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Dage
26 Jun 2008, 07:57 AM
What a brown- nose interview. You seriously believe that? http://forum.ingame.de/broodwar/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

Lahmfan
26 Jun 2008, 11:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0do5xlE9C_A

Love it! :)

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 11:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0do5xlE9C_A

Love it! :)
:rolleyes: So OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD. That was a EURO2004 ad from BBC or something. Funny how it was labeled Italy training when we don't have any black guys. lol

uclacarlos
26 Jun 2008, 11:43 AM
Italian came before Spanish though. So it could be the other way around in some instances.
:rolleyes:

Any borrowing from one language to the other would come through mass contact btw the languages. Given the Aragones/Spanish presence in southern Italy, the Italian dialects are more likely to have assimilated words than vice versa.

If I can understand Spanish, I think you could understand Italian...:D
I think it's harder for hispanophones to understand Italian than vice versa, mainly b/c of the singular-plural thing. In Spanish, you add an s or es, like many languages, unlike Italian.

Lahmfan
26 Jun 2008, 11:57 AM
:rolleyes: So OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD. That was a EURO2004 ad from BBC or something. Funny how it was labeled Italy training when we don't have any black guys. lol
*shakes head*

Oscar
26 Jun 2008, 04:39 PM
You didn't stop the best offense in the tournament you know, and were lucky Cassillas played great. I would be surprised if the Russians didn't score, it's going to be about who scores more.

Or not :)

I'm still surprised at our defense. Valencia should sell Marchena after this tournament, he's never played as well as he's doing now. :D

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 06:08 PM
:rolleyes:

Any borrowing from one language to the other would come through mass contact btw the languages. Given the Aragones/Spanish presence in southern Italy, the Italian dialects are more likely to have assimilated words than vice versa.


I think it's harder for hispanophones to understand Italian than vice versa, mainly b/c of the singular-plural thing. In Spanish, you add an s or es, like many languages, unlike Italian.

Italian stemmed from Latin, then came Spanish. Not sure if it stemmed from Italian. Don't roll your eyes unless you know the history of languages. Jack posted a chart that shows this.

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 06:10 PM
*shakes head*
??? We don't have any black players on our NT? What the hell are you shaking your head for? In that video ad, titled by the youtube user Italian Training, has one or two black players. I know it's a joke, but it's not a very accurate joke. :p

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 06:10 PM
Or not :)

I'm still surprised at our defense. Valencia should sell Marchena after this tournament, he's never played as well as he's doing now. :D
The defense was outstanding today. Congrats to Spain and I hope you win the final. ;)

J.C.80
26 Jun 2008, 06:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0do5xlE9C_A

Love it! :)
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME LOL
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXF3_bxDHo LOL X2
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=8rezGZzrqJI LOL X3

Better than Louganis! :)

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 06:38 PM
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME LOL
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXF3_bxDHo LOL X2
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=8rezGZzrqJI LOL X3

Better than Louganis! :)
If you want to see more German diving and other stuff, search "Dirty Rotten Scandals" on youtube. Good stuff.

Lahmfan
26 Jun 2008, 07:27 PM
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7Y33VteME LOL
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXF3_bxDHo LOL X2
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=8rezGZzrqJI LOL X3

Better than Louganis! :)
which one is the diving ? :confused: :o
or u had the wrong links somehow?

J.C.80
26 Jun 2008, 08:56 PM
which one is the diving ? :confused: :o
or u had the wrong links somehow?

The funny thing is that even Völler and Klinsmann admitted their faults :D

Do you want more from that world cup? The dive against Van Breukelen? The penalty against Czechoslovakia?

uclacarlos
26 Jun 2008, 09:37 PM
Italian stemmed from Latin, then came Spanish. Not sure if it stemmed from Italian.
If you're not sure... do you really think you should be opining about contagion of different languages in neighboring languages?

Don't roll your eyes unless you know the history of languages.
Gotcha.

Sincerely,
Dr. Uclacarlos
PhD Hispanic Languages and Literature

Albirrojo
26 Jun 2008, 09:37 PM
Yes, you are very kind: I largely have worked in Castilian Spanish in business and with friends.

I like watching the Passion of Christ movie because bits of it, are in Latin: to an Italian speaker, the Latin really must seem about the same. I know, I know, Latin has more difficult conjugations they say, even the subjects or adverbs get conjugated do they say?

I saw the other day someone was talking about the game that was Sunday: Cain and Abel the person said.

French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian, of course, Italian and other languages are the Romance (NeoLatin) Languages, they take from Latin but they also have their own unique qualities, I am not a historian but I always thought that the native language (of say Spain for example) and Latin sort of merged during the days of the Roman Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages

In fact, this wikipedia article in a longer way, says that, like in Gladiator, the Roman Empire conquered all those places, the language Latin went and the languages kind of merged together.

I guess, though, Germanic, Saxon, English, whatever they call those languages, didn't quite meld together with Latin, but some of the others did.

It's late now to make comparisons, but whether it's reading www.lequipe.fr or www.gazzetta.it , it isn't hard to get an impression of what they are talking about. The Gauls, the French language, seemed complex to me, but it is mostly just a matter of practicing.

laudrup
26 Jun 2008, 10:24 PM
e domani anche voi spagnoli direte addio lo lo lo lo... lo lo lo lo lo lo lo

Va a ser que no.

FNU
26 Jun 2008, 10:36 PM
If you're not sure... do you really think you should be opining about contagion of different languages in neighboring languages?


Gotcha.

Sincerely,
Dr. Uclacarlos
PhD Hispanic Languages and Literature
All I said was Italian came before Spanish. FACT. Please show me a contradiction. Spanish could have stemmed from Italian, but not the other way around. FACT.

Cris 09
26 Jun 2008, 11:09 PM
This has become the "who pwnes who" in Nerdsville.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/Javelin09/Nerds.jpg

uclacarlos
26 Jun 2008, 11:33 PM
All I said was Italian came before Spanish. FACT. Please show me a contradiction.
:rolleyes:

Sweetie: Catalan separated from vulgar Latin before Florentine did. Surely you recognize the fact that an Iberian language spoken and written in the kingdoms incorporated by the Spanish state -- which gained much of its wealth and political power from Barcelona -- would have a much larger impact on the growth and spread of Castillian.

It really didn't, btw. But it certainly had more of an influence than the Florentine dialect, which wasn't adopted by the rest of Italy until the founding of the Italian state in the mid-19th century.

Spanish could have stemmed from Italian, but not the other way around. FACT.
You're talking out of your ass.

You have no idea what you're talking about. No Italian city-state held dominion over any region of the Iberian peninsula. Castillian and all the dialects/languages of the peninsula grew independent of Florence. The fact that you're insisting that Florence had a linguistic presence in Spain is beyond believe in its ignorance.

Just shut the f**k up already.

sidspaceman
27 Jun 2008, 01:16 AM
This has become the "who pwnes who" in Nerdsville.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff140/Javelin09/Nerds.jpg

Exactly.

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