so run and cross thats all, what DE was missing in that tournament mostly imo, if they had then header masters like Klose and Ballack would score more i

[JeremyEritrea]

you are right in the sense that I never saw Gomez except this tournament.

I understand he performed bad, like Luca Toni, though I did not watch Toni games except this tournament, I felt he was a class player, but could not feel same for Gomez.

needless to say my club teams forward player was invited to Brazil NT, and other was the most important I guess in Slovakia NT, he is very young, and I think he will make in a top club in Europe in a few years.

even Gomez is a good player , still I cant say I would put easily to my team.
Gomez is one of Stuttgart's best players. And they're not exactly a bad team.