Rosetti's positioning [R]

[Another NH Ref]

Ok, so I'm a geek but I was watching how Rosetti managed the game as much as I was watching the game. I found several times where there were collisions that could easily have become heated that he managed from 30 yards away with just his whistle and that "don't mess with me" look. That certainly flies in the face of what we're taught about "getting there" but damned if it doesn't work for him. The players must truly respect him.

[refereejoe]

He didn't even bother to run over and address the flare up in the second half that resulted in a slight head-butt. He was too far away from the play, failed to call the atrocious shirt-pulling, and then allowed the two players to get in each other's face.

He also gave Ballack way too much leeway with the fouls, only to finally caution him for dissent (along with the Spanish goalkeeper, which cheapened the value of the card).

How the game managed to not go completely out of control is just as surprising as the result in my book. Not a stellar performance by Rosetti -- not horrendous, but definitely not one to commend either.

[Kebbie Gazauzkas]

I agree with you and I wonder whether David Silva should have been shown a red card. The Spaniard was substituted two minutes after the incident. Lehmann handled the ball outside of the penalty box, but the referee didn't see it (though a red would have been very harsh in the circumstances).
At the end of the first half - Casillas appeared to be the peacemaker in the scuffle between Ballack and Puyol, but was cautioned..perhaps unnecessary.

Congrats to all Spanish fans!

[Another NH Ref]

Ok, guys, I expressly did not put anything about results in my post. Now, can we please get the title edited to include "[R]" in the title.

[Hattrix]

The "foul" that occurred in the Spanish box at 90:12 was certainly curious. Perhaps Rosetti had better things to do than officiate Extra Time.

[Ref Flunkie]

The "foul" that occurred in the Spanish box at 90:12 was certainly curious. Perhaps Rosetti had better things to do than officiate Extra Time.

Looked like a foul to me. I agree with refereejoe, it almost looked like he was lazy when it came to managing the players and preventing flair ups. I could not believe he didn't book Ballack for PI during that 1st half. I was not impressed with his performance at all.

[Rufusabc]

I thought the entire crew had an awful game in a big match. Ballack was allowed to run wild for the first 35 minutes of the match, and he was also allowed back onto the pitch with blood streaming down his face, and blood on his shirt. Rosetti failed to play advantage for the
Spanish in a break that could have resulted in something, he called offisde when his AR began to raise his flag but then decided on onside player was going to get to the ball, Rosetti missed the head butt completely (I think it warranted at least a card if not red), they both missed Lehman handling outside the area (by at least a yard). If he is the best Europe has, then this is certainly not a great crop. Not a great tournament for the referees.

[Ref Flunkie]

they both missed Lehman handling outside the area (by at least a yard).

Not sure about this. Looked like he was on the line to me with the awful camera angle that we got.

[nonya]

Did the referee determine the out come of the game? NO
Did the players complain enough to feel as though they didnt get a fair game? NO
Was there any missed offside calls? NO
Was it a good match for the players and fans alike? YES


Stop complaining, he did a fine job. The entire crew had a horrible game, give me a break. There was no handball outside of the box, no one got into a fight. The referee can not stop every single incident, if someone wants to head butt, they are going to head butt. He was 30 yards away because if you watched the build up to the play, it was a string of couple of long passes before hand.

Give me a break.

[Ref Flunkie]

Did the referee determine the out come of the game? NO
Did the players complain enough to feel as though they didnt get a fair game? NO
Was there any missed offside calls? NO
Was it a good match for the players and fans alike? YES


Stop complaining, he did a fine job. The entire crew had a horrible game, give me a break. There was no handball outside of the box, no one got into a fight. The referee can not stop every single incident, if someone wants to head butt, they are going to head butt. He was 30 yards away because if you watched the build up to the play, it was a string of couple of long passes before hand.

Give me a break.

Guess you were watching a different game then me.

[Rufusabc]

I'm sorry...he let Ballack play out of his mind for the first portion of the game. At least 4 fouls, and two of them were cardable.

Missing the head butt is inexcusable at that level. There are three officials watching the match. None of them saw it? The other day we had an AR reverse a yellow card that would have turned red, but today no one sees a head butt?

C'mon. That game was not well officiated. Lot's of cheap late fouls that went unpunished. If he's the best, there's a ton of room for improvement.

[Tarheel Ref]

Not sure about this. Looked like he was on the line to me with the awful camera angle that we got.


I agree...good play then I felt I was backed up on the replay...of course that announcer still said it was outside... :confused:

[Alberto]

I thought the entire crew had an awful game in a big match. Ballack was allowed to run wild for the first 35 minutes of the match, and he was also allowed back onto the pitch with blood streaming down his face, and blood on his shirt. Rosetti failed to play advantage for the
Spanish in a break that could have resulted in something, he called offisde when his AR began to raise his flag but then decided on onside player was going to get to the ball, Rosetti missed the head butt completely (I think it warranted at least a card if not red), they both missed Lehman handling outside the area (by at least a yard). If he is the best Europe has, then this is certainly not a great crop. Not a great tournament for the referees.

Ballack was out of control and should have been cautioned much earlier.

The blood issue was comical in that Ballack was allowed to play for a time following the contact and when sent off the pitch for medical attention, he was standing ready to return almost immediately. If not for the fourth official that instructed the trainers to clean his neck, Ballack would have been back on the field in direct contradiction to the referee's and the instructions in the LOTG. The German trainer either does not understand the rules on blood or tried to pull a fast one on the officials.

Agreed 100 percent on the advantage. Not only that, but by not playing the advantage it lead to a needless caution against Casillas for arguing that Ballack was getting away with murder. Having watched Casillas play I know he was arguing in a reasonable tone. This guy is cool, level headed and cerebral. Rossetti should have realized the caution was warranted on Ballack much earlier.

Yes the offside in the second half was a bad decision. The AR should have waited for involvement instead of raising the flag.

The head butt had to be recognized by the referee. He chose to ignore it. Podloski baited the Spanish player and the contact was minimal. Either caution both players, or better speak to both away from the other players admonish them, have them shake hands and quickly restart play.

The Lehman handball was an easy call and should have resulted in a freekick for Spain and a caution to Lehman.

I would also like comments on Lehman lifting his leg in the air during Torres goal. Was that worthy of a caution or was it accidental?

[colins1993]

Did the referee determine the out come of the game? NO
Did the players complain enough to feel as though they didnt get a fair game? NO
Was there any missed offside calls? NO
Was it a good match for the players and fans alike? YES


Stop complaining, he did a fine job. The entire crew had a horrible game, give me a break. There was no handball outside of the box, no one got into a fight. The referee can not stop every single incident, if someone wants to head butt, they are going to head butt. He was 30 yards away because if you watched the build up to the play, it was a string of couple of long passes before hand.

Give me a break.

AGREED.


Rosetti and his crew:
Perfect no.
Human yes.

Trial by TV continues here I see.

[Ref Flunkie]

The head butt had to be recognized by the referee. He chose to ignore it. Podloski baited the Spanish player and the contact was minimal. Either caution both players, or better speak to both away from the other players admonish them, have them shake hands and quickly restart play.

The Lehman handball was an easy call and should have resulted in a freekick for Spain and a caution to Lehman.


I agree with your head butt assessment....my guess was that he saw it too, but thought "Hey, Podloski was asking for it by sticking his face into the Spanish player's face".

I'm amazed people can see the same replay and come to drastically different conclusions (Lehman non-handling), especially on something that is a simple inside-outside call.

[nonya]

This is the problem with americans watching soccer. We take things in the law book so literarly that we forget how the game is being played around the world. There are so many things at that level that is not called and is understood by the players and is completely acceptable. Talk about nit picking, at the level that game is moving so fast and at such an intensity. The AR should have kept his flag down, heck no. The man was clearly offside, clearly receiving the ball, and clearly moving towards goal. Good call. The handball was an easy call, come on. Right on the line, at that level you aren't going to call it, if you do, guaranteed you wont work another game like that again. At that point, your letting the officials determine the game and that's not good for the game. Plus in my view his arm was down at his side, and he jumped to the ball, you could even argue that it wasn't an intentional movement of his arm to the ball.

[Kqql]

Oh please.................he did a good job.


The better team won.............

[Iforgotwhat8wasfor]

Lehman sticking his leg up on Torres was a desperate attempt to deflect the ball.

The head butt wasn't really an escalation over the provocation.

I didn't care for the Casillas card, but the yellow on Ballack forced him to change his play, while it had no effect on Casillas.

If you are talking about the Gomez foul in the PA, jeesh, nothing curious about it at all.

Both teams were serious about the match, so there wasn't that much need for cards.

[nonya]

I am surprised that no one mentioned the ball was still rolling on one of the last german goal kick. Clearly it was still moving. The AR should have put his flag up, the other AR should have mirrored him to get the attention of the referee, the 4th should of fired his flare gun up in the air to signal an improper taking of the kick, they should have brought the ball back and made the keeper rekick it, after the horrible ESPN announcers comment for 10 minutes about why they cant understand why the referee to allow such a blatant violation of the laws. Heck EUFA should have brought the 5th official in to replace the referee who needs to turn his FIFA badge because he allowed play to continue.

I cant believe that happened, the referee crew was horrible and should never do a game of soccer again. You all will someday make great assessors.

[Alberto]

This is the problem with americans watching soccer. We take things in the law book so literarly that we forget how the game is being played around the world. There are so many things at that level that is not called and is understood by the players and is completely acceptable. Talk about nit picking, at the level that game is moving so fast and at such an intensity. The AR should have kept his flag down, heck no. The man was clearly offside, clearly receiving the ball, and clearly moving towards goal. Good call. The handball was an easy call, come on. Right on the line, at that level you aren't going to call it, if you do, guaranteed you wont work another game like that again. At that point, your letting the officials determine the game and that's not good for the game. Plus in my view his arm was down at his side, and he jumped to the ball, you could even argue that it wasn't an intentional movement of his arm to the ball.

This isn't nit picking. Lehman was under pressure and got away with an obvious hand ball outside the box. It was cheating of the highest order. It is what we as referees strive to catch. This was not a gotcha call. This was not the keeper punting the ball under no pressure and releasing the ball with his hands outside the penalty area. It was a desperate attempt by the keeper to get out of a bad situation. How the AR or referee did not see that was terrible. If I can see it clearly on TV from the field camera view, they certainly can see it from their position much closer to play. What happens if Germany scores and wins on penalty kicks or in extra time. Watch the replay and tell me Lehman doesn't cradle the ball by the position of his arm.

AR should have kept his flag down because the player in the offside position made no attempt to play the ball. Another Spanish player in an on side position made the run. We see this all the time. You know the criteria, the player in the offside position must be actively involved in play or gains an advantage from his offside position. Was that the case in the incident? I do not believe so.