Germany - Turkey [R]

[blackjack]

Mr. Busacca seems to be having a good game so far. I am surprised that he missed what was a very clear foul against Lahm that may well have been in the area.

He's had an excellent match so far aside from that.

[code1390]

The replay showed the contact first occured outside of the area. The question is, did the contact continue into the penalty area.

[PVancouver]

It occurred at 50:36.

Definitely a foul.

Outside the area (but close).

[seadondo]

Yah, so it's where the contact occurs, not where the player rest of the player might be, right? For example, in the case of the (not called) foul on Lahm, his back leg got hit while outside the box, but the rest of his body was inside the box. Where is the free kick given?

[code1390]

Yah, so it's where the contact occurs, not where the player rest of the player might be, right? For example, in the case of the (not called) foul on Lahm, his back leg got hit while outside the box, but the rest of his body was inside the box. Where is the free kick given?

The contact first occurred outside the PA when he hit Lahm around the ankle area. The question is, did the contact continue into the PA. If it did, then it was a penalty. Its too close to call. But it was definitely a foul.

[campbed]

Foul, just outside the box.

At least there is consistency. The team had a non-call on a foul against Germany just inside the box with a very obvious shirt pull of the Turkey player.

[Ref Flunkie]

The contact first occurred outside the PA when he hit Lahm around the ankle area. The question is, did the contact continue into the PA. If it did, then it was a penalty. Its too close to call. But it was definitely a foul.

This applies more to a hold then a trip. Trips are quick contacts and that is it. Foul outside the area. I am amazed he did not call it...a clear foul.

I thought the Turkey one was less obvious. Yes there was a shirt pull, but to me it looked like it was released, and then a second later the attacker flops down.

[Alberto]

Well it was kind of difficult to make a full appraisal of the match considering the loss of tv signal world wide for 20-30 minutes of the second half. I don't know what happened, but UEFA and their TV sponsor have a lot of explaining to do. It was absolutely pitiful.
Also, because ESPN has guys in a studio in Bristol and not in Basel, you can't even receive an audio description of the match. Terrible coverage by all and completely unacceptable.

[PVancouver]

It was a bolt of lighting in Basel.

The match was shown beginning in the 65th minute.

Derek Rae assured us that "you haven't missed anything at all" except for one solved attack from Klose. He also reported that "there was a bolt of lighting" and that this affected all outgoing transmission, not just the US feed.

[superdave]

Thor the God of Thunder hates soccer.

[code1390]

The world wide TV signal was coming from Vienna, not Basel. Thats where the lightning was.

[PVancouver]

So where were Rae and Gray, because they obviously weren't at the game?

[code1390]

So where were Rae and Gray, because they obviously weren't at the game?

Bristol, CT at ESPN studios.

[Ref Flunkie]

The world wide TV signal was coming from Vienna, not Basel. Thats where the lightning was.

Yeah I was thinking...if there was a bolt of lightning in Basel, would they not have suspended the match?

[colins1993]

The contact first occurred outside the PA when he hit Lahm around the ankle area. The question is, did the contact continue into the PA. If it did, then it was a penalty. Its too close to call. But it was definitely a foul.

No doubt about it being a foul. Looked to me like Lahm was straddeling the line with one foot inside the area and the other outside when the major contact occurred.

It also appeared to me that this non-call by Busacca affected his performance for the balance of the match. He appeared less confident in his body language.

[Rufusabc]

A couple of things on the TV angle....The European TV folks are furious with the organizers because of the way the feeds were planned. Only the international feed was allowed to be used, and no supplemental feeds coming from the game site were approved. That is unlike the Olympics where the host country [provides a world side feed, but other broadcasters can do supplemental feeds with supplemental camera postions, etc. NBC has been broadcasting the Olympics for years like that. It wasn't a lightning strike that disrupted the feed, but a torrential rainstorm that played havoc with the feeds much like what customers of Direct TV experience in this country during heavy rainstorms. I'm very surprised that UEFA did not have back ups for their backups in this case.

ESPN has for years done all of their international matches from Bristol. Likewise, Fox Soccer Channel does the great majority of their games from Los Angeles. (except the Prem, where they take a feed from overseas.) ESPN was on site for MOST if not ALL of WC 2006 but my memeory is failing me if it was truly all games.

However much we complain about cable and other broadcasters, we are extremely fortunate to be able to see as much football as we do in this country. As many of you know, we see more live Prem games than are shown in England, and ESPN (while driving us batty) has to be given credit for putting on this tournament for free. I think the last Euro was a pay per view event.

[FIFARay007]

What I didn't understand about the feeds was that the feed showing the fans gathered outside at the fan zones was fine. And the fans were obviously watching on a big screen, so why couldn't they have turned the cameras around to the big screen? A crappy feed woulda been better than no feed.

[Rufusabc]

Those camera postions are fixed unmanned cameras and probably were not equipped to be remotely panned or tilted. The shot, as I remember, was static and did not change. I would hate to be the execuative in charge of the production at UEFA. I'm sure the country's broadcasters are going to be looking for something in return for that outage.

[FIFARay007]

Those camera postions are fixed unmanned cameras and probably were not equipped to be remotely panned or tilted. The shot, as I remember, was static and did not change. I would hate to be the execuative in charge of the production at UEFA. I'm sure the country's broadcasters are going to be looking for something in return for that outage.

They might have been unmapped, but i do remember it panning across the crowd... guess it just couldn't pan around enough.

Honestly I would have preferred for the feed to pick back up where the game left off, rather than live. Would have been nice to see the whole build up to all 3 goals...

[Tarheel Ref]

So where were Rae and Gray, because they obviously weren't at the game?

In my perfect world...someplace without a mic.....